Are you a troll? Do you wish your games of EDH would last forever? Do the moans and groans of your closest friends, random people, and jerks at the game store bring you unbridled joy? Then look no further than this deck. "Wait, What?" is exactly the deck youve been looking for. This deck wins by not winning, and when it doesn't win, you lose knowing everyone on the board hates you. Let me take you on a little tour of Norin's world...
"Roses are blue, Violets are dead, I countered your spell, And I'm playing red."
Countering with Red: You have Fork , Reverberate , Wild Ricochet , Radiate , Reiterate , Red Elemental Blast , & Pyroblast . These spells are clutch utility. These are your dupes, your counters, & a win con. And yes, the blasts are main borads... occasionally they are dead cards, but, when you go head to head witha blue layer, hes no expecting to counter his counter/win combo. Don't be so quick to use these spells early game, hang on and make these guys count... we don't have any recurrsion in this here deck!
"Creatures? Creatures!? We don't need no stinking creatures!"
Norin's Creature club: Norin doesn't roll deep, but we roll's with a few solid bro's that are with him though thick and thin... mostly.
Archwing Dragon usually comes over to Norin's place angry as hell, sometimes he punches the neighbors, but usually he just comes over drops off a friend and leaves. He's got a stressful job, but he's cool. He doesn't really mean what he says.
Goblin Welder is forever losing peoples things, seriously. Everyones. But, it seems like everytime he loses one thing he finds another thing he lost before, so its hard to stay mad at him for long. It just sucks when he loses one of your neighbors super exspensive toys and hads them a rock in return... they really don't like that.
Bearer of the Heavens IGreat guy when hes not black out drunk... he just wrecks EVERYTHING if he is. Sheesh.
Hamletback Goliath Norin can't drive. So He usually hitches a ride on Ol' Hamgo's back here. It's a great relationship, every time Norin comes over for a ride, Hamgo gets even more beefed up.
Purphoros, God of the Forge Is the most solid bro Norin knows. I mean seriously. Dude is a hulk. I mean half the time he's there, but not really theres, but every time Norin comes back to the house he beast modes all the jerk neighbors in the face and Norin is in an out A LOT.
So, Norin has been pretty stagnant of the past year or so... So I decided it was time for a facelift!
I read through all of your comments and reassessed what was going on my deck... I decided to give the deck a little more "focus" if you will.
We've added more ETB effects (Goblin Assassin & In the Web of War ), added some red counterspells (Red Elemental Blast & Pyroblast ), added in more chaos effects (Possibility Storm ), and dumped a few cards that i really loved but just weren't adding anything (So long Final Fortune & Fiery Gambit ).
Price point on the deck didn't really move so that good. But with these few changes here, Norin is still annoying as ever but a bit more deadly... Can't wait to see what will happen now.
Thanks again for everyones help and let me know how your trollin decks are rollin!
Other creature and control spell changes occurred but I don't feel like listing them all (but I will thank BossLeiser for the Archwing Dragon suggestion). The deck should be slightly more competitive now, but still just as chaotic and fun!
Changed about 8 or so cards that fit a lil bit better with the flavor of the deck. Should make for a more fun game. I will say that this deck RARELY wins... but it sure is a hell of a lot of fun.
And pretty cheap for an EDH deck if I may say so.
Also Furnace of Rath is back in. Bring the pain.
Dude, seriously?! Hands down one of the coolest decks I've ever seen. +1 Man, I'm a completely Blue player, but I love it. Haha.
Just saw your deck. I love your creature selection! Very smart usage of Warstorm Surge and Pandemonium damage. Furnace of Rath seems dangerous to me though.
Thanks for the compliments guys.
@bstevens00 it is way fun and for the most part pretty cheap to build. I way recommend Norin as a general.
@ckrono yeah, furnace is a wild card in every sense of the word and it's probably going to bite me in the ass every now and again... but it so fits the flavor of the deck. That and I had that card available. I could probably stand to add another sacrifice outlet instead of furnace.
Tooth and Claw is awesome! Damn magic sure has its treasures! This is why I love EDH.
Dude, isn't it? I think its going to have to go in.
