I wonder if Arcane-Related cards are truly needed...

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Posted on Jan. 25, 2019, 10:58 p.m. by BMHKain

O-Kagachi declares Multiversal Kami War II on us!

Commander / EDH* BMHKain


While one would run as the Identity for a Spirit Tribal Deck, I actually wanted to see how good O-Kagachi, Vengeful Kami as a Tribe Leader. Anyway, just removed the need for the Arcane Spells, & found that Intruder Alarm actually seems better than I thought. They'll be added. The only other help I need now is to make some cuts for a Jhoira of the Ghitu Chaos Deck(The Chaos Deck that's not based on Coin-Flips; I'll update them when I'm done w/ all the decks). Besides this, I'll handle stuff still being made from there. If anyone has any opinions on this, let me know, I mean, Karador, Ghost Chieftain is an incredible CMDR back then, & is in already...

Thanks again thus far! Though I now feel like changing the topic name for the rest of what is needed... Should I? It's no longer about the Arcane/ Cryptic Gateway thing that's already resolved...

bushido_man96 says... #2

Intruder Alarm would play nicely with Cryptic Gateway . Run Beast Whisperer along with it, and you'll draw cards and get an engine going.

January 26, 2019 5:07 p.m.

BMHKain says... #3

@bushido_man96: 0_o'

Didn't think of that... Shaving multiple slots needed for just that.


Also, though Primordial Sage has optional draw, & is a Spirit, I have at least one Non-Spirit Creature Support anyways. Might have to make use of this. Thanks for the ideas though! Doubles the fact that O-Kagachi, Vengeful Kami requires one to attack after being attacked. You rock. ^_^

January 26, 2019 6:16 p.m.

bushido_man96 says... #4

I'm glad I was able to help! Theme decks can be fun, but in order to make a theme deck fun to play, its got to be consistent, as well as on theme. Don't worry about running something off-theme in order to maintain that consistency. After all, if your favorite deck doesn't work smoothly, then it won't be fun to play, and you'll be reluctant to play your favorite deck....and that's just not right.

January 26, 2019 8:54 p.m.

BMHKain says... #5

Still at the ~8 cards over mark, & I want this Spirit Tribal deck to somehow be good enough in actual play... I know the meter is crap, but I still can't get over such a thing...

What would you guys suggest/cut? Is Cryptolith Rite really that bad, or is Karmic Guide worth no use here?

I'd like your thoughts, please.

January 29, 2019 12:57 p.m.

bushido_man96 says... #6

Cryptolith Rite is a good mana fixer/ramp card, but you might need more ramp to go to. I'd also recommend running Zendikar Resurgent along with Mirrari's Wake. Aura Shards is a good card, too.

I'd cut Abrade and Vampiric Tutor . Abrade isn't that great, and there are better options you are already running. I think you could cut Vampiric Tutor as well. Yeah, its nice to tutor, but is there one thing you absolutely have to go get to make the deck work? I like tutors, but I don't know if its what you are looking to do here. You can cut both Arcane Adaptation and Conspiracy . You've only got a few creatures that aren't spirits already, and using two slots to make them not spirits isn't really worth it, and you've got Karmic Guide which could get them back into play if they die because they aren't buffed by your lords. You've got a decent amount of beef in your deck, so you might look at Door of Destinies and Coat of Arms . Are they just win-more cards? If you find you don't have trouble dealing damage and knocking out opponents, then you could probably scrap them, too, to make space. But play it out, and see for yourself. I know those are fun cards to cram into tribal decks, but they don't really need to go into every tribal deck. Sensei's Divining Top could probably go, too? I get that its a great EDH card, but you could probably live without it if you're needing to make room.

What I do see is a lack of card draw. You've got Rhystic Study and Beast Whisperer , which is good, but not much else. Cards like Shamanic Revelation and Rishkar's Expertise are good draw spells, and Rishkar's Expertise will let you likely drop a fatty you've just drawn. Black has great card draw options, like Greed and Phyrexian Arena to name a few. Kami of the Crescent Moon is good card draw and a spirit, which fits your theme nicely. There's also the aforementioned Zendikar Resurgent , which provides both card draw and mana ramp.

I hope I was able to help with a few cuts, at least.

January 29, 2019 10:41 p.m.

BMHKain says... #7

@bushido_man96: Damn... & I was going to abandon this project...


Hmph. I'll have to keep onto this project. That said, I was working on compleating 2 other decklists, but I'll have to thank you later...

Great ideas though!

February 1, 2019 10:20 a.m.

BMHKain says... #8

All added. Now what 7 to cut... Any suggestions...?

February 2, 2019 7:04 p.m.

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