You have choices, but they're all bad

Legacy B/R (Rakdos)

Kasseem Score: 303


Description

So yea, this is a deck that gives your opponent choices. It was a challenge to find these type of cards because of the wording on them and I'm sure I missed other choice cards out there. So if anyone has any suggestions, please throw in a comment =)

Suggestions

Updates

— May 11, 2012

I'm gonna start adding choice cards to the Maybeboard that didn't make the cut so peeps can look at other choice card options that cater to their play style(the people of the interweb)!

So even if the card isn't in red or black or just seems bad, still go ahead and throw it in the comments and I'll add it to the pool of choice cards =D


— April 13, 2012

Also added Killing Wave =D

— April 12, 2012

Threw in Vexing Devil =D

Gennair says... #1

Fun as hell

August 14, 2011 11:11 p.m.

Waningdream says... #2

I would look into Painful Quandary

August 15, 2011 1:26 p.m.

Kasseem says... #3

I think I'll put in a couple Painful Quandary as another win condition. I few people have already stated if someone has played this deck before, it's not too threatening(a.k.a not many win conditions).

Thx for the feedback =).

August 15, 2011 2:53 p.m.

It's hillarious to play, +1.

Are there any other creatures like that, because I'm sure you'd be hard pressed to get 'em when you need 'em.

August 17, 2011 6:50 p.m.

Kasseem says... #5

There are Flailing Soldier , Flailing Ogre and Flailing Manticore . Though I'm not sure a if one, they're considered choice cards, two, if they're worth it, and three, what to take out of the current deck to make room.

Now that I'm looking at Flailing Manticore , he is a beast if not dealt with.

Hmmmmm. Not too sure here. Suggestions?

Also there's Confusion in the Ranks that can be entertaining in a multiplayer game. Though not so good in 1v1 and it wouldn't do much in this deck atm.

Thx peeps for the +1's, and if you know of any good choice cards, I'm more then willing to take a look =)

August 17, 2011 9:27 p.m.

Kasseem says... #6

Actually Lethal Vapors would be ideal to take out if more creatures would be put into the deck.

Take out Lethal Vapors for Flailing Manticore ? Yes, No? Same mana cost and easier to cast with the 3R instead of 2BB.

August 17, 2011 9:35 p.m.

shifty4690 says... #7

I dunno, I kinda like Lethal Vapors . It locks the board down and if they don't have enchantment removal on hand they will have to destroy it on sight and take the skip. If they do, that sets you up nicely to play Painful Quandary right after.

The only problem I see is that it comes in late if you don't have something like dark ritual. I would like to see more creatures in here though. And it seems like any deck running blue would just counter half of your spells and therefore paying the life wouldn't be too risky.

Fun deck though =)

August 18, 2011 10:41 p.m.

clamyd says... #8

Fact or Fiction fits the theme. Also Sphinx of Uthuun So does Conundrum Sphinx but theyre blue :/

August 21, 2011 4:02 a.m.

Malkavia says... #9

OMG, i LOVE this concept !!!! AMAZING! :D :D

August 21, 2011 10:36 a.m.

torridus says... #10

The only other "choice" cards I can think of off the top of my head are Lava Blister and Book Burning , which are situational and may be in the sideboard at best.

August 21, 2011 3:04 p.m.

Kasseem says... #11

I love me some sexy Fact or Fiction . It might be worth splashing blue if I find myself lacking cards mid to late game.

I saw Book Burning in my initial search, but as you said, it's quite situational. Lava Blister on the other hand seems like a great side board card! I'll definitely start a side board now =)

Again thx peeps for the +1's and feedback. It really helps me in deck building =)

August 21, 2011 3:55 p.m.

jerseymtg says... #12

wow what a fun deck. nice price too

August 21, 2011 6:45 p.m.

FallenSouls says... #13

you can add Temporal Extortion :D

August 22, 2011 1:52 p.m.

Kasseem says... #14

With the exception of Curse of the Cabal and another land drop, I don't think there's much benefit to get an extra turn in this deck. Since a lot of spells in here are reaction based.

Well...extra swings with the Shivan Wumpus would be nice, but 4 black mana specific can be rough to cast.

Not sure, I'll have to test it out. Thx for the feedback =)

August 22, 2011 2:18 p.m.

djfs4 says... #15

Tyrannize maybe?

August 22, 2011 8:58 p.m.

Kasseem says... #16

Fancy! I like Tyrannize =) Sideboarding it for now, but may put a couple in the main deck once I test it out a little :)

August 22, 2011 9:06 p.m.

eleate says... #17

Seems so funny :) + 1

August 22, 2011 11:41 p.m.

QuentinD says... #18

This is so badass!!!?!?!!?!?!! +1

August 23, 2011 1:23 a.m.

romeo22 says... #19

what about running Phyrexian Obliterator ? It gives your opponents choices...get beat in the face with a 5/5, or lose a lot of permanants. also its just a good card lol

August 23, 2011 2:59 p.m.

Kasseem says... #20

I don't think Phyrexian Obliterator is really a choice card. If it was like "any player may sac X permanents to prevent X damage from Phyrexian Obliterator ", then I would agree.

