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U/R Riddle Drake (Ixalan Standard $30 Budget Deck)

Standard Budget Burn Tempo U/R (Izzet)



Sorcery (2)

Land (4)

Enchantment (2)

Creature (4)


Hey guys! I love the idea of this deck but I need some help with possible cards to play and the different numbers of copies of cards (ie lightning strike vs abrade vs shock) so any help is appreciated! Thanks!

Also this is what I currently have built in paper. I would love to upgrade the deck, and those cards are listed in the acquire list at the moment. Any thoughts on how to upgrade the deck I would appreciate! Thanks for taking the time with your input, and +1 votes if you like the deck!




ironeyes says... #1

Search for Azcanta could work for you here. Filters your draws and fills up the graveyard to power up your drakes, and then flips into a reusable Supreme Will to find the noncreature spells you want. I'd slot it in place of Vance's Blasting Cannons and move the Cannons to the side board.

October 4, 2017 10:22 a.m.

JTetris11 says... #2

ironeyes ok cool I could see that. So in that case what would Vance's Blasting Cannons come in against? I guess I am trying to learn the meta game and match ups of standard. I've been out of the loop a while.

October 4, 2017 5:38 p.m.

ironeyes says... #3

Once you flip it into Spitfire Bastion, Vance's Blasting Cannons works really well against forms of control that keep wiping out your creatures with Fatal Push or Fumigate. It give you the opportunity to win by direct damage alone, and as an added upside, the burn ability is even a lot harder to stop with counter spells than Lightning Strike and Shock are.

October 4, 2017 10:31 p.m.

JTetris11 says... #4

Ok great. Thanks for taking the time I appreciate it!

October 4, 2017 10:53 p.m.

JTetris11 says... #5

Ok so I have updated the deck to reflect what I currently have built in paper. Obviously I would love to upgrade the deck, but I needed to start somewhere with budget restrictions. My question is, what will be the most crucial upgrade first? Search for Azcanta, Soul-Scar Mage, or Spirebluff Canal? Or another card not in this list? Thoughts and ideas please! Thanks!

October 5, 2017 11:24 p.m.

Sinrad says... #6

Hey i have been trying out this deck on mtgo just to see played and won 10/14.i made some changes mostly to the lands, running 4 ramunap ruins, 4 sunscorched deserts and 2 highland lake (i didn't have money for spirebluff). Other than that i ran the same list as you. my sideboard was 2spell pierce, 2essence scatter, 2 negate, 3 tormenting voice, 2 vance' blasting cannons and lastly i ended up adding 4 fiery cannonade. now the reason for this was that i found the match up vs. w or w/b tokens really really hard basicly almost unplayable, (3 of my 4 L was against tokens). I am considering if i should run blazing volley instead. Over all i would say for the price this deck packs a punch, and it is pretty fun to play with, so well done.

October 8, 2017 6:32 a.m.

JTetris11 says... #7

Sinrad dude that's awesome! I'm glad to hear it's been playing well for you and I'm glad you like the deck! Ya I had no idea where to begin with mana bases (Been out of standard for a long time) so that is pretty helpful actually.

I appreciate the feedback, and I'll have to look at that sideboard deck further since I don't have one built yet. This is why Tappedout is awesome!

October 8, 2017 10:27 a.m.

SpremePhantasm says... #8

How to you think about Cryptic Serphen? Instead of Running 4 Unsummon, I run 2-3 Cathartic Reunion because they fill the Graveyard extremely fast, sometime I also add 2-4 Strategic Planning as well to fill.

October 8, 2017 10:33 p.m.

BFG says... #9

JTetris11, if you had to choose between Spirebluffs or Azcanta, I would say go with Azcanta. Yes yes, the fast lands are amazing (Got my playsets before price jumps on MTGO) but I think Azcanta will help you more in the long run. Being only 2 colors mean less necessity for duals; they only smooth your draws. I'm NOT saying it replaces the need for them but you aren't punished as hard. Coming from a UW approach player (since before it was cool if I might add), Azcanta has more than proven itself as a staple for spells decks!

October 12, 2017 7:27 p.m.

Furani says... #10

hey, just somthing that might help. Saw this a while back.

October 13, 2017 5:36 p.m.

Furani says... #11


October 13, 2017 5:37 p.m.

JTetris11 says... #12

So I think for sure I need to be playing like at least 3 Ramunap Ruins correct? Or 4? Super budget but great... Thoughts? By the way thanks the feedback from everyone so far!

October 14, 2017 5:57 p.m.

JTetris11 says... #13

SpremePhantasm I think Cryptic Serpent looks awesome but at most 3 copies, probably just 2 right? and Unsummon has been like stinking awesome since it is such a strong tempo play. Since I am playing the Firebrand Archers I kind of want to play my spells rather than just having them in the graveyard. Same with Riddleform. So I don't think Strategic Planning is where I want to be, especially at sorcery speed. Cathartic Reunion could be awesome, not sure how to cut for that though. Maybe cut the Censors? Thoughts from anyone are appreciated!

October 14, 2017 6:03 p.m.

