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Who is ready to have fun? Yidris, Maelstrom Wielder is.

Let's go:

  • "Storm" mechanic shenanigans
  • Mass control

Let me know what you think in the comments below

Comments

beakedbard says... #1

I love how he makes Possibility Storm a good card I've been waiting for that card to find a home since it came out.

October 28, 2016 12:50 a.m.

KailDaemon says... #2

It was good in mizzix spells if you wanted shenans while you went infinite. But yea, yidris just makes it dumb. Its gonna be soooo much fun

October 28, 2016 1:08 a.m.

Wait, what's the deal with Yidris and Possibility Storm? I guess I don't understand

October 28, 2016 1:42 a.m.

KailDaemon says... #4

@VictorSilvertome

Yidris, Maelstrom Wielder says during your postcombat main phase, if he dealt combat damage to a player, spells you cast from your hand gain cascade. Possibility Storm says is a player cast a card from their hand, instead exile that card then exile cards of the top of your library until you hit a card that share a card type of the card you just tried to cast, and play the new card for free...then you put all cards exiled by possibility storm back to the bottom of the deck in a random order.

Not only do you get the cast from the spell you played, but get to cheat another spell from your deck. And then you have the cascade trigger to potentially play another card.

Now give yidris double strike, two instances of cascade happen. Chaos happens at this point.

Someone please correct me if im wrong at any point in this explanation

October 28, 2016 1:55 a.m.

Are you saying you get an extra Cascade trigger off of the spell cast with Possibility Storm?

October 28, 2016 2:17 a.m.

KailDaemon says... #6

@VictorSilvertome

No, because it was cast from your deck. Yidris only gives cascade from spells cast from your hand. But possibility storm allows you to cheat another spell into the game for free, along with the spell you cast to trigger the cascade from yidris.

So main 2:

cast a spell, its on the stack along with cascade, possibility storm triggers, now thats on the stack.

Resolve possibility storm, play a card for free in your deck, move to the spell you originally cast, resolve that effect.

Now the only thing left is the cascade trigger. Resolve that.

October 28, 2016 2:24 a.m.

KailDaemon says... #7

I am wrong...i will not get the original spell effect, only the possibility storm spell and the cascade effect trigger.

Either way though the original spell will be put back into the deck for later use so its not a waste.

October 28, 2016 3:45 a.m.

calexander says... #8

really interesting take on it, I have a scion deck im tearing apart for the mana base in mine and i may steal some ideas for it. Let me know what you think of mine so far? I added eye of the storm as well in mine

http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/the-shrekoning-1/

October 29, 2016 10:16 p.m.

stocky says... #9

i dont think thats how Possibility Storm works you exile the one you cast then go get another spell, it doesnt say you get to re-cast the first one, it stay exiled unless i did read and understand it wrong

November 3, 2016 8:25 p.m.

KailDaemon says... #10

Youre correct...i think i ended up correcting myself in this earlier. But thanks for noting it

However, i may not get the effect from the spell i cast, but i still get the instances of cascade from Yidris. So not only will i get a free "random" spell, i still get to cascade after that

November 3, 2016 10:30 p.m.

Shpalm says... #11

This looks like the perfect deck for Dragonstorm.

November 5, 2016 6:40 a.m.

calexander says... #12

I think that the storm cards that you've added aren't going to end up being as powerful as you're thinking since you dont have so many small cost cards, and in a multiplayer game you're trying to deal a lot more damage that makes things like grabeshot kinda insignificant. Something like Mind's Desire would be a lot better though. I've updated mine and kinda took a different approach from what i was doing originally. might get some other cool ideas there!

http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/the-shrekoning-2/

November 7, 2016 2:09 p.m.

KailDaemon says... #13

@calexander

35 cards in the deck are 3 drops or less, and that not including my actual 0 drops i can cast. So i have plenty of small cast cards to go off to storm.

Grapeshot isnt really in here for the storm mechanic, rather its to help BUILD storm with its small casting cost. If i happen to build up enough storm with it to kill someone or spot remove a creature then awesome.

Plus if i keep storming under Eye of the Storm, the all my storm cards effectively "multistorm". Meaning i can create mana with the rituals infinitely and use cards like Grapeshot and Tendrils of Agony that much more effective.

Also makes wheel effects that more potent with a card like Sphinx's Tutelage and Laboratory Maniac as an alternate win con.

November 7, 2016 2:34 p.m.

calexander says... #14

I forgot how stupid eye of the storm is.... that explains it!

