Need opinions for next edh general!
Posted on May 10, 2017, 10:33 p.m. by frwtr1968
Alright, so I need help for my next commander choice. my new playgroup as I recently moved is rather competitive, running breya, along with my best friend running decks like maelstrom, yidris.
I have my first deck with shirei, which turned into a tempo stax deck. of course, as going stax, people don't entirely enjoy it. my second deck I'm working is this casual karn deck.
anyways, basically need help choosing a next commander that 1. doesn't need consistent expensive cards, 2. isn't a stax deck, anything but stax.
a couple cards that caught my eye was homura, prossh, animar, karador, ghave, but I'm definitely open to anyones opinion on what they would recommend "competitively".
Captain Sisay is powerful, but sort of ends up only as good as how much money you pump in.
A favourite of mine is Rakdos, Lord of Riots. Not as good as lot of other commanders, but certainly very fun to play with and against (eldrazi titans! For free! Wheeeee!)
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May 10, 2017 11:02 p.m.
Although I don't play against many tier 1 lists, here are my thoughts:
Food Chain prossh or tazri are good decks (currently run a prossh deck and am building a tazri).
Thrasios, Triton Hero with just about any other partner is powerful as he a card advantage/mana ramp engine.
Animar is a strong creature based commander. Never tried the deck but have played against multiple builds.
Ghave is one of my favorite. My current deck has more a counters matter theme, but he can be built very competitively.
Marath, meren, and mizzix are other commanders I run that can be highly competitive. Miz can be built relatively cheap.
My Atraxa deck is the deck my playgroup doesn't approve of as possible turn one locks are frowned on. But it is my most expensive deck.
May 10, 2017 11:08 p.m.
I made a mizzix deck, but I feel like the storm control just seems a little lack luster for me.
Thrasios and partner concept definitely seemed intriguing to me, but I find its either people praising the idea, or people ready to throw punches and downright hate the idea. is there any partner to Thrasios that you'd recommend?
May 10, 2017 11:12 p.m.
Thrasios, Triton Hero is a good card, but he isn't commander material, in my opinion, even with partner. His ability barely functions as a mana ramp, with a high chance you won't even draw the land, and even if you do, 4 mana is a shit load for a single land. And if you're after him for card advantage? Take a look at Arcanis the Omnipotent. There's all that card advantage you'll every need, and then some. And then there's the fact that all the other partner heroes are either terrible (Silas Renn, Seeker Adept) or require a deck to be built around them (Akiri, Line-Slinger).
May 11, 2017 1:48 a.m.
Geralf_Cecani Thrasios is an oulet for infinite mana combos and costs only 2 to cast, which is great to have available at all times. I haven't seen anyone play this commander but it's surely great for a lot of combo decks...and in blue/green there are a huge lot of infinite mana combos, for example Grim Monolith/Power Artifact or Staff of Domination with something like Priest of Titania or (even colorless) Metalworker, Rings of Brighthearth and Basalt Monolith which are both tutorable with Trophy Mage...all the stupid tricks with Peregrine Drake and Palinchron...there's really a lot in these colours to abuse Thrasios.
Also, Silas Renn, Seeker Adept is probably one of the best partner commanders besides Bruse Tarl, Boorish Herder (I personally like the combination of both in my aggro stax Workshop Party). You can even mess with Lion's Eye Diamond, Goblin Welder, Daretti, Scrap Savant and stuff like Su-Chi, Dack Fayden to make absolutely broken plays. Of course this requires a higher budget, because the artifact power alone is usually not cheap.
May 11, 2017 4:50 a.m.
Thrasios is a tier one or two commander in competitive circles. Drops early, and is a mana sink that wins you the game as soon as you get infinite mana as you just draw your deck. Arcanis is tier 3 due to high casting cost, but I do currently run a deck with him as commander.
For cost saving on mana base, you could do the other simic partner, which is decent tier 2 strategy.
For three color, Silas works to recur your combo pieces, or to grab them if you run a self mill strategy. Also adding black gets you the best tutors, so any of the "/black commanders can work.
For four color, vial smasher is a bomb when you get to refill hand.
May 11, 2017 8:09 a.m.
frwtr1968, how competitive are we talking? Take a look at [List - Multiplayer] EDH Generals by Tier and try to compare the powerlevel you are wanting to those tiers, and then take a look at some of the sample decklists that are provided in the description for inspiration.
May 11, 2017 1:15 p.m.
My Prossh deck has about a 75-80% win-rate, and I'm not even playing Food Chain at this point. My meta is about a 75% so it's strong but a bit battlecruiser-y at times. It's fun to play too, as things dying is a pretty broad concept to build your own character into. Obviously Food Chain takes him up a tier, but depending on the meta may not be necessary.
Ghave also seems like another deck that could be fun and powerful. For me, fun is a mix of winning and good back and forth, strategic game play. "Oops I tripped on this infinite combo" may not fit that for you, and there are no shortage of ways to do that in Ghave.
May 11, 2017 2:42 p.m.
If you are aiming for cheap, the easiest way is to reduce your number of colors to make your land base cheaper.
Voltron generals can be cheap, but get better with cash invested.