Venser, the So-Abusive

Modern Combo Infinite Combo Tokens

Frampypants Score: 9


Description

Basically a deck that tries to win by using powerful Enters the Battlefield abilities which are abused with Venser, Cloudshift, and Ghostly Flicker.

Fiend Hunter can be used to permanently exile creatures when used in combo with Cloudshift

Reveillark can keep bringing back most of my deck

Stonehorn Dignitary can lock them out of attack phases. And the effect stacks. So, if you play it from hand then blink it in one turn your opponent misses two attack phases.

Wall of Omens and Knight of the White Orchid provide sufficient early game defence and mana ramp/upkeep. Very effective cards I've found

Blade Splicer is obviously and 3 drop star and combined with flying from Wing Splicer you have a win condition!

Captain of the Watch doesn't even have to be explained... .so many soldiers to be made unblockable by Venser.

There are lots of other awesome combos which is why i like this deck. I'M SURE IT CAN BE IMPROVED tho, so let me know what you think! Thanks!

        --------Comments and +1's are very welcome!----------

Sveniac says... #1

Take off Precursor Golem . If anyone uses Lightning Bolt or Lava Spike or any other kind of removal in a Golem of yours while Precursor is on the field, you will lose every single Golem you have.

You might want to replace it for Master Splicer or other token generators like Captain of the Watch .

June 18, 2012 1:24 a.m.

Frampypants says... #2

Okay, thanks. I see the weakness in Precursor and Master Splicer is probably better, and for less mana! Are there other changes you might make if this were your deck?

June 18, 2012 1:29 a.m.

shakemilkyway says... #3

you think about the Geist-Honored Monk ?

June 18, 2012 6:50 a.m.

Frampypants says... #4

Yeah, I think it should be a sideboard card in case I face a deck with lots of flyers. The reason I don't have it in there is because it probably can't be brought back with Reveillark and Master Splicer can. And Master Splicer is for less mana while synergizing well with Blade Splicer . I agree that it could be incredibly powerful in this and I will definitely test it tho. It's a really good idea. In late game it could become huge! Especially if I get the Stonehorn Combo going! Haha, hm, the more I think about this, the better it gets. Playtesting required I guess. Thanks for the helpful input!

June 19, 2012 1:09 a.m.

krotash says... #5

You could get Wing Splicer . Also, I've always wondered how the fiend hunter/cloudshift combo works. I think green would work well in here. Also, Sun Titan works a lot like Reveillark .

June 23, 2012 2:13 a.m.

Lonethief says... #6

I agree with Krotash. Sun titan costs only one more mana, it has n ENTERS THE BATTLEFIELD (hint, hint) trigger, and its target can include blade splicer, Fiend Hunter, or Wall of Omens. Also, no Captain of the Watch ? It makes three tokens when it etb, and it makes them 2/2's.

June 23, 2012 2:52 a.m.

Frampypants says... #7

Yeah, I've been playtesting with Wing Splicer and it is definitely better because it adds evasion and because this deck is vulnerable to flying. I just have to change it on here. Hmm, the Sun Titan and Reveillark choice is a tough one. I like Reveillark because I get TWO creatures back but that only happens when it leaves the battlefield. It is ridiculously good sometimes. Also, it's flying, which is nice. Sun Titan is good cause it's an ETB effect and a big bro. What combination of Sun Titan and Reveillark would you guys play? And YES PLEASE on Captain of the Watch , I just didn't know I was able to add it yet! Ooo that's nice

June 23, 2012 1:34 p.m.

Frampypants says... #8

Also, any thought of Contagion Engine ?

June 23, 2012 1:44 p.m.

Sveniac says... #9

Ok, back to this deck. One thing you ought to consider when chosing between Sun Titan or Reveillark is: Reveillark may bring back several of your creatures, Sun Titan can't, since only a few of them are low CMC.

BUT: Sun Titan doesn't need to blink to get his effect. Also, Sun Titan returns target PERMANENT.