It's the same as lets say Glissa, the Traitor for example. You can either block it and lose a creature, or take 3 damage, but it's still just normal atacking and blocking options with passive abilities.

But yes, it's a silly good card if the dealt with ;)

August 23, 2011 5:35 p.m.

nsecord says... #21

Dude... I frickin love this! +1(000,000,000)

August 23, 2011 5:50 p.m.

romeo22 says... #22

This is true, he is not strictly as choice based as the majority of your cards.

He also makes a tremendous blocker lmao. But i suppose he may just not have a place in your deck.

In any case though, kudos, and +1 from me lol

August 23, 2011 10:17 p.m.

MagicFingers says... #23

Sweet God, this is fantastic. An enthusiastic +1 from me!

Question: How are you using this deck? Casually against some friends, or in some sort of series of Legacy tournaments?

August 23, 2011 10:18 p.m.

Kasseem says... #24

I haven't put it together yet =( I wanted to see what ideas other people can come up with before I ordered the cards I needed.

However, I just ordered the cards to finish it up(along with the side board and maybe board too), so I should have some actual results in a week or so.

Oh yea, I'll just be playing against some friends. Their decks range between standard casual play, to fairly serious legacy play, and everything in between =) So I'll have a lot of deck variety to play against.

August 24, 2011 1:40 a.m.

nsecord says... #25

Sooooo if you don't mind I'm gonna give this deck idea my own take some time in the near future. Of course you'll get all the credit for the deck though

August 24, 2011 2:05 a.m.

Kasseem says... #26

By all means, pick away and make your own creation. I'm honored to have influenced people with the deck =)

August 24, 2011 2:26 a.m.

nsecord says... #27

This is what I came up with for a fist draft... It's Not That I Win... It's That You Lose... lemme know what you think :)

August 24, 2011 2:47 a.m.

JasonD says... #28

I raelly like the idea here. I was looking at my Blazing Salvo the other day thinking I should put something like this together.

The problem, I think, is that it's a bit passive. I think you could benefit from that Phyrexian Obliterator for now, even if he does not fit the bill exactly. Perhaps even going for some Contaminated Ground to lock them down? I think you might lack a proper kill if you don't. (I'm thinking of a crossbreed between this and land-destroy for myself)

I will +1 and salute you for the idea tho, very well built.

August 24, 2011 10:50 p.m.

jahosephat17 says... #29

this deck is so awesome it doesnt even need a win con!

just bug your opponent to death!

August 25, 2011 1:58 a.m.

Kasseem says... #30

Mr. Obliterator is super sweet, but he's also super $$. While I do agree he would do well in the deck and give it more win conditions, he's also... I don't know, I guess too powerful for this level of deck. It would take all the fun out of my opponent if he didn't have an answer to him.

I want my opponent to choose to die, or of had the choice to change the outcome from previous turns of his/her current situation.

When I finally get it put together and test it out, I'll see if it needs more win conditions. If so, I'd rather put something like Flailing Manticore , since it's more themed oriented and at the same time, not a "I win" card.

With all that said, I would never disagree if someone put Phyrexian Obliterator in their deck that's a variation of this deck ;)

Thx peeps for the feedback! You guys are sweeeeeeeet!

August 25, 2011 3:13 a.m.

Dude, I love this deck, but you need more creatures, like a few Goblin Arsonist for one-drop and bad choices on your opponent's head/s.

+1 from me either way.

August 25, 2011 4:01 a.m.

rxfireball says... #32

This looks like a lot of fun. I think Risky Move could be a worthwhile addition.

August 25, 2011 4:35 a.m.

Kasseem says... #33

I already have a coin flip deck =)

Check it out...Flip that Coin

August 25, 2011 11:28 a.m.

pwylladune says... #34

August 25, 2011 4:40 p.m.

mantraD313 says... #35

I dunno if you would run into problems with being out-creatured, but if so, Prowling Pangolin fits

August 26, 2011 2:02 a.m.

Kasseem says... #36

I looked at Prowling Pangolin during my initial search, but don't think anyone would sac 2 creatures to deal with him since he's just a 6/5(unless they're running a token deck or graveyard tactics).

With what cards ppl can get out for 5 mana nowadays, he doesn't seem to have enough bang for his buck anymore =(

I'll still keep him in mind though if I feel it's useful against my normal crew, and he does fit the theme quite well =)

August 26, 2011 3:51 a.m.

RunOfTheMill says... #37

This is so horribly wonderful.

August 27, 2011 8:41 p.m.

Trehiri says... #38

You could consider Liliana of the Veil . Her ultimate is very much like the deck you are running.

September 3, 2011 9:26 p.m.

Kasseem says... #39

Once Liliana of the Veil is out, i'll definitely test her out =)

September 3, 2011 10:17 p.m.

nsecord says... #40

I thought Prowling Pangolin said Prowling Penguin... I got so excited...

September 6, 2011 2:45 a.m.

Nobilior says... #41

I love this deck so much...

September 19, 2011 11:13 p.m.

Have you play tested this with Liliana of the Veil yet?

November 17, 2011 1:47 a.m.

