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Any critique is welcome.This deck is a jack of all trades. I utilize Sisay's ability to adapt my playstyle to any given situation. If I manage to pull a sol ring first 2 hands I can get sisay out and pull Nykthos first to give me another land for more mana and the second tap the next turn will be karametra god of harvest. So I can get out savannah, temple garden, and canopy vista with each creature cast, building an even bigger ramp in order to play more stuff. And from there the sillyness goes bananas. This deck by far is not cheap. I'm not proud of the price tag on it. It's not perfect either compared to other decks I've seen but I have fun with it. That's the key. Fun.

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PartyJ says... #1

I would suggest the following cards for your build:

Good luck and have fun!

August 28, 2016 7:18 a.m.

Treehugger003 says... #2

Without some additional information about what you are trying to do it is a little hard to make specific recommendations but in general:

Your mana curve is really high. With your land count so low and not much ramp I would think it has a tendency to be a little hit or miss with regard to mana. Ideally you should have at least 35 lands.

I'm not sure I understand your commander choice. The construction of your deck almost begs for Karametra, God of Harvests to be your commander with her inherent land search you can get away with running fewer lands. Trostani has the lifegain going for him but the populate function I'm not sure will help you much in a normal game. 3 mana for 1 creature is eh unless its 4/4, 5/5 and you only have a couple of those in your deck.

I hope this helps some

Tree

September 6, 2016 3:28 p.m.

MegaMatt13 says... #3

Hi,

I second the suggestion to increase your land count. I would add at least 6 more including Command Tower and Temple of the False God.

I would also cut some of the 6 and 7 mana cards to make the deck run faster.

It looks like your deck is going big with stompy creatures. If you stick to that theme, Selvala, Heart of the Wilds and Selvala's Stampede from the new conspiracy 2 are great fits.

Nature's Lore, Cultivate, Kodama's Reach, Skyshroud Claim, and Explosive Vegetation are great green ramp cards that will get your creatures out faster.

September 10, 2016 11:07 p.m.

paloflimdul says... #4

Omnath, Locus of Mana can help fix your mana woes with his ability to rollover green mana...

He was always the first legend I'd fetch with Sisay. Then I'd fetch a fattie eldrazi next.

Took that deck apart after it played exactly the same almost all the time :)

September 16, 2016 8:32 p.m.

Vortexflame says... #5

For a legendary deck, you definitely want to run a Thalia's Lancers. Also, you're a little short on removal, so consider things like Swords to Plowshares, Path to Exile, and Selesnya Charm.

September 21, 2016 11:07 p.m.

robioly says... #6

Alot of people are suggesting removal cards since I play white. But I literally have 0 space for them. I'd rather destroy a creature outright in a fight than just be like end hostilities. If I want to frustrate people I'd play blue...Which I do with my Izzet deck.

November 12, 2016 10:46 p.m.

Vortexflame says... #7

A card to take out would be Sigarda, Heron's Grace. It's meant for a control shell in which a lot of instants and sorceries end up in your graveyard for you to exile, and you clearly don't have that. If you run it for the Hexproof, you could just as easily run Lightning Greaves. You should take that out and put in white removal.

November 12, 2016 11:28 p.m.

robioly says... #8

I use that particular sigarda for the hexproof on myself. That way I don't get controlled by emrakul or any effect that says target player-insert frustrating dilema here. That's the only reason I use it for because I sure don't use it for the other ability. The way I have it planned out is sigarda protects me, the other sigarda protects my other creatures from being sacced, avacyn makes everything indestructible, and asceticism protects my dudes from being targeted, and sterling groves does the same for my non creature permanents.

November 13, 2016 4:15 a.m.

Vortexflame says... #9

If that's the only reason you run it, then use the much cheaper Aegis of the Gods. Or you could run Orbs of Warding, or Leyline of Sanctity, Witchbane Orb, or Spirit of the Hearth. In other words, there are much better alternatives than Sigarda.

November 14, 2016 8:55 p.m.

robioly says... #10

Whoops. Forgot to mention I also use her because she's a legendary flyer I can search for with sisay. Can't leave myself wide open to flying attacks. Lost way too many games because of it. Haha.

November 14, 2016 9:08 p.m.

robioly says... #11

Buy I do wonder, can I use a Murmuring Bosk in this deck legally? The forest land that taps for green or pay one life and it taps for white? Sounds like a no brainer but I'm wondering because it also taps for black if I pay 1 life. I should be able to use it since it is a forest right?

November 15, 2016 10:10 a.m.

TheRedMage says... #12

Unfortunately you cannot. The color identity of Murmuring Bosk is GWB.

November 15, 2016 10:17 a.m.

robioly says... #13

But isn't color identity refering to the actual mana symbols on the cmc? I could've sworn I read somewhere that you can have land cards that does not match the color identity of the commander it would just be treated as colorless.