Honestly, Reveillark > Sun Titan for this deck, if you maintain your actual formation.

Also Contagion Engine doesn't appeal to me, since you don't have any counter creators besides Contagion itself. I'd replace it for Ratchet Bomb s or something else that let's you wipe conditional boards. Remember that with this deck you can rework your tokens in with blinking, while your opponent may find it harder to do.

Another thing, with so many enter the battle and leave the battle effects, I'd probably add 4 Ghostly Flicker and consider at LEAST one Snapcaster Mage .

At the end, I'd do the following changes:

-2x Contagion Engine for +2xDay of Judgment or +2xRatchet Bomb

And this one:

-2x card:Conjurer's Closet for +2xGhostly Flicker -2xMulldrifter for +2xSnapcaster Mage or +1xGhostly Flicker +1xSnapcaster Mage

June 23, 2012 3:13 p.m.

Frampypants says... #10

Wow, thanks for the awesome feedback Sveniac!

Regarding Sun Titan and Reveillark I think that if I were to alter my deck to your suggestions at the bottom then it would definitely be Reveillark because a lot of non-permanents are added.

Good thoughts on Contagion Engine . Good thing about it though is that it can be re-used as a one sided board wipe. I see the argument for Ratchet Bomb however and it is equally if not more appealing. Especially in Aggro situtations coming off the sideboard. Ratchet Bomb is for sure better in that situation.

I really like the maindeck alterations you've made. Getting rid of four 5 mana things for four 2 or 3 mana things is always going to be positive. The ONLY downside I see is that breakup of a potential card:Conjurer's Closet + Stonehorn Dignitary combo. But I guess when you have so many blinking instants then you could essentially re-create that combo.

If you ever need a look at any of your decks let me know and I'll provide some feedback for you!

June 23, 2012 5:27 p.m.

Frampypants says... #11

I decided on one Snapcaster Mage because it combos well with Venser. I can have it re-enter and give a Ghostly Flicker flashback. Which i can then use on Stonehorn AND another creature. Plus, if I were to cast a Snapcaster on a Cloudshift , I may as well just have Ghostly Flicker instead

June 23, 2012 5:42 p.m.

Frampypants says... #12

Two was too many is sort of what I meant to say

June 23, 2012 9:11 p.m.

Kooshaza says... #13

card:Conjurer's Closet.

June 23, 2012 11:38 p.m.

Frampypants says... #14

I used it for a while but I've found the 5 mana is a bit cumbersome and adding Ghostly Flicker s in its place (as suggested by Sveniac) and it works better because you can get the same effect as Conjurer's Closet while providing instant speed.

June 24, 2012 2:09 a.m.

krotash says... #15

I could see this running a few more control elements. Some main board Oblivion Ring s for sure, and maybe some Vapor Snag s and Mana Leak s. Really this deck runs on controlling an opponent until you either hit venser final or you have an overwhelming board presence.

June 24, 2012 2:18 a.m.

Frampypants says... #16

Yeah, I've thought about maindecking Oblivion Ring over Fiend Hunter . It's a tough choice because O-ring is nice with Venser, but Fiend Hunter is good with Cloudshift and Reveillark .

I could see myself sideboarding mana leak, but the main control element is Stonehorn Dignitary . 90% of decks will try to attack to get rid of my life and if they can't attack who really cares if they have a flipped delver with two swords of war an peace on it?

An important thing to note is that Stonehorn's ability stacks. So that means if I cast it, and then Cloudshift it, then they miss two attack phases. I've had it before where I've forced someone to miss 4 phases on one turn! With all that time I can get enough creatures out and a Venser to make them all unblockable

June 24, 2012 2:38 a.m.

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Legality

This deck is Modern legal.

Cards 63
Avg. CMC 3.25
Folders DECK, Ideas, Modern decks, Strong Decks I Own, Venser
Top rank #8 on 2012-06-26