Kasseem says... #43

I see where you're going, but this deck isn't designed for being discarded by her +1 up until her -6. =(

November 17, 2011 11:33 a.m.

Well, I bought a copy of this deck for myself. I can't way to surprise my playgroup with it. Should be hilarious. Thanks again for the great idea. brilliant :)

November 18, 2011 12:32 a.m.

Kasseem says... #45

Wow =0 I'm flattered! =) I wish you gg's on the battlefield and poor choices from your opponent.

If you like wacky ideas, I have a coin flip deck as well Flip that Coin. It's another fun idea that you (and especially your opponent) will have fun with =)

November 18, 2011 2:33 a.m.

I've seen that deck. Through that deck is how I found this one :). Did you try out Temporal Extortion? IF so, how did it play?

November 21, 2011 6:34 p.m.

Kasseem says... #47

I haven't tried it. I figured it doesn't really do much in the deck unless I have a silly amount of mana.

November 21, 2011 7:39 p.m.

Check Out a card called Wand of Ith . Might be perfect for this deck besides the mana cost.

November 22, 2011 2:12 a.m.

Kasseem says... #49

That's awesome! Putting a couple in! Excellent suggestion =)

November 22, 2011 2:25 a.m.

Enryore says... #50

A collection of the more amusing cards of Magic, and I think they'll work well together too as opponents lose life or gets nothing at all out.. This deck deserves a +1 ;)

May 6, 2012 4:49 a.m.

monkty says... #51

why dont you ReanimateMTG Card: Reanimate Vexing DevilMTG Card: Vexing Devil?

May 7, 2012 12:26 a.m.

Kasseem says... #52

ReanimateMTG Card: Reanimate doesn't give my opponent a choice =D

That's a sick turn 2 for another deck though =D

May 7, 2012 8:05 a.m.

Kasseem says... #53

Well, I suppose it does when Vexing DevilMTG Card: Vexing Devil comes back into play.

May 7, 2012 8:26 a.m.

monkty says... #54

i think it gives them 2 choices :P if you play Vexing DevilMTG Card: Vexing Devil the same turn and they take 4 :P You have Lightning BoltMTG Card: Lightning Bolt in there that isnt a choice just saying i think ReanimateMTG Card: Reanimate would be good hahaha

May 7, 2012 11:17 a.m.

Kasseem says... #55

Yeaaaa. I know I'm being a hypocrite by putting Lightning BoltMTG Card: Lightning Bolt in there, but it's to make sure the game doesn't stall for too long. It makes it less fun when both sides are just waiting for me to top deck a creature to end the game.

I'll surely consider and play test with ReanimateMTG Card: Reanimate though. Thx for the input =D

May 7, 2012 11:35 a.m.

Vlattic says... #56

May 8, 2012 1:10 a.m.

Kasseem says... #57

Ooohhh! Haven't seen that one before. I like the potential of Dark RitualMTG Card: Dark Ritual into Ogre MarauderMTG Card: Ogre Marauder turn 1. I'll test him out for sure. Thx for the input =D

May 8, 2012 12:06 p.m.

monkty says... #58

when i was getting the cards for this deck at my local game store i found this Longhorn FirebeastMTG Card: Longhorn Firebeast not great but they didnt have Prowling PangolinMTG Card: Prowling Pangolin

May 8, 2012 8:24 p.m.

Kasseem says... #59

Haven't seen that one. I think Prowling PangolinMTG Card: Prowling Pangolin is the better pick for this deck setup, but good find none the less =D

May 9, 2012 2:30 p.m.

monkty says... #60

i tested this deck out for real. Major problem with it is ppl just out creature you. you dont have enough creatures in this deck.

May 10, 2012 12:21 a.m.

Kasseem says... #61

hmmmmm. Breaking PointMTG Card: Breaking Point and Killing WaveMTG Card: Killing Wave should deal with the opponent's creatures, as well as Blazing SalvoMTG Card: Blazing Salvo. I know it's all situational though, as it's the nature of the deck. Lethal VaporsMTG Card: Lethal Vapors from the sideboard should help as well. What kinds of creature decks were you up against?

Shivan WumpusMTG Card: Shivan Wumpus is another creature that sticks with the theme.

Lightning BoltMTG Card: Lightning Bolts should also be saved to kill off the opponent unless you're gonna die of course.

The deck definitely has it's weaknesses, so I wouldn't expect it to compete with high end decks.

May 10, 2012 1:25 a.m.

monkty says... #62

i dont know most of the time i wasnt dealing enough damage to them to take the Breaking PointMTG Card: Breaking Point wrath. They ramped faster thats what i think is the problem, but this deck was still a ton of fun and laughs, and works much better 1v1.

May 10, 2012 2:09 a.m.

Kasseem says... #63

Oh! Yea, this deck was designed primarily for 1v1's. Anymore then 1 opponent would have the deck hard pressed for sure. That makes more since =D

I'm glad you enjoy the deck! I wish you're opponent poor choices on the battlefield!

May 10, 2012 2:18 a.m.

GopherKing says... #64

This deck is hilarious! I love it! I'm thinking of buying it just to mess with my friends! +1!