November 15, 2016 11:31 a.m.

robioly says... #14

Okay so ulamog the ceaseless hunger good or bad addition to this deck?

November 21, 2016 10:42 p.m.

Gleeock says... #15

I like it... Like you I run Sisay & make them chase my permanent production (Many random players say I should run more cheap removal until they play against the deck) My play group just recently faced the wrath of trying to control the ridiculous Sisay boardstate & 2 of those players were black primary loaded with various removal & destruction...It turned into a 3 vs 1 match that I still ended up winning.

Your deck has many similarities to mine, one thing I agree on above is that you probably could benefit from more lands, my deck has a lower mana curve than yours but still totals @ about 43 lands

1) Kytheon, Hero of Akros  Flip

2) Selvala, Heart of the Wilds With any beater.... but gets really out of hand with Multani, Maro-Sorcerer

3) Akroma's Memorial Unless you have a special place in your heart for Akroma replace her with this

4) Gaddock Teeg

December 11, 2016 12:19 a.m.

robioly says... #16

Gaddock Teeg will just hinder me. So will that particular selvala because it can benefit my opponent aswell. I don't want to give any help to my opponent. That's why I no longer play primal vigour because some guy alted sorin grim nemesis and ended with 150 1/1 dudes on the field and killed everyone. Lesson learned. Plus I won't trade akroma for her statue because that's why I have odric lunarch Marshall. Yes the statue gives all my creatures hee abilities but it's not a creature itself nor does it count towards devotion that I need to play nykthos. I use 35 lands which is the bare minimum for commander but since I play green I can ramp pretty well. Specially if I have nykthos, miraris wake, and vorinclex. I tried having kytheon in my deck at some point early on but I just didn't have the room for him. Sure he would be great in noncommander but his planeswalker abilities are lacking. It has no alt doesn't boost my dudes, sure it gives them indestructible til end of turn and untaps them but that's why I have heliod. Battleforged is just a diversion to force target to attack him and the just chumpblock with something else.

December 11, 2016 9:02 a.m.

Gleeock says... #17

Kytheon lets you use Sisay 2x per turn, or Selvala 2x per turn, or Yisan 2x per turn... etc

The 1 card draw for opponent is near inconsequential when you should be running the heaviest beaters anyway (depends on your meta), It is worth it when she taps for 5 mana or more

Also, Reki, History of Kamigawa has worked pretty well

Then again your deck is a little more token/overrun than mine so whatever floats your boat

December 11, 2016 4:13 p.m.

robioly says... #18

That us true now that I think about it. But still it doesn't change the fact that there's no a single card in my deck I can take out to make room for kytheon. Yeah but playing against someone who plays blue or black at any given second that extra card could spell doom. Thursday I was at a 3 man pod. Myself and the 3rd guy were using sisay. We both had avacyn out and I also had elvish piper and iona. I dropped the 2nd player to 2 life and he's playing atraxa. He pulls cyclonic rift and and then plays genesis wave. Game over right there. Yeah my deck is not strictly tokens but they can do the job. Alted ajani caller of the Pride and got 65 tokens at once.

December 11, 2016 6:27 p.m.

Gleeock says... #19

Haha... Well that's why you have Gaddock teeg out there ;) Very few mass removals can be cast for 3cmc. Usually playing blue/black they won't be playing a tough enough creature to benefit from the single card draw... They are going to be spending that kind of mana on say; Cyclonic rift for eg... If they are somehow playing something stronger than your 8/8 Avacyn AND STILL playing whatever card they get from the draw then you have MUCH bigger problems than a limited single card draw for the opponent.

Actually, if you already have Avacyn & Selvala out & Iona in your hand you can tap for 8 mana, any color & only need to eek out 1 more to cast Iona and name 'blue'... no more blue workaround all your indestructible junk. Elvish piper is superior for this type of thing in some ways but you cannot search for the piper & he only works for cheating in a creature.

Not that I care that you choose to do things differently, I just like talking Sisay & seeing different takes on it

If you ever pull a turn 5 Multani, Maro-Sorcerer turning into a 30/30 creature with shroud in a 5 player game then you wish you had Selvala in there too.

December 11, 2016 7:51 p.m.

Gleeock says... #21

Planar Bridge because searching & plopping walkers super crazy fun

April 28, 2017 11:27 p.m.

PookandPie says... #22

If your goal is to adapt the deck to different playstyles, then I have some hate bears to recommend to you:

Gaddock Teeg is first and foremost. Thalia, Heretic Cathar is also quite strong and can give you time to respond to, say, a Krenko, Mob Boss deck producing 50+ goblin tokens with haste by controlling Umbral Mantle and Goblin Warchief, that would otherwise get a swift win by killing you (they can't all swing if they enter tapped, right?). This gives you another turn you would not have normally had to board wipe, cast a creature that may stymie that plan, etc..

