Breaking Necropotence
Commander Deck Help forum
Posted on Sept. 11, 2017, 1:37 p.m. by Retile1234
How do I break Necropotence in my Rakdos commander deck?
miracleHat says... #3
Skip putting it in the deck, just place it somewhere in front of you.
September 11, 2017 2:18 p.m.
For additional broken-ness, play T1 Dark Ritual so you can start off your game with a T1 Necropotence. Your opponents will love you!
(results not guaranteed)
September 11, 2017 2:42 p.m.
goblinguiderevealpls says... #6
No moar exile, draw as many cards as you want
Also potent in lifegain, the other day i was playing ravos/tymna cleric edh and i achieved infinite life and needed a wincon, so i paid 65 life and exiled all but 10 cards from my deck, chose the 7 I needed and left the rest to the blind eternities
Its one hell of a card in edh for card draw/value, and with cards like library of leng, Reliquary Tower or heavy lifegain you can basically ignore its downside and draw as much as you want..
My personal favorite combo, either Donate your 'potence to an opponent or target an opponent with 'potence in play, then use Mindslaver or Emrakul, the Promised End to steal their turn and pay all of their life except for 1
You used to be able to draw their entire deck/pay all of their life to kill them, but now you can just leave them with 1 life and 1 card in library
Still a great card to abuse on your side as much as opponents side :p
September 11, 2017 3:54 p.m. Edited.
Retile1234 says... #7
goblinguiderevealpls what life gain would you reccomend?
September 11, 2017 8:49 p.m.
goblinguiderevealpls says... #8
Uhh any lifegain effect thats enough to make the life payment barely effect you, there's too many infinite life combos to name, but stuff like Exquisite Blood or Aetherflux Reservoir arent bad, same with Soul Warden
September 11, 2017 9:04 p.m.
chaosumbreon87 says... #9
Children of Korlis. rebel is an easily searchable tribal if thats what floats your boat. and rebels does have a infinite life combo
can we get a challenge?
September 11, 2017 9:10 p.m.
goblinguiderevealpls says... #10
My personal favorite is Shaman en-Kor and Daru Spiritualist plus Starlit Sanctum or Ayli, Eternal Pilgrim
Also Darien, King of Kjeldor and Soul Warden
September 11, 2017 9:25 p.m.
goblinguiderevealpls says... #11
But as long as you're gaining 7+ life per turn it feels like a free habd refill at the end
September 11, 2017 9:31 p.m. Edited.
goblinguiderevealpls says... #12
Children of korlis does not work. You pay life so no life is being lost its being paid, also doesnt work with darien although he csn gain you life with any form of damage you take
Loss of life and damage aren't the same though, so stuff that prevents damage doesnt prevent loss of life and vice versa
September 11, 2017 9:34 p.m.
goblinguiderevealpls says... #13
And paying life is part of the cost so no cards can be exiled without paying the cost first, and if you are unable to pay the cost such as having 1 or less life, you cant pay it even with Platinum Angel and the like keeping you alive at 0
September 11, 2017 9:35 p.m. Edited.
goblinguiderevealpls says... #14
In rakdos there isnt any lifegain outside of stuff like Bloodchief Ascension Exquisite Blood, as well as Exsanguinate and Gray Merchant of Asphodel being the best per-cast lifegain in black edh
September 11, 2017 9:49 p.m. Edited.
Go old-school, throw in a Ivory Tower. I haven't seen one those played in years.
September 11, 2017 10:17 p.m.
You're playing a Rakdos deck. You don't need life gain. Just kill your opponents faster than you kill yourself. If you have to, play Whip of Erebos. But it's not really needed.
September 12, 2017 12:46 a.m.
goblinguiderevealpls says... #18
Enpc is correct, rakdos edh is in essence suicide black splashing red, do anything to win, pay life, discard, sacrifice
Even if you're at 1 life, none of that matters when your opponents are at 0 :D
Gotta pilot it kamikaze style :p
September 12, 2017 7:51 a.m.