May 10, 2012 4:23 p.m.

compgurusteve says... #65

Needs BadlandsMTG Card: Badlands and Bloodstained MireMTG Card: Bloodstained Mire badly. +1 for awesomesauce deck. I'm going to proxy it up and do some tests tonight at FNM.

May 11, 2012 1:41 a.m.

maiden77 says... #66

this deck is amazing, may i suggest using something like Djinn IlluminatusMTG Card: Djinn Illuminatus for copying evilness and/or Burning WishMTG Card: Burning Wish to get more win cons or horrible cards :-)

May 11, 2012 4:13 a.m.

rstnme says... #67

THIS DECK IS AWESOME! I just play tested:

Turn 1: Blackcleave CliffsMTG Card: Blackcleave Cliffs for 2 Dark RitualMTG Card: Dark Ritual to cast Prowling PangolinMTG Card: Prowling Pangolin.

Turn 2: Another Blackcleave CliffsMTG Card: Blackcleave Cliffs for a Vexing DevilMTG Card: Vexing Devil and, then I cast Blazing SalvoMTG Card: Blazing Salvo.

Insane!

May 11, 2012 1:24 p.m.

Kasseem says... #68

@compgurusteve They're so expensive XD! However, they are definitely an upgrade =D

@maiden77 I feel Djinn IlluminatusMTG Card: Djinn Illuminatus is a bit too late game for this deck.

If I didn't make a side board(which I usually don't), I'd throw in Burning WishMTG Card: Burning Wish as it's a really funny card. For another deck however, we shall see!

Thx for all of the positive feedback and suggestions peeps! It definitely makes me want to make more unique decks like this one =D

May 11, 2012 4:21 p.m.

compgurusteve says... #69

Price of ProgressMTG Card: Price of Progress would also be good as a win-con instead of just bolt. The need for your opponent to be at an acceptable health on turn 5 is crucial. Since it's legacy you'll hardly ever see a deck not running non-basics.

May 12, 2012 1:27 a.m.

compgurusteve says... #70

Price of ProgressMTG Card: Price of Progress would also be good as a win-con instead of just bolt. The need for your opponent to be at an acceptable health on turn 5 is crucial. Since it's legacy you'll hardly ever see a deck not running non-basics. Didn't get a lot of testing in tonight so I'll see if I can get some in tomorrow. The people who've seen it so far though loled their arses off.

May 12, 2012 1:30 a.m.

Kasseem says... #71

I think Price of ProgressMTG Card: Price of Progress would end up killing me since the deck has 12 non-basic lands.

My play group also doesn't use too many non-basics, but I could see other players using it for sure =D

May 12, 2012 4:57 a.m.

MaritLage says... #72

Please take a look at my reanimator if you get the chance! I'm hoping to possibly play it at GP Minneapolis next weekend so all Comments and or +1's are greatly appreciated. My deck name is SHENANIGANS! >:D

May 12, 2012 3:03 p.m.

Lhurgyof says... #73

I like it, +1 from me.

Kind of a "choose your poison" deck.

May 13, 2012 12:26 a.m.

DarthTrevyn says... #74

Hahaha! Nice! +1

May 14, 2012 12:38 a.m.

LeakyBucket says... #75

Very nice. Have you looked at Goblin GameMTG Card: Goblin Game?

May 14, 2012 8:54 a.m.

Kasseem says... #76

Goblin GameMTG Card: Goblin Game? Can't say that I have. I think the mana cost is a bit too rich for my blood. It's a hilarious card though =D

May 15, 2012 4:59 p.m.

DaBeast says... #77

I love Do or DieMTG Card: Do or Die. Not quite on the lines of the rest of the deck but it does provide a choice.

May 19, 2012 5:52 p.m.

Like what you've done with the deck. I run this deck, without the recent changes. Here's another card for you Dwarven DrillerMTG Card: Dwarven Driller, Dwarven ScorcherMTG Card: Dwarven Scorcher, Heart of BogardanMTG Card: Heart of Bogardan (your choice), Nakaya ShadeMTG Card: Nakaya Shade, Ogre MarauderMTG Card: Ogre Marauder, Rhystic SyphonMTG Card: Rhystic Syphon, Tainted SpecterMTG Card: Tainted Specter, Unnatural HungerMTG Card: Unnatural Hunger

Hope some of this helps! We may have enough cards for an EDH deck... who'd be the general?

May 20, 2012 7:04 p.m.

Kasseem says... #79

I'm back from a bad case of diablo-idus =D

@ DaBeast I'd call Do or Die a choice card in my book. I love the mana cost on it. I'm really gonna try to fit it in the deck somehow =D

@ Thatdudeabides Fantastic finds good sir! I haven't seen most of these. Not an expert at EDH, but feel free to take a look at the maybeboard as a reference to many choice cards I've come across if you'd be up to the challenge =D

June 6, 2012 2:14 p.m.

psychatog007 says... #80

Longhorn Firebeast and Book Burning come to mind the latter being marignally less useful in your deck. I ran a choice deck back in odyssey. my biggest problem back then is everyone would take the life early on to get their threats out. then I would stall out by the time they had board control. Could be fun to try again.