Damn. Now I'm gonna have another dilemma on thinking what to cut. :(
Wow, Mono red burn in EDH. This deck is Awesome! +1 all the way!
Ball Lightning might be fun to run in here as well. Quick 6 damage and all
Thank you much! I considered ball lightning but it didn't have quite enough utility, so I went with hellspark instead. It works just a tad better.
+1 Man. At first I was a little confused as to the nature of Goblin Game but it makes sense now.
Dirty little fun deck for sure.
I saw that you have Norin as your commander and had to respond. I too have a Norin deck, and the chaos generated by him in an edh game is great.This deck is pretty similar to mine. Only difference is that I have more mana rocks.
Good stuff homie.
Thanks yo! My friends forbid me to play Norin because they hate him... but hes my favorite and I sneak him on the board everynow and again.
wait. a Norin deck with Confusion in the Ranks but no Genesis Chamber ? =(
It was sacked! I will probably add it back in, but im trying a new build with out. We will see how it goes, but i am sure i may end up tossing it back in :)
This deck is absolutely amazing! +1
I agree with Eleshblade in that this deck needs Scrambleverse . I think it is more chaotic than some of the other permanent swapping cards you have because some people end up with more than others and such. So i think it would be better in the mainboard than sideboard. Still an amazing deck. I might have to make something like this....
Oh my god. Goblin Cadets ? I have never seen this flippin' card in my life and it is amazing.
I seriously think this may be my new favorite card. I going to the game store like now to see if that have that in stock and replacing a card in my deck with that... TODAY.
THANK YOU. +1 to one of you decks, sir.
ALL THESE PEOPLE POSTING AWESOME IDEAS FOR ME. Both of you are added to my friends list. I am find awesome cards for your decks now.
You, my good sir, are playing edh the way it was meant to be played. I've seen WAY too many heavy control edh decks that just try to win while shutting everyone else down. They can go sit on a cactus.
This deck is a shining example of fun and glory! +1 to you, your face, your descendants, and your deck.
if you want to slow things down why dont you run Winter Orb ?
hahah thank you.
I was running Winter Orb but it was just not fun for me and it did nothing but frustrate everyone else on the board... so I took it out for thier sake... but I still have it ready to go in at any time.
I really love this deck, but I was wonderring how fast it is. I'd like to make one very similar, but my friends run fairly fast decks. Is there any way to make this deck faster so I don't get killed before casting a good chaotic spell?
This deck isn't very fast. It's also very under the radar. This deck doesn't really attract much hate, by the time you start to get hated on, its already screwed the board up so much there's not to much anyone can do about it. At least that is my experience in my meta.
Making this faster? I dunno, I mean, Norin will always come out on turn one. I know there are other red creatures who have when a creature enters the battlefield affects that you may be able to throw in. You could always throw in Scrambleverse (which I may do as well) so you can have another chaos effect, but you will always have some card to start making the game interesting in your first hand. You usually want to wait a few turns to make sure there are another permanents on the board to sufficiently screw your opponents.
I never really designed this deck to be all that competitive and I don't usually play to win... but it is really fun. At any rate, hope that helps!
You should add Archwing Dragon to this deck; it would be right at home.
Dude. Yes. I need to keep up with new sets. That's totally in. Thank you!
Electropotence ? Annnnnnd Gratuitous Violence may be a replacement for Furnace of Rath as it limits the damage-doubling effect to creatures only? (Warstorm Surge and Electropotence both specify that the creature is the source of the damage.)
I made my own mono red burn though I went with Heartless Hidetsugu instead. deck:how-big-is-your-fwoosh Any thoughts would be appreciated.
Thanks for the comments. I tried Electropotence before, i didn't like it. Never seemed to has 2R open when I needed to use it... plus using 2R to do one damage each time for Norin just wasn't worth it. Gratuitous Violence won't work this because there is literally no combat damage coming from this deck... it is very rare you will see me swinging with this deck... Furnace of Rath just makes the game more deadly. Its fun!
I'll take a look at your decks and see if I can think anything up.