November 7, 2016 3:08 p.m.

KailDaemon says... #15

Eye of the Storm is SOOOO busted with Yidris

November 7, 2016 3:12 p.m.

LTmiller says... #16

Eye of the Storm, Knowledge Pool, Possibility Storm... Try that one on for size with a storm count of 3 casting Mind's Desire w/ Ydris double striking your opponent.

November 7, 2016 3:34 p.m.

KailDaemon says... #17

Yea this is going in

November 7, 2016 3:41 p.m.

LTmiller says... #18

Straight up had to ask an L3 Judge on how that works... We had a 45 minute conversation/explanation. You're opponents will straight go, "F**k it, scoop."

November 8, 2016 8:07 a.m.

jamesfiek says... #19

Ancestral Vision is awesome in a cascade deck.

November 8, 2016 8:50 a.m.

KailDaemon says... #20

If i had one yes

November 8, 2016 10:52 a.m.

tomashin says... #21

Ok so i saw your Eye of the Storm idea and i thought "thats so broken, something is odd". Well, you won't get all your cascade effects if that's what you're looking for here cause in order to activate them you gotta cast spells from your hand. Just like Knowledge Pool actually, if you play that card, none of your cards will have the cascade effect from Yidris.

November 13, 2016 1:02 p.m.

KailDaemon says... #22

tomashin: cascading wont matter if i have eye of storm on the board. Because eye doesnt care where i cast from.

Ex: cast eye, swing with yidris, play a sorc or insta, not only will i cascade ill still put the inital spell under the eye. Say i hit another insta or sorc, it gets put under the eye and now i have 2 free spells im playing. Yes i wont cascade but im still cheating spells.

Now play lab man, cascade, hit a cantrip or 2 drop insta or sorc, repeat until i either win with lab man or i play the tutelage and deck out my opponents if able

November 13, 2016 1:17 p.m.

KailDaemon says... #23

I know i only cascade if i cast it from my hand (same with possibility storm) but those effects wont matter as long as i keep up the storm count utilizing eye of the storm as an engine.

Put a ritual under the storm, noe i habe a crap ton of mana to play more spells.

Put a grapeshot or tendrils of agony under the eye, as long as you keep storming the damage grows exponentially

November 13, 2016 1:20 p.m.

Mishra, Artificer Prodigy already made Possibility Storm great, it's seems like it just makes a bunch of chaos in this deck, which could definitely be fun if that's your thing.

November 16, 2016 3:41 p.m.

OpenFire says... #25

Pretty sweet deck, I'm gonna take some of your options. Island count seems a little low for high tide. Strionic Resonator, Spellshift, and Unexpected Results have been pretty good for me.

So Eye of the Storm is pretty disgusting in Yidris... but I think it's better than people think. The key is in cards that already have cascade printed on them (I choose Deny Reality. Let's say I start my turn with an empty Eye of the Storm in play and nothing else (obviously hits with yidris will make this more broken). I cast Vampiric Tutor, which goes under Eye of the Storm, and finds Tendrils of Agony, which goes on top. Then cast Deny Reality. Cascade triggers, you get tendrils under Eye (storm 3) cast vamp tutor, put an instant or sorc with cmc <5 on top. Deny is cast again with eye. Triggers cascade again! Cast the card you put on there! And you get to play all the instants and sorceries in sequence in your deck, each time also getting to play everything before that AGAIN! Remember, cards with cascade printed trigger it whenever they're cast, from wherever. Yidris only gives it to cards in hand.

Although your opponents will never let you play it out.

November 18, 2016 7:21 p.m.

KailDaemon says... #26

Honestly this deck doesnt rely on yidris...hes pretty much only here for color identity...jeleva with green sounds good to me

November 18, 2016 8:44 p.m.

Gamerjfire says... #27

I would reccomend having a Lotus Petal or something so your 1 mana spells can cascade into something that is more useful than Pact of Negation when you are cascading.

There is Chrome Mox and Mana Crypt, but I like having petal as well.

November 19, 2016 12:38 p.m.

KailDaemon says... #28

I do need a petal, but i hardly cascade

November 19, 2016 4:01 p.m.

metalevolence says... #29

28 land is fucking joke

you're using partial mulligans til you start every game with two 0-1 cmc rocks, or your deck doesn't work

January 25, 2017 11:25 a.m.

