September 18, 2017 1:03 p.m.
DistortionSlayer - Thanks for suggestions. There is already enough removal with 4 Fatal Push, 2 Walk the Plank and 3 Dusk / Dawn. The SB also has 3 Ixalan's Binding and 2 Vraska's Contempt. That's 9 removal in the MB removal 5 SB. Any more and this won't be aggro, it will be control ;)
September 18, 2017 2:08 p.m.
just trying to help :D
September 18, 2017 2:34 p.m.
DistortionSlayer I definitely appreciate the feedback! I will SB the Gideon and Lili removal if I see a lot of them in my meta. :)
September 18, 2017 2:44 p.m.
You need to be playing Sanctum Seeker over Bishop of the Bloodstained. The extra toughness is nice for dodging Lightning Strike, which will be a big player in the format, and the difference between 4 and 5 mana could be 2 turns or more. Also, if you're swinging with the team by turn 4 or 5, the effect is virtually the same, plus you get it every turn. Also, without a cost-reduction effect, Legion Conquistador is too slow. You should swap in Legion's Landing. It's the same cost per body, but it ramps when you flip it. I would also play 3 Mavren Fein, Dusk Apostle. It's just too good, and you can always swing with it and trade if you have 2. Aethersphere Harvester is a weird choice, given that that's the one effect you have in spades. If you're looking for boardwipe protection, go with Bloodcrazed Paladin or Adanto Vanguard. A Copy or two of Ruin Raider would also suit this deck well, since the curve is low, you want to attack, and you have natural life-gain to counteract it.
September 18, 2017 3:37 p.m.
The mainboard seems strong enough to me except for Sword-Point Diplomacy being strictly better than the conquistador. You need something to thin the deck for sure, but the sorcery will do a much better job of it, especially considering once you have one of the conquistadors the others become dead weight.
As far as side board goes, you're missing graveyard hate and artifact hate if you want to round it out, which Crook of Condemnation can at least fill one of those slots. I feel like Sorcerous Spyglass will also need to see play in the sideboard, but I can't rightly say where to make space for it. Nor for the defeat cards you were suggested earlier, though those are good too. Note that I don't count the 4 drop exile non-land card as artifact hate because there is much cheaper ways to get that, even if versatility is always good.
September 18, 2017 3:53 p.m.
I hate you distortion slayer
September 18, 2017 4:09 p.m.
TheRedGoat - Legion Conquistador has been testing extremely well. It refills my hand with creatures, which is very important to any weenie aggro deck. Not sure why you would consider Conquistadors he pulls as 'dead weight'. I also do not want graveyard hate, as Dusk / Dawn brings all of my creatures back from the graveyard to my hand. Why in the world would I want to exile them?
September 18, 2017 4:45 p.m.
I might add Gideon's Defeat to the SB since mardu vehicles is a thing that is still strong after rotation. During testing, he has been a particular annoyance.
September 18, 2017 5:26 p.m.
Trust me, you want Legion's Landing over Legion Conquistador . Yes, you're refilling your hand with creatures, but they're all 3-mana 2/2's, which might as well be 1/1's by the time you can put them all on the board. Using those spots over another payoff card makes no sense. Legion's Landing gets you your first vampire for 1 mana, which gives you something to do turn 1. When it flips, which it should by turn 4, you can spend 3 mana for another body as many times as you want, or, if your hand isn't terrible, it ramps you 1 mana.
September 18, 2017 6:15 p.m.
triproberts12 - I appreciate the advice but I've already tested with Legion's Landing and it did not make the cut. Legion Conquistador tested incredibly well in this deck. Don't get me wrong, I think Legion's Landing is a great card and I'm sure I will be making use of it somewhere... just not in this deck :)
September 18, 2017 6:33 p.m.
Blanco Diablo!!!! Looks brutal- well done.
September 20, 2017 3:08 p.m.
