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Turn 3 Emrakul? Yes please

Modern Combo Competitive Ramp

CrowleM94


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The aim here is to cast Tooth and Nail as fast as we can so that we can bring out Emrakul, the Aeons Torn and Xenagos, God of Revels. A 30/30 flying, haste, protection from colored spells and annihilator 6 on turn 3 or 4 is a win condition.

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ChiefBell says... #1

You are missing the best card in the deck! Primal Command.

The key to Primal command is that it can't put lands on top of the opponents library. Imagine on turn 3 you put a land on top of their library and then search for a primetime to play next turn. That's pretty much gg.

Your creature based is also far too saturated. If you run 4x tooth and nail and 4x Primal command then you don't need to run 4x primeval titan or 4x wolfbriar because you have 8 tutors.

My deck has those 8 tutors, 1 harmonise, and 4 carven caryatid for extra draw. All my threats are just 1-ofs. You can afford to do this if you run the draw and the tutors.

March 20, 2016 7:36 a.m.

CrowleM94 says... #2

Thanks ChiefBell!

Currently i have three Primal Command's in my sideboard. I only ever brought them in when playing against burn, as i use it as a life source and to garb a Primeval Titan.

So you recommend bringing it to my main deck? I would probably do that and replace the Wolfbriar Elemental as i love the Primeval Titan and Harmonize, as they help reduce the cards in the deck and draw into a Tooth and Nail.

However the only potential problem could be when i bring in Summoning Trap for some games and don't find a creature!

March 20, 2016 11:13 a.m.

ChiefBell says... #3

Primal command wins games. Against Tron you can put two lands on top.

Against BGx you can put liliana and a land on top.

You can search for threats. You can gain life.

Very flexible, and very powerful.

March 20, 2016 11:15 a.m.

darkparadise27 says... #7

with Elvish Piper you could potentially do it on turn two your way. t1 arbor elf, turn two u-sprawl-elvish piper...Quicksilver Amuletcan get it done too... Summoning Trap could be effective, as well as Descendants' Path depending on if you load up on Eldrazi Mimic and such... and if it goes late Mosswort Bridge can get it done not as exact, but options options options....

April 13, 2016 5:49 p.m.

darkparadise27 says... #8

maybe not turn two with piper, but Somberwald Sage is good too

April 13, 2016 5:51 p.m.

wolves1211 says... #9

Is Eternal Witness just in case they destroy enchantments?

April 16, 2016 7:05 a.m.

ChiefBell says... #10

It also lets you recast any killed creatures, or draw spells.

April 16, 2016 7:15 a.m.

CrowleM94 says... #11

Hello darkparadise27,

Elvish Piper is a very good card when in a deck trying to get creatures out. It would fit into this deck but I feel it would not be consistent as I will not have a creature to play every turn, plus it will die to any form of removal. Quicksilver Amulet is similar to Elvish Piper but paying 4 each turn can be more expensive than a lot of the creatures!

Summoning Trap is a great card! It is in the sideboard for certain matchups (match ups with lots of counter spells). It can be good for the mainboard but it costs 6 and if I dont hit any big creatures it could be a waste.

Descendants' Path is another good card in certain decks where creatures all have the same type (Elves and slivers). However, in this case I would probably not hit anything and have to put cards on the bottom of my library. Eldrazi Mimic would involve a massive change in this deck!

Mosswort Bridge is good but I dont always get 10 power unless its the end of the game

Somberwald Sage is very good. However, this deck already produces a lot of Mana and Somberwald Sage would only help with creature spells. The main combo of this deck is the Tooth and Nail and this would not help play this card.

April 16, 2016 8:55 a.m.

CrowleM94 says... #12

Hello wolves1211 & ChiefBell,

Eternal Witness is a great card!!!! You are both correct, enchantments are very important to this deck so this allows me to retrieve them if needed. As well as it helps get big creatures back, like the Primeval Titan so I get more lands out or Hornet Queen to produce more flying deathtouches or the tap creatures so I can produce more mama.

Also, it works great with Primal Command as you can play it, chose two. Play an Eternal Witness and then pick another two on Primal Command.

Harmonize also works well, as it means you can draw 6 cards over all. Meaning you get closer to something you need.

One combo lots of decks rely on is the Genesis Wave and Eternal Witness combo. You play Genesis Wave and put all the permanents onto the battlefield and others into the graveyard. You then use the Eternal Witness to hopefully fetch out a Tooth and Nail and next turn you pretty much win. If a Tooth and Nail does not come up, you will still have great options to pick as well as a great board as lots of permanents would of entered.