KailDaemon says... #30

Well, with most of my spells being 0-3 drops, i dont need alot of land in a starting hand to really work, also rocks replace lands since im running a paradox engine that can untap them for mana so i can keep going, it works suprisingly well when tested. Keeping a hand with 2 lands isnt bad for me. Plus wheeling almost always gives me land/rocks to keep the mojo going.

Most storm decks dont run alot of land

January 25, 2017 11:34 a.m.

metalevolence says... #31

dude.

you have less than 5 rocks, 1 mana dork, a couple rampant growths, and 2 wheels

THAT'S NOT ENOUGH.

Storm decks with low land counts run WAY more rocks and rituals than this.

January 25, 2017 11:44 a.m.

@metalevolenceDude... chill out. I mean, opinions are critiques should always be welcome, but you're being kinda hostile. There's no need to have your jimmies rustled.

January 25, 2017 11:52 a.m.

KailDaemon says... #33

Which is where cheating of mana cost comes into play

Cheating of mana cost is where this deck shines, with yidris to cascade, eye of the storm to copy all my spells, minds desire to further cheat spell, helm of awakening to cheapen spell, expertises to cheat spell, paradox engine just untaps what i need (although adding in a gilded lotus wouldnt be bad) and i run what rituals/wheels i need to go do what the deck does, play spells, reset the deck, and do it again

Looking back i realize my wheel count wasnt what i thought it was but thats an easy fix

January 25, 2017 11:54 a.m.

KailDaemon says... #34

He is fine, i can handle criticism.

The deck has been working for me and my playgroup has had trouble beating it...they have but more often then not ive been on the winning streak. This is by no means my best deck, but a good storm deck with lots of tricks that requires a decent skill level to pilot. Fastest this deck has won is turn 4, with a turn 2 yidris...yes my hand was GOD but its fairly consistent around turn 6 where i get deep into the comboing off

January 25, 2017 11:59 a.m.

I don't agree with the angry guy but Gilded Lotus, Prismatic Geoscope, and Thran Dynamo still seem like they would be great with paradox engine and give you just ridiculous amounts of fuel.

January 25, 2017 12:06 p.m.

KailDaemon says... #36

Yea, i added in a gilded lotus just now and updated my update from the other day to accomodate the changes

January 25, 2017 12:07 p.m.

metalevolence says... #37

i am tired of all the edh decks on this site that are literally nonfunctional

draw some opening hands with this and see how many are playable. then consider how screwed you are if your sol ring/crypt is destroyed.

you have to get lucky to even cast yidris with this pile, let alone making it to 6 mana to recast him

January 25, 2017 12:24 p.m.

metalevolence says... #38

friendly reminder that 28/100 = 2/9

that means you are unlikely to draw 3 lands by turn 3, so even with a farseek effect you are unlikely to be able to cast yidris

without abusive mulligans/outright cheating this deck literally doesn't work

January 25, 2017 12:28 p.m.

metalevolence says... #39

**2/7 not 2/9 my b

point still stands

January 25, 2017 12:37 p.m.

Dude, metalevolence I agree that there are a lot of incompetently designed decks with absurd and greedy mana bases on this site, but being abusive and angry is not helpful or productive, and his deck and choices for it are literally not doing anything to you. Control yourself. Also, KailDaemon I'm not saying I agree with him, I was speaking generally. I would consider running some more sorcery speed land searches, almost definitely cultivate, if only because besides fixing your mana, it thins your deck out more. So Cultivate, Shard Convergence, and maybe even Animist's Awakening actually might be sick.

Also probably Mox Opal

January 25, 2017 12:41 p.m.

KailDaemon says... #41

My usual opening hand will end up in 2 different scenarios

1) 2-3 lands and a few low cost spells that either draws cards, shuffles the deck, or gets land or are a rock and maybe 1-2 high cmc spells

2) 1-2 lands and cards that either draw cards, shuffle the deck, or gets land or are rocks and maybe 1-2 high cmc spells

Plus ontop of this my playgroup does partial pairing so that further increases my odds of having a playable hand...yes i might not draw lands for a few turns...if i didnt have ways to manipulate the deck and shuffle or dig til i find what i need. Just because my land base is low, doesnt mean the deck is bad. It doesnt fit your playstyle and to you that seems wrong. And to you it is. But here that is just an opinion. I respect everyones criticism and opinions and this deck, like all my decks, have gone through massive changes because of them overtime and because of that ive been pretty sucessful as a community member and a player.

