My deck DROPPED from 87% to 20% Competitive. Any way to fix this?

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Posted on Sept. 12, 2017, 1:25 p.m. by BMHKain

5cc Cromat's Illusionary Walkers from beyond...

Apparently, the new Legendary Rule applies to ALL planeswalker cards; from the Lorwyn 5 to IXALAN. This actually hurts the Superfriends deck more than makes it better.

Ridiculous still, I'm planning to update it for IXALAN as well as my other deck I'm working on (Bird Tribal.).

But, I want some help on this. How do you make a 20% competitive deck competitive enough for most things? I was at 87%, and that was when I found out about the mistake. It's popular enough, so, it's not like Bird Tribal where it's at 100% for no reason...

Any ideas, please?

abby315 says... #2

Don't worry about the competitive meter for a bit! We're still messing with the algorithm and it's mostly bugged ATM. Sorry about that :(

But why do you feel the new rule hurts superfriends? For the most part it helps planeswalkers be searchable, and you can now have more than one named PW on the field without having to sacrifice to the "unique" rule--I can't see a downside!

September 12, 2017 1:29 p.m.

Qolorful says... #3

Yeah the ixalan rule definitely helps superfriends. There really is no downside to it

September 12, 2017 2:44 p.m.

The Competitiveness meter is a bit wonky and I don't trust it. I have a "deck" that's just a huge list of lands I use as a database, some 500+ land cards in one deck, and it calls it 100% competitive. Right.

Also I'm curious how the Ixalan ruling hurts superfriends. I haven't actually played the archetype before, but... what downside is there? With planeswalkers being Legendary, you can have multiple different Jaces out at the same time, etc. The only downside I can think of is if there's some reason to intentionally kill your own planeswalker by playing another of its type.

September 12, 2017 4:15 p.m.

BMHKain says... #5

Oh. Well, according to one page, all Walkers are now Legendary anyway, so if that's good, tell me how please (Samut, the Tested for instance wasn't legendary before, but now is thanks to a demonstration of an early build of MTG: ARENA.). I actually have ALOT of suggestions for my Walker Deck, & I must have goofed heavily; & I apologize for that.

Though it seems that more popular decks, ranging from the 4 digit views seem to have a lot better chance for an accurate percentage; Might be wrong though...

Maybe the Planeswalker Types are irrelevant now, & I goofed there as a result... Rebuilding the deck when I can (I also have a Bird Tribal Deck in the works...)...

September 12, 2017 5:14 p.m.

You're correct, Planeswalker Types are irrelevant now. They are Legendary now because they're getting ride of the Planewalker Uniqueness Rule, which was the rule that said you could only have one PW of a given PW type. So now you can control Jace Beleren and Jace, the Mind Sculptor at the same time, as an example.

September 12, 2017 7:58 p.m.

Qolorful says... #7

Well they are still applicable in the sense of rules that require you to control a planeswalker. Such as Gideon of the Trials emblem, and Dark Intimations

September 12, 2017 8:01 p.m.

You are correct Qolorful, I failed to mention that. Planeswalker type are not irrelevant, but they're no longer important in regards to controlling multiples of a given Planewalker, as the Planeswalker Uniqueness Rule is going away.

September 12, 2017 8:03 p.m.

BMHKain says... #9

OK. I think I fully understand the grasp of things... I'll let someone close this; It MUST have been a huge waste, and did worse on my already spotty record. XP

September 12, 2017 8:12 p.m.

Qolorful says... #10

It's all good, it's important to learn these types of thing even at the expense of risking looking bad. I ask questions I should know the answer to all the time (I'm looking at you, stack). I still don't fully understand how it all works tbh. People are forgiving, it'll just be a good learning experience

September 12, 2017 8:37 p.m.

BMHKain says... #11

(Saitama: OK...)

After revising the list, it seems to have a worse percentage than before. Just; take careful precautions when working on the meter system, ok? Thanks in advance.

September 13, 2017 11:09 a.m.

Catalog9000 says... #12

Has anybody noticed that with the stripping of the PU rule, you can now flood the board with Indestructible Gideons? Lol

September 15, 2017 2:01 p.m.

Qolorful says... #13

Yes decks already exist that abuse that, specifically in conjunction with Gideon of the Trials

September 15, 2017 2:07 p.m.

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