Also if Tooth and Nail gets countered, you dont need to cry as you can just retrieve it and play it again next go using Eternal Witness

Hope this helps

April 16, 2016 8:58 a.m.

jld592 says... #14

The other benefit of Eternal Witness is the combo with Primal Command. With a playset of both, one primal command puts a land (preferably a tapland) on top of their deck and fetching a witness. Next turn play the witness, get the command, swing with your guys, and play the command to do it again. Four turns later, they're super pissed off, you've got 8 more devotion, and you can use the last command to fetch whatever you wish (hardcast an emrakul?). I've had plenty of people scoop after they realized what was going on.

April 19, 2016 8:16 p.m.

Daedalus19876 says... #15

ChiefBell is incorrect; Primal Command cannot put two lands on top of an opponents' library because you cannot choose the same mode twice.

April 25, 2016 6:17 p.m.

ChiefBell says... #16

Yeah. Dont know how that slipped by me. Oh well.

April 26, 2016 2:21 a.m.

LOL Xenagos, God of Revels doesn't affect emrakul hehehe, he's a coloured spell

April 28, 2016 10:53 a.m.

Daedalus19876 says... #18

feyn_do_alduin: He's not a spell when he's on the battlefield, so he can affect Emrakul. Same reason why you can hit Emrakul with an Oblivion Ring.

April 28, 2016 11:12 a.m.

CrowleM94 says... #19

Hello feyn_do_alduin,

yes, Emrakul, the Aeons Torn can not be targeted by coloured spells.

However, you are not using a spell on Emrakul, the Aeons Torn, it is an ability from Xenagos, God of Revels.

Therefore, it can be done.

April 28, 2016 11:18 a.m.

K00lDudE1 says... #20

@feyn_do_alduin

Creatures are only spells when they are on the stack, not on the battlefield.

April 30, 2016 9:33 a.m.

Very cool deck, and it has a surprising number of ways to get that Tooth and Nail off. But since you will almost never be playing Emrakul straight up, why not consider other colors and creatures. For instance Avacyn, Angel of Hope is another game winner. One thing about Emrakul is he does not have trample, and I don't see an obvious way to give him one, maybe add Rancor? The Annihilator 6 is great though. Just a thought.

May 5, 2016 12:11 p.m.

CrowleM94 says... #22

Hey dentalflosstycoon,

There are many big cards I could add in the deck and bring out. But the problem is what if I have them in my hand. I would be stuck with a card I cant play. The reason Emrakul, the Aeons Torn was used was because it goes well with Xenagos, God of Revels. It is pretty much a win condition.

But yes he does not have trample. If they block him the Annihilator 6 should set up a next turn win. But i see your point. I could add a different combo to my sideboard in case an unlikely match up comes up :)

Thanks! :D

May 5, 2016 12:34 p.m.

I was actually amazed how well everything plays off everything else, and I did really like the Emrakul and Xenagos combo, especially because Xenagos gives him haste and then you get to take another turn, it's pretty insane. I was just throwing out some other cool cards, but you're right, the three white would make Avacyn almost impossible to cast unless you "cheated" her onto the field.

May 5, 2016 12:50 p.m.

CrowleM94 says... #24

yeah dentalflosstycoon, if need Emrakul, the Aeons Torn can be hard-casted as its colourless. The quickest this can happen is turn 4 but its very unlikely. Also Xenagos, God of Revels can be hard-casted due to the fetch lands and the Stomping Ground. Also when Utopia Sprawl enters the battlefield you can name red. green manna is never a problem so naming red so you can get Xenagos out will not affect the deck. Another roate to get red manna is the Primeval Titan, when it enters the battlefield you can grab a stomping ground. Therefore all cards can be cast. My hand will not get clogged up with cards that can not be cast.

Also Xenagos can make the prime time a 12/12 trample! or Kessig Wolf Run can buff anything up and give it trample. Manna is not a problem so you can even have some big elves.

However, Emrakul, the Aeons Torn is not cast when using Tooth and Nail so you don't get an extra turn. :( . but one attack is always enough. On turn 3 or 4 your opponent will have to sacrifice pretty much everything they have.

May 5, 2016 1:54 p.m.

crydra says... #25

Awesome deck. Im looking to build a modern deck and this seems perfect to my play style and very affordable. +1 from me and thank you, You have renewed my faith in a format other than commander.

May 16, 2016 10:59 a.m.