Tyrant-Thanatos says... #19
"Children of korlis does not work. You pay life so no life is being lost its being paid" What? That's not accurate in the slightest. Literally any downward modification of your life total is "life loss". Magister Sphinx targeting a player with 18 life causes them to lose 8 life. Lightning Bolt to the face does 3 damage, causing the player to lose 3 life. Toxic Deluge for 4 costs the caster 4 life, causing them to lose 4 life. Same applies to life gain.
September 12, 2017 2:43 p.m.
goblinguiderevealpls says... #20
Lol it's in the rules, ask a judge,
No need to be rude especially when you have no clue what you're talking about.
Damage is static and can be applied to creatures, players, or walkers
Loss of life had entirely different rulings and only applies to players.
Ask a judge, a judge is who told me so.
September 12, 2017 2:48 p.m.
Tyrant-Thanatos says... #21
LOL IT'S IN THE RULES
118.4. If a cost or effect allows a player to pay an amount of life greater than 0, the player may do so only if his or her life total is greater than or equal to the amount of the payment. If a player pays life, the payment is subtracted from his or her life total; in other words, the player loses that much life.
September 12, 2017 2:55 p.m.
Tyrant-Thanatos is correct, goblinguiderevealpls. You are confusing the rule classification of losing life(ex:Exsanguinate) and damage(ex:Comet Storm). The classification exist to differentiate between preventing loss of life(ex:Platinum Emperion) and damage(ex:Solitary Confinement). Any negative movement of a players life total is considered life loss and children will allow the player to regain it.
September 12, 2017 3:01 p.m.
goblinguiderevealpls says... #23
It says right on the card. "Damage causes loss of life" paying a card cost/paying life as part of a cost does not count as "damage", as it is paid cost, and paying life as part of a cost is not "dealing damage" to yourself.
Necropotence does apply to loss of life but not to damage taken, which is what i was trying to explain. So yes children works but effects that prevent damage or gain life based on damage dealt or taken do not.
September 12, 2017 3:37 p.m. Edited.
Tyrant-Thanatos says... #24
No, Paying life doesn't cause damage, but Children of Korlis doesn't say "you gain life equal to the damage dealt to you this turn" "Damage causes loss of life" is reminder text that damage also causes loss of life, among other things.
September 12, 2017 3:44 p.m.
goblinguiderevealpls says... #25
Anyways can we keep this discussion about necropotence and not personal insults? The maturity level here just de-escalated significantly. Im trying to help him break necropotence in rakdos, not argue with douche-canoes.
Children if you haven't noticed is not black or red, so your rude and uncalled for "arguments" are invalid since you cant run white in rakdos edh anyways. He is specifically asking for rakdos suggestions so even though children works its not a valid suggestion in the first place and should not have been mentioned further since it isnt at all relevant to the discussion.
September 12, 2017 3:47 p.m. Edited.
goblinguiderevealpls says... #26
I already noticed that I misread the card text and that I confused the wording, and mentioned that 2 comments ago, idk why its still being discussed in a rakdos forum
September 12, 2017 3:51 p.m.
Retile1234 says... #27
Okay so what would be a good suicide style mixed with Necropotence? I'll link my deck. Rakdos Command sqaud
September 12, 2017 3:52 p.m.
Tyrant-Thanatos says... #28
You attacked me first buddy. All I did was point out that what you said was incorrect, you responded with "you have no clue what you're talking about"
The only thing I did that was rude was the caps post. Namecall all you want man, I just don't want misinformation being spread.
September 12, 2017 3:52 p.m.
goblinguiderevealpls says... #29
Exquisite Blood Bloodchief Ascension, Whip of Erebos, Crypt Incursion, Exsanguinate Loxodon Warhammer and Basilisk Collar are among the options, Sanguine Bond goes infinite with e-blood and ascension but doesnt do much by itself
Blood Artist is also insane in edh.
September 12, 2017 3:56 p.m.
Sinice it's a Rakdos, Lord of Riots deck you could always try out Vedalken Orrery since you might have enough mana to dump a large number of creatures drawn before discarding.
September 12, 2017 10:09 p.m.
filthyc4sual says... #31
Well my first combo deck was necro and Platinum Angel. Then I said screw it and cut the Angel.
abby315 says... #2
Put it in the deck. There! It's broken :P
September 11, 2017 1:52 p.m.