Not every deck needs to be competitive or "good". Remember the most important thing about Magic: its a game, and games are meant to be fun. Because people have the freedom to build how they like and enjoy the game in the format they find most enjoyable make it so. This deck isnt hubbed under competitive, its hubbed under theme/gimmick for a reason.

Yes my win/loss rate is positive, and by no means am i surrounded by bad players, but good players with high knowledge of the game and decks that win more consistely than this one. And yet still this deck holds its own and is FUN to play. I appreciate your input sir, but being negative to every point but your own isnt healthy for this deck, this site, or the mtg community

January 25, 2017 12:45 p.m.

KailDaemon says... #42

And yes EternalBrewmaster, i was pondering cultivate/kodama's reach as they both fuel the hand and field with land, just unsure of what to cut at this point

January 25, 2017 12:48 p.m.

KailDaemon says... #43

And yes EternalBrewmaster, i was pondering cultivate/kodama's reach as they both fuel the hand and field with land, just unsure of what to cut at this point

January 25, 2017 12:48 p.m.

metalevolence says... #44

this isn't a difference of opinion. your deck would simply do your gameplan better with more mana, because the amount of mana you have right now is so low.

cutting something for some more lands is a really easy way to make the deck better.

any of 3 enchants, ral zarek, thrasios, and rishkar's seem like easy cuts. crop rotation seems pointless since you don't net mana unless you high tided or something.

cheers.

January 25, 2017 1:16 p.m.

LTmiller says... #45

Okay, so I have some recommendations...

I don't think High Tide actually goes anywhere in this deck. Every time I drew in play testing, I mean EVERY time I drew it, I wanted it not in my hand. It requires four land with your untap spells to be good. So it seems to be really unsynergystic.

I recommend cutting some of those spells that go with High Tide for some more rocks like the Talisman of Dominance. Being URBG you get three I think. RG, RB, UB... Yeah. Three. They're pretty good as the produce colored mana for the price of 1 life. That's pretty good and could potentially allow you to win without ever even having to cast Ydris. Potentially speeding up your deck WAY faster!

Wheel of Fortune is VERY strong in Ydris. Coming from a Melek, Izzet Paragon player that is probably going to build Ydris instead. That being said I'd consider Faithless Looting, Past in Flames, Desperate Ritual, Manamorphose

January 25, 2017 1:27 p.m.

KailDaemon says... #46

Thrasios is a win condition, so cutting him is out

The ral, you might have a point there, yes he is good for untapping my things but ultimately he seems like he no longer fits the deck since it has changed so much from the original build.

I see crop rotation as a free spell: 1 land for 1 land, that doesnt come into play tapped, and fixes mana color, also ups the storm count for kills based off of storm

As for my enchantments, metallurgic and tutelage are win cons, the eye of the storm may be subject to change. Yes it can win me the game but if i fizzle it could spell my doom.

I can see ral and eye being replaced

January 25, 2017 1:28 p.m.

KailDaemon says... #47

@LTmiller

COMPLETELY forgot manamorphose was even a card...thank you

The high tide has been replaced by cultivate and wheel of fortune is in the deck, past in flames seems a good addition as well

January 25, 2017 1:32 p.m.

LTmiller says... #48

KailDaemon Honestly, I'd cut Sphinx's Tutelage, Jace, the Mindsculptor, Crop Rotation, Temporal Mastery, Unsubstantiate, Rishkar's Expertise and maybe some of the Cultivatey effects for some/all of the following (it's still your deck, all your choice this is just advice coming from a Storm player in every format I can).

You lose a lot of speed and consistancy without draw/tutor I would put in Fabricate, Faithless Looting (let's face it the yard is still your hand), Mizzix's Mastery, Past in Flames, Signet Cycle?, Mana Vault, Future Sight+Sensei's Divining Top+Helm of Awakening = Draw your deck. Which is broken... so Future Sight, Cathartic Reunion, Gush, Mox Opal. Just my two cents.. :)

*ALSO DISCLAIMER I'm completely, like BALLS DEEP for Paradox Engine (Who isn't this cards is so broken!!) so everything I'm suggesting is presuming that it's not gonna be banned.

January 25, 2017 1:59 p.m.

KailDaemon says... #49

Also like these

January 25, 2017 4:10 p.m.

Hellpyre says... #50

Just asking, but why isn't Strionic Resonator in yet? It is okay with Yidris himself, but it is bonkers with the Storm trigger, since it basically doubles your count for two mana. It also goes infinite with Paradox Engine.

March 16, 2017 1:41 p.m.

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Cards 100
Avg. CMC 2.74
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