June 8, 2012 12:59 p.m.

Myronn says... #81

Doesn't fit the colors, or really do much for your deck (other than hose reanimators) but for your maybe board?? Grip of Amnesia

July 31, 2012 8:36 p.m.

Kasseem says... #82

Yep, I've been using the maybe board for any choice cards that didn't make my personal cut. Since searching for these kind of cards is a bit tricky, I figured it would be helpful if someone else wanted to make a similar deck.

August 1, 2012 2:17 a.m.

Lhurgyof says... #83

You should use Goblin Game .

Horribly confusing and gives them a choice in their demise.

Why do I love this deck so much!?

August 1, 2012 10:38 p.m.

Kasseem says... #84

Hahaha! Goblin Game is very cute and though I don't think it's gonna make my personal cut, I'll surely throw it in the maybe board to show people it exists =D

August 2, 2012 12:47 p.m.

AnCarver says... #85

This type of deck is really fun to make. I just spent a day or so putting together another version of it, as Mono-Red (Multiple Choice). I wish I had seen your list of Maybeboard cards beforehand - that would have helped out a whole bunch. I like the brutality of the cards you play (Choice of Damnations especially), but hesitate at the high mana costs. card:Mages' Contest and Flaming Gambit are two more for the list. My personal favorite is triggering Pyromancer Ascension , casting Breaking Point , and then Flaming Gambit after they decide 12 damage isn't worth all their creatures.

August 2, 2012 1:17 p.m.

Kasseem says... #86

Great finds AnCarver! card:Mages' Contest is very unique especially. They'll be added to the list for sure. =D

August 2, 2012 1:29 p.m.

Sax says... #87

This is a hilarious looking deck. +1!

August 9, 2012 12:56 p.m.

Hiding says... #88

lol mages contest is pretty hilarious

August 9, 2012 1:27 p.m.

Shivan Wumpus would fit the theme, though nobody likes to play against land destruction.

August 14, 2012 12:46 a.m.

Kasseem says... #90

I had Shivan Wumpus in the "beta" version of the deck and though it was great getting it out early with Dark Ritual , it usually came late enough for the opponent to deal with it. Then he just becomes your next draw when he rarely wins the game alone =(

That's not to say he can't be used in a similar deck. He'll be in the maybeboard for other peeps to check out if they want to make a similar deck with different options =D

August 14, 2012 2:24 a.m.

lil_cheez says... #91

It's an amazing decklist! I just loved it xD bad it's sooo expensive!...

August 14, 2012 7:36 p.m.

Kasseem says... #92

I'm glad you like it =D If you're worried about the cost, most of it is the dual lands and Vexing Devil . The dual lands can be replaced by less pricy versions that produce the same mana.

Vexing Devil would be a bit painful not to have, but there's tons of options. Ogre Marauder , Shivan Wumpus and Flailing Soldier to name a few, are good subs that are very inexpensive.

I'm using the maybeboard as a list of cards that didn't make my cut for peeps to look at in case they want to make a similar deck with different options =D

August 14, 2012 9:42 p.m.

Askani28 says... #93

Mouhahahaha so evil. I did a similar deck a couple of years ago. It never really worked but it was hilarious to play with and against. I never got it to be actually good though. Seems this version works :)

August 16, 2012 12:59 p.m.

Askani28 says... #94

Suggestion: The Hit part of Hit/Run can be very funny - and even a win con in some situations. Its a really painful choice when all you have are big creatures or big artifacts. Combined with other sacrificial stuff like Killing Wave , Consuming Vapors , Tribute to Hunger or even card:Geth's Verdict, there's a big chance the Hit might do some real damage.

August 16, 2012 1:08 p.m.

Moo says... #95

Considered Curse of the Cabal ?

+1 Btw :')

August 16, 2012 3:12 p.m.

Kasseem says... #96

@ Askani28 I feel the sac effect spells like card:Geth's Verdict, Tribute to Hunger , etc. aren't really choice cards. It's like having Glissa, the Traitor attack with the opponent at 3 or less and you have 2 1/1's to block with. Sure you get to choose which one chump blocks, but there's not another option other then blocking. Much like there's not another option except saccing a dude.

@ user:Moolet Tried it when 1st making the deck. It was cute, but overall didn't do enough for the cost 90% of the time.

Thx for the +1's and feedback peeps! You guys are awesome =D

August 20, 2012 8:01 p.m.

miracleHat says... #97

what turn does this deck normally win on in a good hand? nice concept!

August 26, 2012 3:22 p.m.

AnCarver says... #98

Found a new one: Perplex

August 28, 2012 3:22 p.m.

Kasseem says... #99

@m12fox - Mmmmmm, maybe turn 4 until the opponent scoops if it's a good hand. The average is 5-10 turns depending on what chooses they make, but it's usually inevitable until they scoop. I'm glad you like it =D

@AnCarver - Very nice find. I'll add it to the list =D

August 28, 2012 8:19 p.m.

this deck is so damn interesting and looks like it be fun as hell to play! +1

September 5, 2012 2:36 a.m.

