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Posted on March 30, 2019, 7:32 p.m. by Nuubi

So, I’m not sure if this is exactly the place to post this but... I’m working on a sort of hydra tribal deck. Rosheen Meanderer is my commander. I’m curious if there are many other cards out there that I could take advantage of her gain 4 mana for X ability that are similar to the hydras. For instance Ivy Elemental . I’ve tried and tried to get a search to work on Magic.wizards.com but I can’t get it to work with X/X. Any suggestions would be appreciated!

Funkydiscogod says... #2

http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Search/Default.aspx?action=advanced&color=+![U]+![W]+![B]&mana=+~[X]&format=+[%22Commander%22]

Something like this

March 30, 2019 7:49 p.m.

hejtmane says... #3

Yes here are some that can work with your commander Endless One , Hangarback Walker , Walking Ballista , Krakilin . Remember her ability will also apply for activated abilities Cinder Elemental Flameblast Dragon and oh this one works really while with the extra mana Steel Hellkite

March 30, 2019 8:09 p.m. Edited.

hejtmane says... #4

Here are some more cards you may want to look at that you can leverage your commander's abilities Orcish Settlers Silklash Spider , Arashi, the Sky Asunder , Tilonalli's Summoner , Gorilla Shaman Waker of the Wilds

March 30, 2019 8:24 p.m.

Gidgetimer says... #5

https://scryfall.com/ has a much better GUI on their advanced search. If you go into advanced you can click and under "Commander"; click "Add Symbol" next to "Mana Cost" and choose "" from the pulldown; and hit enter and return the 131 cards that fit within the deck and have an in their mana cost. This isn't perfect, as it returns cards not legal in commander, in this case 4 "Un"set cards, but you could also go down and add a filter for commander legality. Really the GUI is super intuitive and doesn't require an exact order of clicks like Gatherer does in order to function correctly. You can scroll up and down the advanced search page adding/removing/editing filters in a natural way and it will function fine.

March 30, 2019 8:39 p.m.

multimedia says... #6

Hey, Green Sun's Zenith and Chord of Calling are creatures tutors with X in their mana costs. Comet Storm is a damage spell that can do damage to all your opponents. Kessig Wolf Run is a powerful land with Hydras and it's ability can be used with Rosheen's ramp. Steel Hellkite 's X activation cost can completely wreck an opponent. By Force can destroy 4 target artifacts with just Rosheen's ramp. Wildest Dreams is a recursion spell.

March 30, 2019 8:57 p.m.

Spiderhead says... #7

What do you want this deck to do? There are good creature removal cards in red like Starstorm, Banefire, and Burn from Within that contain X in their cost. Genesis Wave and Chord of Calling and Uncage the Menagerie or Weird Havest May also be good.

March 30, 2019 10:46 p.m.

Nuubi says... #8

Thanks everyone! Appreciate everyone’s input!

March 30, 2019 11:44 p.m.

Nuubi says... #9

Spiderhead, not entirely sure lol. It started out as just an idea to have a tribal hydra deck. It plays alright. Needs better inst/sorcery’s though and some better enchantments. My thought process was to spice it up with a few other creatures Incase someone some how bars me from playing them(can’t remember the card but I know there’s a few out there) so I wouldn’t be totally crippled in that case. I’d like to find some spells that play on it being a tribal deck as well though. I know kind of contradicting, just trying to cover all the bases and make it as functional as possible.

March 31, 2019 12:01 a.m.

shadow63 says... #10

Have you thought about using Animar, Soul of Elements as the general? Gives you access to counter spells and Hydroid Krasis

March 31, 2019 1:28 p.m.

Nuubi says... #11

shadow63 no I haven’t. He’s pretty good and I do like the idea of having access to counters, but just wouldn’t make the hydras and other X mana spells as effective. With Rosheen by turn 5 I can make 7/7 hydras. Sometimes bigger. With animar I wouldn’t get that same value. Even though he makes spells cost one less you’d still want to be paying X, so I’m not sure if that would be all that effective.

April 1, 2019 1:01 p.m.

shadow63 says... #12

Well animar would make the x get plus 1 for every 1 counter on him

April 1, 2019 3:05 p.m.

Nuubi says... #13

shadow63,Really? Doesn’t seem like it would work that way. Seems like it would just pay for the one or two required mana and you would still have to tap lands for the variable part of the cost (X). I mean I’m new to magic, so idk my interpretation could definitely be wrong.

April 1, 2019 4:10 p.m.

Gidgetimer says... #14

When calculating the cost of a spell you take the mana cost of the spell including any variables such as ; plus any additional costs; minus any cost reductions (such as Animar's ability). With 4 mana open and 3 counters on Animar you could cast Endless One for up to 7 counters. Or you could cast it for 3 counters without paying any mana.

April 1, 2019 6:23 p.m.

Nuubi says... #15

Really? I wouldn’t have thought it would have worked that way! Thanks shadow63 for the suggestions. Gidgetimer appreciate your time and knowledge as always! I just may have to pick me up a copy of Animar! Definitely going to have to rework the deck entirely though. Hmmm, decisions, decisions.

April 1, 2019 7:09 p.m.

Lanzo493 says... #16

Shaman of Forgotten Ways , Somberwald Sage , and Karametra's Acolyte all tap for a lot of mana. In addition, you also have Gyre Engineer .

April 1, 2019 8:16 p.m.

shadow63 says... #17

Gyre Sage is also really good for mana especially if you make a +1/+1 sub theme

April 1, 2019 8:38 p.m.

Nuubi says... #18

How about card draw for red or green? Haveing trouble with getting card draw.

April 2, 2019 6:14 a.m.

shadow63 says... #19

Harmonize and Guardian Project both come to mind. I also have always liked Mind's Eye and Staff of Nin depending on the build Greater Good is incredible

April 2, 2019 7:53 a.m.

Nuubi says... #20

Nice, that staff of nin seems pretty darn good! Probably draw some hate though lol. Definitely going to have to grab a minds eye and guardian project. Those are all pretty good! Harmonize seems a little expensive though in comparison.

April 2, 2019 9:39 a.m.

Gidgetimer says... #21

If you are focussed on making large creatures, Garruk, Primal Hunter can be good card draw.

April 2, 2019 3:55 p.m.

Nuubi says... #22

Hadn’t thought of him. He would be good. Been trying to find A planeswalker that fit in well.

April 2, 2019 4:25 p.m.

Lanzo493 says... #23

April 2, 2019 5:12 p.m.

hejtmane says... #24

I also really like Lifecrafter's Bestiary scry before upkeep draw and if you play a creature you can pay 1 green mana and draw a card.

Not a draw but great for land fetch Sword of the Animist

if you are nut running planeswalkers The Immortal Sun hey whats not to like extra draw +1/1 to all your creatures things cost 1 less and planeswalkers hate you

April 2, 2019 7:39 p.m.

Nuubi says... #25

hejtmane the 35 dollar part lol

April 3, 2019 12:51 p.m.

sub780lime says... #26

Green has so many cheap X cards. Gatherer is your friend in this case. Should be easy to find a plethora of options.

April 3, 2019 5:37 p.m.

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