JTetris11 says... #14

Furani Oh how awesome Fevered Visions would be! Thanks for the heads up, I just love U/R spells matter decks so much.

October 14, 2017 6:04 p.m.

Agent_Fire says... #15

I think Bloodwater Entity would be a good care for this deck

October 15, 2017 10:17 a.m.

Tumnus says... #16

I would suggest cutting Censor as I find it just doesn't play well with Riddleform. Supreme Will is a bit better as you can cast it during your turn to dig and activate our sphinx friend. I also find the biggest problem with low numbers of creatures like this is when our opponent has tons of removal, so i've been playing Siren Stormtamer to offset this. Here's my take if you're interested:R/U Riddleform Tempo. I love this style of deck tho, lots of fun to play.

October 15, 2017 9:46 p.m.

PickleNutz says... #17

Spell Pierce is a better option than Censor isn't it? It's a very budget friendly card too.

October 17, 2017 1:48 a.m.

PickleNutz says... #18

I've been playing a similar theme to this that isn't really a budget deck, if you want to check it out. I have been looking for help, so please feel free to comment.

My deck:

October 17, 2017 1:50 a.m.

shawnledoux says... #19

October 17, 2017 6:06 p.m.

I think Baral would work better in higher mana cost spell. This deck has draw but most of it is 1 mana cantrip, you won't have enough cards to benefit from Baral. Ideally I think Baral work better with Hieroglyphic Illumination but using that card is not synergy well with Riddleform.

Futher more his mana cost is already above the deck average curve and will be easily killed with Lightning Strike in the format now. He does nothing on the turn he played and serves mostly as mid-long game deck.

October 17, 2017 10:32 p.m.

tasuman says... #21

My friend is playing a deck like this but in temur. We decided to add Fling as a 2 of in the main and 2 more in the side. Nothing feels better than flinging a buffed drake into their face when they go to remove it. :P

October 18, 2017 9:49 a.m.

After some testing,I found Renegade Tactics is very much needed, most of your creature already got flying and force then unable to use their powerful blocker is very good. I would play 2 Renegade Tactics at minimum.

To be honest, I found Opt and especially Chart A Course quite underperform at some level because this deck is fast. Playing them would be better to have some Cryptic Serpent for longer game.

October 18, 2017 10:53 a.m.

shawnledoux says... #23

I hear what you are saying but in actuallity you have 12 cards that benifit from Baral... Also if they target him with a Lightning Strike, it is a card for card swing which is fine in this case. Better they waste it on him then hit you in the face with it... Also his second ability let's you load the graveyard for Enigma Drake. Just my opinion.

October 18, 2017 11:23 a.m.

Wallaceman105 says... #24

So, I've started playing this deck, and I'm going to try cutting the Riddles down to 2, and then adding Fling and a few more instants/sorceries with cycling. My goal will be to fling a power 15 drake by turn 10. Here's hoping!

October 19, 2017 1:14 a.m.

munky702 says... #25

Suggestion.. Even though it'll push your mana curve to 4.. What do you think about Primal Amulet  Flip cost one less to cast spells and when you flip it you can cast a card and double the effects! I also have similar to this. But I used Slither Blade in mine as well. Get that little bit of damage when I can

October 20, 2017 5:05 p.m.

tumorman73 says... #26

Rile is a good way to give the drake trample with the added bonus of a draw

October 23, 2017 1:30 p.m.

@tumorman73 Rile is worse than Crash Through though, and it is sorcery that brings our Drake to Lightning Bolt and Abrade's range.

October 24, 2017 10:52 p.m.

munky702 says... #28

JTetris11 Were you planning just playing only izzet? Or would you oppose adding another color?

November 6, 2017 10 p.m.

JTetris11 says... #29

Munky I think I just want to leave it Izzet for sake of the Mana Base and keeping it budget friendly! What were you thinking though?

November 8, 2017 12:13 a.m.

munky702 says... #30

Adding green. While keeping it budget friendly. Cards like Deeproot Champion, Attune with Aether and Aether Hub really makes the deck pop. Keeping the ability to still stay under 3 Cmc which is what youd want for this deck. And would you oppose throwing in a couple Cryptic Serpent instead of Riddleform and to be able to add a few more spells?

November 8, 2017 8:23 a.m.

Darsul says... #31

@ munky702

Temur Miracle Grow, ;)


I would look to adding white my self. you get Dusk / Dawn, Cast Out and/or Ixalan's Binding and Solemnity to name a few.

November 10, 2017 12:54 p.m.

munky702 says... #32

Oh I have a different approach to it. Taking out soul scar and adding in onward to victory from the miracle grow combo

November 10, 2017 1:10 p.m.

Darsul says... #33

also, budget friendly land option Painted Bluffs, Evolving Wilds, Field of Ruin and to lesser extent, Highland Lake. Just to be clear I'm not suggesting 4 of each more like 1 to none of each.

November 10, 2017 1:18 p.m.

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+2 Search for Azcanta  Flip maybe
+4 Soul-Scar Mage maybe
+4 Spirebluff Canal maybe