BLEATH says... #101

Found some more.Nova Pentacle . Takklemaggot looks fun. Giant Albatross , and Tidal Flats . They're not exactly good, but just some more to put to the maybeboard. :D

September 18, 2012 7:22 p.m.

DrkNinja says... #102

This deck is awesome. Just sayin

September 19, 2012 3:11 a.m.

Kasseem says... #103

Thx for the extra maybeboard cards and sweet feedback peeps =D

September 22, 2012 5:48 p.m.

BLEATH says... #104

Urgh, gotta give one last one! Magus of the Abyss . THERE! Phew...

September 22, 2012 11:59 p.m.

marshall1984 says... #105

Love this deck! So much fun for casual play.

October 31, 2012 11:07 p.m.

gosslot says... #106

What about Blood Clock?

November 14, 2012 10:44 a.m.

Kasseem says... #107

Good catch. Probably not for this deck, but I'll put it in the maybeboard =)

November 14, 2012 4:36 p.m.

spite91 says... #108

These wont fit in your deck unless you also add blue but there is Vedalken Ghoul and Prince of Thralls also Seizures is pretty good combined with Dwarven Driller or Contaminated Ground

December 16, 2012 1:33 a.m.

spite91 says... #109

Also you can combine Perplex and Hellfire Mongrel

December 16, 2012 1:49 a.m.

Kasseem says... #110

I use my maybeboard as a pool of choice cards for other people who might be interested in this style of deck, so some of these are still useful suggestions. Thank you sir =D

December 16, 2012 2:52 p.m.

spite91 says... #111

Anytime =) I enjoy helping others!

December 17, 2012 6:34 p.m.

wasurenbou says... #112

card:Pain's Reward

January 6, 2013 5:42 a.m.

wasurenbou says... #113

Also Mind Bomb and other Rhystics e.g. Rhystic Scrying

January 29, 2013 2:57 a.m.

Kasseem says... #114

=DDDDDDD

card:Pain's Reward is really really cool! Want to find a way to put it in my main(or side at least)!

The other 2 will go in the list. Thank you sir =D

January 29, 2013 3:13 p.m.

miracleHat says... #115

i know that this isn't in the coices theme but Terminate is a b/r staple

January 31, 2013 5:51 p.m.

Kasseem says... #116

Yea, if it only had a choice =(

February 4, 2013 1:53 a.m.

IronSarge says... #117

I simply love the idea behind this deck.
It makes the opponent hate you so much!
+1 for me, great work

February 6, 2013 8:30 a.m.

Kasseem says... #118

Why thank you sir =D

February 6, 2013 1:07 p.m.

Lizmichi says... #119

I love the idea behind this deck. Ether way your oppenent is messing them selves up. Very well built.

February 6, 2013 11:14 p.m.

Dallie says... #120

I play a Choice of Damnations in my oooold deck, just for giggles. Add that to the maybeboard?

February 7, 2013 3 a.m.

Kasseem says... #121

It does well when your opponent is below 10 life. Sometimes it gets sideboarded, but generally it causes the opponent to scoop =)

February 7, 2013 3:11 a.m.

Dallie says... #122

Just forget me... I didn't read the decklist thoroughly enough...

February 7, 2013 4:32 a.m.

Myronn says... #123

Another for the maybe board: Phantasmagorian

February 8, 2013 6:45 p.m.

Myronn says... #124

February 8, 2013 6:48 p.m.

Kasseem says... #125

YAY! More choice cards! Thanks =D

February 8, 2013 9:51 p.m.

nazgulth says... #126

This deck man... haha I love this deck its so... Douchey? I don't even know.+1 for sure man, im 100% done with this deck ahaha

February 10, 2013 12:09 a.m.

jedtothemax says... #127

Hissing Miasma No Mercy in way makes your opponents think on whether they want to choose to attack you or not :P

February 25, 2013 5:02 p.m.

Kasseem says... #128

I somewhat see your point, but I feel it's similar to having Glissa, the Traitor . They still have the same option to attack or not attack. In other words it's not giving them options they otherwise wouldn't have.

However I wouldn't scold someone who decided to make their own choice deck with those cards in it ;)

February 25, 2013 10:15 p.m.

Myronn says... #129

Ran into another one: Evangelize

August 1, 2013 4:24 p.m.

jermtube says... #130

hey, you made something like this too! here is my take on the punisher style deck. i made it Grixis colors, but otherwise we have some similarities: Would You Rather...?

August 1, 2013 5:42 p.m.

vaydasa says... #131

i made a deck similar to this as well, Custody Battle is a hilarious card to use for this type of thing

August 3, 2013 2:06 a.m.

Myronn says... #132

August 9, 2013 4:22 p.m.

Kasseem says... #133

Awesome finds guys(particularity Oracle en-Vec is really evil)! They've been added to the maybeboard archives =)

August 10, 2013 3:09 p.m.

Myronn says... #134

Kazuul, Tyrant of the Cliffs is a fairly nasty choice creature!

August 13, 2013 2:07 p.m.

lil_cheez says... #135

Another card for Maybeboard... Evangelize

September 10, 2013 5:47 p.m.