After playing your deck versus my deck a couple times, I learned a couple things about it and I want to thank you for that. +1 from me.
However, I have to ask, why 4 Aethersphere Harvesters? Flying is great, but I don't think you need 4 of them. They get really cloggy in multiples and a lot of times you want to play basically anything else (Not Duskborne Skymarcher though. Harvester is strictly an upgrade) as opposed to it.
Not sure how I feel about Oketra in this build.
September 21, 2017 1:07 a.m.
MangaVentFreak13 - I initially had 3 Harvesters and 2 Walk the planks but after testing against control and mardu vehicles, I found that the harvesters were my strongest plays. Having multiple on the board essentially gives all creatures haste and life gain, and even tokens crew it. Oketra wasn't in the original package either, but she synergized so damn well and I needed something with indestructible to deal with other gods. She is also a great dinosaur blocker.
September 21, 2017 3:27 a.m.
Even though you don't want to play creatures with power 3 or greater, I feel like Sanctum Seeker is something you can't leave out. It really can close out games.
September 23, 2017 3:18 p.m.
Don't forget that Sengir Vampire is still standard legal as it is part of the Welcome 2017 deck! That might be a good addition, particularly because it flies. The Ixilan vamps are largely and annoyingly ground-based...
I would also add 2x Ifnir Deadlands. That card has proven itself quite useful. Getting a couple of -1/-1 counters on a creature can really slow down an opponent.
September 24, 2017 10:56 a.m.
I like the changes! I'm still curious, though, why Bishop of the Bloodstained over Sanctum Seeker? I don't want to say it's "strictly better," but with the exception of very rare corner cases, it's strictly better. And why 3x Oketra (good addition, btw, didn't even think of that one), but only 2x Mavren? You can suicide an extra Mavren into a messy board state and get value, but multiple Oketras really don't stack well...
September 24, 2017 12:13 p.m.
Earlier, I forgot to mention that Metallic Mimic might also be a good addition. I get that it could be hard to get into the deck, but it might add value as it can get counters on even the tokens. Just a thought!
September 24, 2017 1:19 p.m.
Ah, right, just read your description. Now I see why no Metallic Mimic. I stand by Sengir Vampire, though. If you only have a one creature that could be affected by Dusk / Dawn, then the chances of hitting it with Dusk / Dawn are pretty low. Having a 4/4 flier with the ability to pick up counters, though, is pretty good.
September 24, 2017 1:24 p.m.
I feel aethersphere harvester is kind of random if you really want a vehicle Uthe the 2/10 that transforms. And you might want to run some of the cards that generate vampire tokens
September 24, 2017 9:03 p.m.
Leon9358 - Thanks for the feedback but the Aethersphere Harvester is anything but random. Much thought and testing went into selecting that vehicle. Crew 1, lifelink, flying, 5 toughness, are all things that are important to the success of this deck. Oketra puts out tokens (even though they are not vampires) that crew the vehicle in a pinch, and unlike other token generators she is a 3/6 double-strike indestructible threat. If you doubt the efficiency of it, please test against the deck of your choice and see how it performs.
September 24, 2017 9:48 p.m.
I know it's all about the weenies but 2x Sanctum Seeker could be a great mid to late game bomb.
September 28, 2017 11:59 p.m.
I would runat least a 2 of Legion's Landing Flip over Duskborne Skymarcher. The ability to keep the pressure on is critical for agro decks if they get pushed to mid game. I would also use something like Costly Plunder to keep you hand loaded for the same reason. You could remove 1 oketra, both yahenni, and 1 harvester for a playset of some draw. The digging will help compensate.
Im a huge fan of God-Pharaoh's Gift in these weenie decks as a solution for mid and late games. A 2 of goes a long way in solving the problem of gasing out later on, and would still allow you to pump out tokens with landing.
November 24, 2017 5:47 a.m.
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This deck is Standard legal.
|Tokens||1/1 Warrior, 2/2 Vampire|
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