You don't have to swing. It doesn't say "combat damage" it says creature damage. Meaning Warstorm Surge will deal double damage.
OH. Fart. I am stupid. You are awesome. I misread all the words. That is a great call. Done.
OMG!!! We have VERY similar decks lmao!! I will say that Trading Post and the land that makes and sacs goats (I cannot remember the name... something about a pasture I think) are amazing in my Norin deck! Unless of course you have Blood Moon out lol. Also Crucible of Worlds is another great card for after you have blown up lands. +1 from me and GREAT deck! Maybe one day I will put my version up but it honestly is only maybe 10-15 cards different without actually counting lol.
I did have Blood Moon in but it kept screwing me over, so I dropped that ish. Crucible of Worlds is a card I never wold have thought to put in but can see it would be great. Too bad it costs like 20 dollars cause I am flat broke right now!
I appreciate the help! Thanks! Put a copy of yours up so I can check it out!
First of all, WTF!!! I checked this deck like not even a month ago and it had about 300 views?!?!?!?!?
Can't +1 again... lol just awsome
Worldslayer was always a thought... but I honestly rarely attack creatures in this deck. Its just not made to really attack, I mean it can... but it does not it reliably... that's why Worldslayer isn't in.
Chandra would be great... I have have no idea what I would pull at this point. I have changed so much since I first started this deck and I really like where it is now.
Also yeah. Deckcycle every day man! Get them views up!
looooolz love the deck +1 from me and +1 to HoneyBadger's comment (#22) quite possibly the best comment ever :P i will steal this comment and use it many times.
I played with a deck very similar to this one. I would lay down my awesome artifacts and enchantments and my play group would blow them up. I would suggest putting in cards like Crystal Chimes , Skull of Orm and Buried Ruin . Also cards like Reforge the Soul , Wheel of Fate , Memory Jar , and card:Teferi's Puzzle Box help you find the good enchantments you want like Confusion in the Ranks .
This is absolutely amazing. I made a chaos deck for planechase and casual magic, but the fact that you were able to do it with 100 cards is simply amazing. You sir are a god among men. +1
Thanks for all the comments dudes (and Dudettes if there are any)!
card:Teferi's Puzzle Box Is awesome, never even thought about that one! That may have to slide its way in...
Storm Cauldron is also awesome... so many awesome cards and no room.
What should I take out!
Also, in regards to card:Krark's Thumb: I know. I know. I know. It should be in there, but the deck isn't really reliant on the coin flips and that is the ONLY reason that card isn't in there. I have a playset and I want to put it in but I just feel like it'll never pay for itself.
Hey, commonhumans! I really love your deck idea. Pure chaotic fun is what I'm looking for too. Ain't no rewards for winning at EDH anyway. So here's my two cents. Goblin game has got to go. I would be laughed off the table if I played that in the local games/card/comic book shops. It's strictly to be used in domestic situations. More importantly, Worldfire has been banned since Sept. Also, you say that Norin combines with your enchantment ETB effects, but you're only playing three out of thirteen. How about Goblin Assassin , Hamletback Goliath , Blasting Station , or Minion Reflector ? I've included a Chaosphere and a Wand of Ith to add to my deck's randomness. Okay, that's it. Have fun storming the castle!
@Kristoff - Yo! Appreciate it! I have actually removed worldfire but I just havent updated it... and everyone hates goblin game (including the gamestore - but they never kicked me out!). So it stays. This deck is not built to win, its built to infuriate.
But I do like the suggestions! I'll see if I can work some in!
@commonhumans you told me to put up a copy of my deck many moons ago... Well my lazy self finally did :P The Deck Everybody Hates - (Norin the Wary). They are very similar like I said with just a few changes. However like you told him Goblin Game is an amazingly hilarious card!! I have won 2 games because of it lol. My favorite card is Grip of Chaos though. NOBODY likes to see that come down. We actually have a catch phrase for when I play this deck with Heat Stroke . I have to yell out, "It's getting hot in this b****!!!" haha
Mono-red EDH is always a winner in my book (+1), Vigilante Justice will give you 1 damage every time Norin enters the battlefield. If you have time please check out my mono-red burn deck Ashling's Apocalypse.