ElfKing says... #136

Great Deck! +1 From Me

It would be awesome if you would check out my elf deck Mono Green Elf Deck and see if you could give me any suggestions. I would love input from smart mtg players.

January 19, 2014 5:41 p.m.

Myronn says... #137

New tribute creatures in Born of the Gods! Cool mechanism that allows more creatures in this deck, like Flame-Wreathed Phoenix

February 4, 2014 2:41 p.m.

Relictus says... #139

Thanks for keeping the awesome maybeboard around for other players to get ideas from.I found this while doing the common shuffle yesterday and created an account just to share: Worms of the Earth Keep up the awesome!

February 17, 2014 12:08 p.m.

Kasseem says... #140

Thanks everyone for the positive feedback! The maybeboard has been updated with the new tribute cards and older cards mentioned in the comments. Great stuff all around =D

February 18, 2014 5:29 a.m.

Tiamatria says... #141

oh my god I LOVE this.

February 19, 2014 5:48 p.m.

Relictus says... #142

Mogis, God of Slaughter I think fits well as well

February 22, 2014 8:03 p.m.

Boss123 says... #143

Temporal Extortion

February 26, 2014 7:30 p.m.

NickDipples says... #144

"How to make someone stop playing Magic the Gathering"

February 28, 2014 2:04 p.m.

octopus13 says... #145

I would put in a few Curse of the Cabal for maybe Killing Wave or Breaking Point .

March 21, 2014 8:36 p.m.

Kasseem says... #146

Killing Wave and Breaking Point are already in the deck and Curse of the Cabal is already in the maybeboard =)

March 21, 2014 9:30 p.m.

octopus13 says... #147

I know, what I'm saying is that you TAKE OUT Killing Wave and Breaking Point and put in Curse of the Cabal .

March 22, 2014 12:35 a.m.

Kasseem says... #148

Oh I see. I tried Curse of the Cabal in the past, and while it was entertaining, it gave the opponent too much time to react. When it did work according to plan, it was more of a "win more" card then a necessity to win the game.

March 22, 2014 2:21 p.m.

octopus13 says... #149

Wait, this is legit competitive?

March 31, 2014 7:55 p.m.

Kasseem says... #150

Haha, I doubt it. I made the deck with a specific theme in mind, and while it's entertaining and may even win a good amount in a casual setting, I don't think this would ever see serious play. A nice thought though =)

April 2, 2014 4:15 p.m.

Anublet90 says... #151

Wow, you must've lost your ** when Born of the Gods came out.

April 2, 2014 4:23 p.m.

octopus13 says... #152

So ,if Curse of the Cabal is entertaining, why not play it?

April 2, 2014 10:35 p.m.

Kasseem says... #153

@Anublet90 I was definitely excited to see more choice cards come out, though their were very few that fit the colors of this deck and were good. I might try out Oracle of Bones and see what crazy free spells I can get out =D

@octopus13 While Curse of the Cabal is fun when it works, it rarely worked and was ultimately its downfall with my personal experience. With that said, I wouldn't judge anyone who made a variant of this deck and put Curse of the Cabal in there ;D

April 3, 2014 5:35 p.m.

What do you think about adding some land enchantments like Contaminated Ground , Pooling Venom , or Blight ? I think it works with the choice theme.

April 24, 2014 5:46 a.m.

Kasseem says... #155

Oh man, Blight is just evil. Though I'm not sure I'd personally consider it a choice card since the opponent isn't given an ultimatum when these type of cards are played. Also they kinda get worse as the game goes on. Dropping one on turn 7+ probably won't do much.

However lets say I did consider it, what would I take out and how many would I put in?

April 28, 2014 1:13 p.m.

spellmaster6 says... #156

maybe add Furnace of Wrath or Curse of Bloodletting to make the damage even worse. then maybe Havoc Festival or maybe even Sire Of Insanity to completely wreck your opponents

April 29, 2014 1:12 p.m.

Kasseem says... #157

I like the Furnace of Rath and Curse of Bloodletting idea, but I feel the mana cost is too high with a lot of the decks damage happening on turns 1-3. The other 2 aren't really choice based and I'm really trying to keep that theme as much as possible. I might play around with the 1st two suggestions though =)

April 29, 2014 5:10 p.m.
May 6, 2014 5:14 p.m.

ppledger says... #159

I saw that Oracle of Bones is in your maybeboard already, but I feel like pushing it a bit more. It's normally a good card, but it's absolutely bonkers in a deck like this. If your opponent makes the choice not to increase its power, they have to make a second (and probably harder) choice instead! That card is just hilarious in this kind of set-up.

May 6, 2014 5:28 p.m.

Kasseem says... #160

I somewhat agree, but there's a few things that worry me. What would a take out for it? Also how many spells would be consistently good targets? The 1 and 2 drops are either situational or not good to cast off him. So the only consistent spells I see are Choice of Damnations and Browbeat . Granted I do have the sideboard to consider.

May 7, 2014 3:11 a.m.

Mogis, God of Slaughter is great for putting on the pressure while your control stuff goes to work. He clears out whatever area they have the most of after you cast your choice spells (dudes and life).

really like the deck btw +1

May 12, 2014 8:36 p.m.

