June 18, 2012 1:24 a.m.
Okay, thanks. I see the weakness in Precursor and Master Splicer is probably better, and for less mana! Are there other changes you might make if this were your deck?
June 18, 2012 1:29 a.m.
Yeah, I think it should be a sideboard card in case I face a deck with lots of flyers. The reason I don't have it in there is because it probably can't be brought back with Reveillark and Master Splicer can. And Master Splicer is for less mana while synergizing well with Blade Splicer . I agree that it could be incredibly powerful in this and I will definitely test it tho. It's a really good idea. In late game it could become huge! Especially if I get the Stonehorn Combo going! Haha, hm, the more I think about this, the better it gets. Playtesting required I guess. Thanks for the helpful input!
June 19, 2012 1:09 a.m.
June 23, 2012 2:13 a.m.
I agree with Krotash. Sun titan costs only one more mana, it has n ENTERS THE BATTLEFIELD (hint, hint) trigger, and its target can include blade splicer, Fiend Hunter, or Wall of Omens. Also, no Captain of the Watch ? It makes three tokens when it etb, and it makes them 2/2's.
June 23, 2012 2:52 a.m.
Yeah, I've been playtesting with Wing Splicer and it is definitely better because it adds evasion and because this deck is vulnerable to flying. I just have to change it on here. Hmm, the Sun Titan and Reveillark choice is a tough one. I like Reveillark because I get TWO creatures back but that only happens when it leaves the battlefield. It is ridiculously good sometimes. Also, it's flying, which is nice. Sun Titan is good cause it's an ETB effect and a big bro. What combination of Sun Titan and Reveillark would you guys play? And YES PLEASE on Captain of the Watch , I just didn't know I was able to add it yet! Ooo that's nice
June 23, 2012 1:34 p.m.
Ok, back to this deck. One thing you ought to consider when chosing between Sun Titan or Reveillark is: Reveillark may bring back several of your creatures, Sun Titan can't, since only a few of them are low CMC.
BUT: Sun Titan doesn't need to blink to get his effect. Also, Sun Titan returns target PERMANENT.
Also Contagion Engine doesn't appeal to me, since you don't have any counter creators besides Contagion itself. I'd replace it for Ratchet Bomb s or something else that let's you wipe conditional boards. Remember that with this deck you can rework your tokens in with blinking, while your opponent may find it harder to do.
At the end, I'd do the following changes:
And this one:
June 23, 2012 3:13 p.m.
Wow, thanks for the awesome feedback Sveniac!
Good thoughts on Contagion Engine . Good thing about it though is that it can be re-used as a one sided board wipe. I see the argument for Ratchet Bomb however and it is equally if not more appealing. Especially in Aggro situtations coming off the sideboard. Ratchet Bomb is for sure better in that situation.
I really like the maindeck alterations you've made. Getting rid of four 5 mana things for four 2 or 3 mana things is always going to be positive. The ONLY downside I see is that breakup of a potential card:Conjurer's Closet + Stonehorn Dignitary combo. But I guess when you have so many blinking instants then you could essentially re-create that combo.
If you ever need a look at any of your decks let me know and I'll provide some feedback for you!
June 23, 2012 5:27 p.m.
I decided on one Snapcaster Mage because it combos well with Venser. I can have it re-enter and give a Ghostly Flicker flashback. Which i can then use on Stonehorn AND another creature. Plus, if I were to cast a Snapcaster on a Cloudshift , I may as well just have Ghostly Flicker instead
June 23, 2012 5:42 p.m.
I used it for a while but I've found the 5 mana is a bit cumbersome and adding Ghostly Flicker s in its place (as suggested by Sveniac) and it works better because you can get the same effect as Conjurer's Closet while providing instant speed.
June 24, 2012 2:09 a.m.
I could see this running a few more control elements. Some main board Oblivion Ring s for sure, and maybe some Vapor Snag s and Mana Leak s. Really this deck runs on controlling an opponent until you either hit venser final or you have an overwhelming board presence.
June 24, 2012 2:18 a.m.
I could see myself sideboarding mana leak, but the main control element is Stonehorn Dignitary . 90% of decks will try to attack to get rid of my life and if they can't attack who really cares if they have a flipped delver with two swords of war an peace on it?
An important thing to note is that Stonehorn's ability stacks. So that means if I cast it, and then Cloudshift it, then they miss two attack phases. I've had it before where I've forced someone to miss 4 phases on one turn! With all that time I can get enough creatures out and a Venser to make them all unblockable
June 24, 2012 2:38 a.m.
November 17, 2015 1:11 p.m.
I really like this deck! I play an Emeria Titan deck, so I guess I'm a little biased. Sun Titan is a massive part of my deck, but here I feel that Reveillark is probably slightly better. With Titan, you're limited to cmc 3 or less while with Reveillark I feel you get more out of it to help finish the game.
Have you ever considered Court Hussar? I understand that it doesn't make creatures, but it's basically an Anticipate with a vigilance body that you can flicker to dig through the top of your library. I've found it extremely powerful in my flicker deck, and my friends even joke that once I start flickering the Hussar they think about conceding as I fix the draw for exactly what I need.
November 17, 2016 1:48 a.m.
Maybe frost titan? With venser and other flicker effects, it's real quick to lock down an opponent's side?
December 10, 2016 9:09 p.m.
Ghostway can save your field from removal or make your wipes one sided with the added benifit of retriggering ETB. With a Archaeomancer or similar creature you can get your Ghostway back each time. Eldrazi Displacer is a good 1 of that can tap down their creatures for control, or let you flick your own.
July 16, 2017 6:47 p.m.
Wall of Omens & Sun Titan is a load of B.S. That a local guy plays in his custom Gideon deck. It makes me want to pull my hair out when I'm playing aggro because of the card advantage & the walls are a solid turn 2 blocker that is out of bolt range and shields his planeswalkers from my early game small dudes.
July 16, 2017 6:51 p.m.
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|Date added||5 years|
|Last updated||3 years|
This deck is Modern legal.
|Tokens||1/1 Soldier, 3/3 Golem|
|Folders||DECK, Ideas, Modern decks, Strong Decks I Own, Venser, misc, Interesting Modern, Control|
|Top rank||#8 on 2012-06-26|