Building a Norin deck myself and this is a big help! (+1)I have to suggest tossing in Flailing Soldier , my personal favorite card and great for any casual red edh!
I'm extremely surprised to not see this suggestions yet, but I think it would fit nicely with your theme:) Possibility Storm
If there is a Hell this deck has secured you a special place there.
A place where all your hopes and dreams are taken from you, and all you can do is stand motionless and watch.
+ since you can get rid of your creatures quickly. Love the deck though--thinking about making a similar one but with not as much lock down....
Dude check out my 5-color chaos deck U MAD BRO? (the ULTIMATE trolling deck) if u wanna see some suggestions.+1 I was born a chaos player, and is gonna die a chaos player! :D
Molten Influence is a red counter not limited to blue, or 4 damage for 2 mana.
Knowledge Pool adds an interesting and confusing element to the game. It's like thieves' auction for spell casts all game long. Wanna steal that giant creature for a 1 mana instant? Go ahead. Also makes counters a lot more difficult...
@Slothery Thanks for the suggestions!... I do like Knowledge Pool , but I have no idea what i would drop at this point to make room for that, I just swapped out 12 cards and I think i have it where i want it. Molten Influence is cool, but in a game wiht 40 life and a casting a combo thats about to win you the game... 4 life is nothing, so it would never pay off.
This deck looks so fun to play as, but a nightmare to play against...
Have a +1. I looked for things to suggest but I could't really find anything. Perhaps some infinite combos would do you some good?
@Thesaman Thanks for the suggestion! Infinite combo would be nice, I could cut Tooth and Claw for Goblin Warrens and find another cut for Mana Echoes only issue is I don't have enough goblins in this deck to reliably start the trigger.
Good point. That was only a suggestion for an infinite combo.
Also, Krenko, Mob Boss could also help you to get out a reliable force of tiny blockers.
I was hoping for a longer description. It was amazing. +1
HAhaha. I actually played a game with someone playing practically this same deck. We had a new player with a newbie R/W, a competitive standard mono-green devotion from a guy who took himself way too seriously, me, and this dude with his EDH Norin deck that he was playing with his commander shuffled in.
Needless to say it was a chaotic game. He didn't win but he made it a memorable night. Possibility storm is just so silly
+1 for fun
It was me! I'm the only Norin the Wary player out there! Muahhahah! Thanks for the compliments fellas (and fellettes) much appreciate all the love for my deck. It's my trollin' lil baby. And I'll finish. Writing a description sometime soon... Just haven't had a chance to work on it in a while!
I humbly suggest Bearer of the Heavens for this deck. What have you got to lose?
Yeah! I like him... I've seen him... What you recommend cutting if i were to add him!?
Personally I feel that both Pyroblast and Red Elemental Blast are sideboard cards because of their requirements and you can sideboard in a EDH/Commander game before the draw but after Commanders are declared (http://mtgcommander.net/rules.php) I would suggest cutting them for Bearer of the Heavens . I would also recommend cutting Mouth of Ronom and adding Darksteel Citadel for another artifact land that can be searched with Hoarding Dragon and it's indestructible so it's got that going for it whereas Mouth of Ronom is a relatively low power spot removal. Also just for kicks since you already have Timesifter might as well throw in Leveler and Glacial Chasm for a "Fuck you guys I'm out" combo, which can be in your sideboard. Also maybe Vesuva and Thespian's Stage in the sideboard for double Valakut, the Molten Pinnacle triggers. Sorry I wandered off topic.
Also recommend Dictate of the Twin Gods for either Gratuitous Violence or Furnace of Rath depending on which you feeling is more important though Gratuitous Violence has the same CMC as Dictate of the Twin Gods .
Tibalt, the Fiend-Blooded stays after the boardwipes and rummages for land and against an aggressive draw deck can kill while they are behind on lands and have no threats on the board. At least that's what I think it's for.
Thanks for all these dope suggestions! Looks like I've got a little more reworking to do! I'll have this updated ina day or two, once I order these here new fangled cards!
You should add the best red counter spell ever Mages' Contest !
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