Kataki, War's Wage is incredible. You barely run any artifacts, and taxing specific strategies can give you a strong edge (it hurts Arcum Dagsson and Sharuum the Hegemon, Voltron strategies that use equipment, etc.).

You also have 0 instant cards (not even a Swords to Plowshares), so I see little reason to not run Dosan the Falling Leaf.

As for cuts to fit these in:

Mirri can go. She's just a beater, and you can do better than a beater. Giving her slot to Dosan or Kataki would be very beneficial for your deck.

Jareth, Leonine Titan is mediocre. Its only effective as a blocker, and you have creatures that already do that better. Thalia would be much lower in mana cost, slow down your opponents nonbasic lands, and shut off your opponent's creatures with haste. That's huge.

I also feel like you could do better than Jugan the Rising Star by slotting the other of Dosan or Kataki here: Much lower mana cost, more relevant abilities (5 +1/+1 counters isn't really that much).

That'd help lower your mana curve a little bit, as it's absurdly high right now which doesn't help the specific weaknesses this deck has against certain strategies, specifically Voltron.

June 26, 2017 10:56 p.m.

robioly says... #23

Thalia will definitely be a great addition. But honestly I have no problem with my mana curve. I ramp quite efficiently. I don't do dosan because I already have dragonlord dromoka for that. And garon teeg screws me over.

June 27, 2017 8:47 a.m.

Gleeock says... #24

  • With the advent of Turdley McLOCUSTGOD I may consider Thalia, Heretic Cathar more strongly, he may move TOO QUICK for me to wait for more costly counter strategies - Yes, Elesh does shut him up nicely, but at a 7cmc
  • The humble budget-friendly Wild Pair is pretty nutty in my Sisay deck... One particularly crippling combo was: Wild pair --> Selvala, Explorer Returned (also budget-friendly) --> Wild pair kicks in --> selvala has the same TOTAL power+toughness as....drumroll.... Seedborn Muse NOW if your opponents have no IMMEDIATE answer, on their first upkeep, you search Yeva, Nature's Herald + Wild pair kicks again + whatever 4/4 you want to play - Then the horror show truly begins... then they start having to think about whether they need to wipe your creatures or deal with wild pair.
  • Djeru, With Eyes Open will be conducive to your "fun" stipulation I think, A 4/3 beater w/ vigilance, who will ALSO allow you to toolbox some of your walkers, sounds fun to me
July 7, 2017 11:59 p.m.

robioly says... #25

No to djeru. It's a one shot. And no to wild pairs because not many of my creature share both power and toughness. 7 cmc for elesh is not a problem for me.

July 8, 2017 10:41 a.m.

Gleeock says... #26

1) Well, I would say djeru has some reasonable permanent value beyond his ETB effect (which rules), but I understand. In my deck 5cmc is underrepresented so he can fill a pretty vital slot if a game is looking like karametra will be a waste

2) & you are right that with your deck wild pair would get you less matchup value... in my setup that spell fetches MANY linchpin combos with creatures I cannot usually search at will with Sisay or fetches a high CMC creature when a lower CMC creature is played: I play Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite = Blazing Archon | Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite = Archetype of Endurance | Selvala, Explorer Returned = Seedborn Muse | Karametra, God of Harvests = Vorinclex, Voice of Hunger | Odric, Lunarch Marshal = Champion of Rhonas

So you can see how I get excited about that enchantment in terms of sheer value (& low budget to boot)... But yeah, looking at your deck I could see how it would hold quite a bit less synergy for you... One of the best fetches you would have would be Omnath, Locus of Mana = Elvish Piper

July 8, 2017 6:03 p.m.

robioly says... #27

1) karametra is an amazing card i always search for. Do you not see that I have all the dual lands that are both forests and plains?

2) i agree with Omnath and piper. I made this deck to have multiple win conditions and roadblocks. I make them work efficiently. The other day I primal surge and dumped my entire deck in 1 turn onto the battlefield and won because there's no way to stop such an unstoppable force

July 8, 2017 10:16 p.m.

Gleeock says... #28

1) I also use Karametra & certainly am not recommending removing it from your deck, I'm just saying that BOTH our decks are fairly low on searchable 5 cmc utility, I have played several games where the 5drop (usually the turn after Sisay is played) is very important & I can just see that Karametra will be a waste play. Some such games are when I was playing against Kaalia & needed a less slow-build type of card, or when my opponent had an obvious exiling card lined up & waiting for me. Djeru is so opposite of Karametra - mid/late game slow build (important for the long term) vs. immediate search & interest in short-term ETB effect. But, I will be playtesting with him plenty for funzies so I'll have to see how much fun value he actually adds to the mix. I guess my other 5 cmc powerhouse right now is Paradox Engine

2) Haha, I love it when primal surge drops in a deck like this... You have enough static lock effects that it is pretty dern unstoppable once it gets rolling.

July 8, 2017 11:30 p.m.

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