I know I made something like this (Chaos EDH Help)

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Posted on Jan. 8, 2019, 10:24 a.m. by BMHKain

...But instead of Coin Flips, I wanted to use true Chaos Themed Catds for this Deck Variant. I know this isn't advisable, but I want your thoughts:

1: What are your thoughts on this deck?

2.1: If you like it, how would you make it better? Chaos can be crazy, & I have some Maybeboard Stuff already.

2.2: If you hate it, should I remove this, & keep the original version of this deck? If not, what should be replaced?

3: How would you make it better while keeping the true Chaos theme in mind?

4: Can you think of a better Commander focusing on Chaos instead?

Also, I need some help on two decks in mind; which include:

Taysir's Challenge: No Creature Superfriends

Commander / EDH* BMHKain


(I wanted this to be a collaborative effort, but I'm the only one working on this.)

(One thread confirmed some cuts, so this is actually less than the 100 target now.)

Note: since I can't find a good theme for a Vorthos Deck, I'd also like some suggestions, 4Lark style. & yes, I'll get to the descriptions soon enough...

Thanks for the help, if any...

Abaques says... #2

I love a good chaos deck and I really like some of your card choices, but it does seem like you're going in a few different directions at the same time. You seem to have a mix of wheel effects (Wheel of Fate, group hug (Mana Cache), group slug (War's Toll) and general chaos (Teferi's Realm) going on. I think I would try to focus more on one or two of those themes.

I think with any chaos deck one of your key decisions you have to make is if you even want a win condition. I have a chaos deck (Chaotic Neutral Goats) where the where the best win condition is getting lucky with Scrambleverse, but I don't play that deck to win, I play to create crazy game states and I consider it a 'win' if the game state gets so crazy that everyone agrees to call a draw. I also only play that deck when everyone at the table wants that kind of game.

I think good adds for your deck might be:

Perplexing Chimera - It makes everyone have to think twice about every spell they cast.

Grip of Chaos - Targeted removal? Hah!

Scrambleverse - This can actually be a win-con if you're lucky enough!

Thieves' Auction - A fun way to balance out everyone's board states.

Vedalken Orrery and Leyline of Anticipation - Being able to drop the chaos unexpectedly is really great.

If you're looking for a different commander and you'd like to stay Izzet I'd recommend Jhoira of the Ghitu to power out some of those expensive spells earlier.

Also, thanks for sharing your deck! I really like Custody Battle but I'd never seen it before!

January 8, 2019 11:53 p.m.

BMHKain says... #3

@Abaques: Hmm... well, I guess it's time I put that Jhoira I got from a Duel Deck set to good use... I guess I could drop the Wheels (Though this will destroy any good use of Molten Psyche.), & Group Hug (I wish I had Zedruu the Greathearted, she was one of the best Legends I've ever seen for a high degree of options one can choose from...). Based on this, I'll probably have to stick to the latter 2 in this case. Though thematically, I would remove Mana Crypt, but I'm unsure how that would be any better; I wonder how strong it really is... There are wincons in there already, though nearly all require their respective creature; a very discerning problem. What to do when stuff like Leveler + Shared Fate is too janky to even be used? Teferi, Mage of Zhalfir locks down all opponents, but the rest? I'm not sure. That said, thanks! I dunno what to replace these w/ but I hope these are great alts...

...(Now I want to make a Zedruu the Greathearted Group Hug/Chaos Deck in Jhoira #1's stead... ;-; (Unless giving away some key pieces is to risky? I dunno if it's the opponent that chooses or not...))

January 9, 2019 10:36 a.m.

BMHKain says... #4

Alright. 5 cards over. Abaques, What would you suggest for cuts? I settled for Group Slug & General Chaos, but there are certain stuff I like that'll be removed as a result. Any ideas? I'll work on Ruric Thar until then...

January 9, 2019 12:37 p.m.

BMHKain says... #5


I'm currently five cards over for this deck, & I want to replace my other "chaos" deck w/ this. Since I decided against wheels, & Group Hug, what should be added in case I go under 100? Otherwise, what 5 cards to cut by any means?

January 10, 2019 10:04 a.m.

BMHKain says... #6


I still have 5 Cards over for this deck. & I want it to be really chaotic.

Also, on an off-topic note, I'm trying to make an UNDER NIGHT IN-BIRTH Tribal Deck if anyone wants to do that. I really need help on this as no search engine analyzes artwork elements. Does anyone want to help? I most certainly need it actually... >~<

January 13, 2019 12:10 p.m.

BMHKain says... #7


I've been trying to find 5 cuts for this deck. I myself, wonder what your choices would be...

January 15, 2019 1:20 p.m.

BMHKain says... #8


I'm still five cards over. Any suggestions for cuts? I'd like some suggestions very soon...

January 17, 2019 8:45 a.m.

BMHKain says... #9


Now I'm 6 cards over, maybe more soon. I just wanted some ideas for cuts in case you still care, guys. So what the heck should I cut while making this an Absolute Chaos deck? Should I do Burn instead?

January 23, 2019 1:49 p.m.

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