2npii says... #162

How about Menacing Ogre to push your creature count up a bit?

May 23, 2014 2:42 p.m.

Lack says... #163

Love this deck :D

A fun endgame twist Mindslaver , not only to give your opponent choices but you make them for him :D

May 23, 2014 5:16 p.m.

AlucardZain says... #164

Purphoros, God of the Forge perhaps? Him and Mogis on the field, oh god....

June 11, 2014 1:48 p.m.

LucasDoA says... #165

A really REALLY fun deck. It has the best of RB, cruel and burn. +1!

June 26, 2014 12:22 a.m.

locopyro says... #166

Surprised no one has mentioned - Liar's Pendulum or Measure of Wickedness

June 26, 2014 6:42 p.m.

Kasseem says... #167

@ locopyro Those 2 are pretty sweet choice cards. Adding them to the list =)

June 26, 2014 7:33 p.m.

Raging_Bull says... #168

I really enjoy this deck but I would suggest replacing the Blackcleave Cliffs with Badlands I haven't looked at your maybe board because there's too many cards there but how would you deal with card combos such as Energy Field and Rest in Peace ?

I feel like this deck is really fast so you don't need to worry about counterspells but they might be useful.

July 11, 2014 9:17 p.m.

Kasseem says... #169

@Raging_Bull Badlands is indeed a flat out upgrade, but the price pretty high for a set(would triple the cost of the deck). Though if you have them, more power to ya =D

I use the maybe board as a pool for any and all choice cards for ppl who might like this style of deck, but would like to build it differently. So most of what's in there wouldn't be considered putting in.

Energy Field would cripple this deck. Do or Die and Tyrannize could be sideboarded in, but it would still be a harsh fight. Lightning Bolt would work too, but that's only if the opponent puts something out to target.

Rest in Peace doesn't seems too bad. Probably sideboard out Reanimate for something else.

Counterspells are actually pretty effective against this deck from my personal exp. Especially during turns 2-4 since it relies on getting the opponent down to dangerously low life. That then makes their choices very difficult to make for the bigger/end-game cards.

July 11, 2014 10:30 p.m.

Kasseem says... #170

Oh, I see the combo. Yea that would butcher this deck completely.

July 11, 2014 10:32 p.m.

Raging_Bull says... #171

Maybe throwing in some stuff that make the other player lose life instead of damage. Or enchantment destruction.I know the Badland will really raise the price of the deck and before when I use to play my BW deck I didn't want to get the Tundras because of how much they cost but after going to a few tournaments I learned how important they are.

July 11, 2014 10:44 p.m.

Kasseem says... #172

Oh I never really considered this a tournament worthy deck. More of a deck to torment friends with, haha.

July 11, 2014 10:56 p.m.

Raging_Bull says... #173

That's probably my favourite thing about mtg.

Also before I meant UW

July 11, 2014 11:04 p.m.

Sloth_Force says... #174

If you want a new card that gives choices and its a creature, try Indulgent Tormentor

July 28, 2014 7:34 a.m.

Kasseem says... #175

That's a nice find. I'll put it on the list.

July 28, 2014 1:15 p.m.

Nicksach says... #176

Maybe you should have a bigger maybe board? Maybe.

August 9, 2014 12:31 a.m.

Saljen says... #177

4x Young Pyromancer would be pretty great in here. No matter what they chose, you get an elemental. Value! Maybe drop some of your 5-6 CMC spells for something a bit more efficient like the Pyromancer. It'll help a TON with consistency. Because after play testing several games with this deck, consistency is what is lacking. Also, if you want to use high CMC spells, Indulgent Tormentor might fit the spot better than the ones you're using.

August 28, 2014 4:54 p.m.

Kasseem says... #178

@Saljen Young Pyromancer is interesting, though the 1/1 army they can make doesn't seem to mesh well with all the AoE removal the deck has. It doesn't fit the theme either.

I think I'll add 1 Indulgent Tormentor to start and see how it does since it's been mentioned multiple times and has potential.

Can you go into further detail about consistency issue? Was it the curve?

August 28, 2014 7:09 p.m.

StGrotesque says... #179

I don't know if somebody mentioned this but Grave Pact ?

September 17, 2014 8:30 a.m.

Kasseem says... #180

Grave Pact is pretty sweet, however I feel it doesn't fit the deck too well with only 6 creatures. Also I don't think it fits the theme of the deck.

September 17, 2014 3:13 p.m.

Dhominus says... #181

What about Standstill ?

September 26, 2014 3:12 p.m.

323Dimitri says... #182

I feel like this deck could use Desperate Ritual and Seething Song . It would fit into the theme because if you counter them you can't counter future spells but if you don't more spells than you can handle will be played.

September 29, 2014 9:22 p.m.

BIGBADBRRRAP says... #183

Hey I love this idea I just made made my own version that I decided to feature more creatures and focus more on land destruction and forcing my opponent to sac their creeps. Please check it out and let me know what you think.



October 20, 2014 4:07 a.m.

RabidCatigi says... #184

Any thoughts on Flame Rift ?

October 22, 2014 4:20 p.m.

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+1 Indulgent Tormentor maybe

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