Since the big idea here is buffing Emrakul past 20 power for a single swing win, you could also make this even more flexible by going with a cheaper Eldrazi.

You could use any of the 10-power Eldrazi and still get an almost identical effect on turn 3 or 4 with the added benefit of potentially way easier hard-casting if you ever run into a less-than-friendly draw.

Ulamog, the Infinite Gyre retains enough Annihilator to do effectively the same amount of destruction as Emrakul would, and could be cast in full with just a draw of mana dorks and enchantments around the same number of turns anyway.

It That Betrays would go to 22/22 so at least even if they chump-blocked its almost always still a win plus a bit of Annihilator and allows you to steal what they lose on the off chance you don't kill them in your swing.

Kozilek, the Great Distortion could even swing for an easy kill with some evasion and a great defense against any potential trump cards the opponent may cast.

I don't know, I'd have to test it more. I love the idea. It just really strikes me that there are a few times when the hand could go really sour but could be safer to run if there were just a few cheaper alternatives to Emrakul. If the goal is a 20+ point hit on turn 3/4, it could be accomplished for cheaper while having much more breathing room without your cheats or tutors.

May 19, 2016 1:53 p.m.

CrowleM94 says... #27

Hello crydra,

Good to know, it is very fun to play and always does well at my local FMN. I'm still yet to meet an opponent playing a deck similar to this. Yeah, this deck has the chance to be a budget deck. To start with it was a lot cheaper than it is now. Cards like Surrak, the Hunt Caller were used instead of Xenagos, God of Revels. So if you are making a deck similar to this and want some advise feel free to message me.

However, the sideboard needs upgrading which could make the price shoot up. Blood Moon ect

May 19, 2016 2:49 p.m.

CrowleM94 says... #28

Hello Psychonautical,

First of all, thank you for your advice!

Tooth and Nail will normally bring out Xenagos, God of Revels and Emrakul, the Aeons Torn. But due to being able to get out a 10 drop on turn 3 and 4 i should consider some big creatures for my sideboard to bring in for certain match ups.

You are right in saying Emrakul, the Aeons Torn in my hand could be a problem. But it will get played by turn 6. Or i could just pay 7 with the Tooth and Nail to play it.

May 19, 2016 3:02 p.m.

DJ_Ethanol says... #29

I was looking at the deck, and at first i didnt understand it. Then I relized how it works and i litterally said "oh god" out load in the middle of class. dude I am gonna buy this deck cause it is amazing omg

May 31, 2016 1:21 p.m.

I like the combo I saw at my town arcade, equip deathrender to a scion and sacrifice it for emrakul, i was duped for a desolation twin on turn 4

June 8, 2016 8:39 p.m.

GreyEzra says... #31

sorry to burst you bubble but Emrakul can't be targeted with anything that has a color. meaning Xenagos cant target Emrakul

June 10, 2016 6:15 a.m.

ChiefBell says... #32

Incorrect. Emrakul can be targeted by permanents but not spells.

June 10, 2016 6:17 a.m.

GreyEzra says... #33

read the text of Spectra Ward xenagos is green and red make emrakul a invalid target

June 10, 2016 6:19 a.m.

ChiefBell says... #34

And then read Emrakul which explicitly says "protection from colored spells"

June 10, 2016 6:21 a.m.

GreyEzra says... #35

ah, my bad. I thought he was more 'broken' then that. again my apoligies

June 10, 2016 6:24 a.m.

CrowleM94 says... #36

Hello GreyEzra,

Emrakul, the Aeons Torn cant be targeted by coloured spells. Xenagos, God of Revels uses its ability which is not a spell meaning it works.

This combo has been used in competitive MTG events and can be used on MTGO if you do not believe me :)

June 10, 2016 6:24 a.m.

GreyEzra says... #37

i believe you i just had to be reminded the word 'spells' was on the card. again i appoligize

June 10, 2016 6:34 a.m.

ChiefBell says... #38

It's not a big deal, it's an easy mistake to make. I think loads of people believe Emrakul is way better than she actually is.

June 10, 2016 6:40 a.m.

GreyEzra says... #39

much like progenites

June 10, 2016 6:51 a.m.

K00lDudE1 says... #40

Emrakul, the Aeons Torn is still crazy good and almost always an instant win when she is dropped.

June 10, 2016 11:23 a.m.

carpage says... #41

Your T3 Tooth and Nail scenario is wrong. See Tooth and Plow (T3 Emrakul).

June 12, 2016 1:15 p.m.

carpage says... #42

Additionally, a lot of your T4's are off by one mana. The deck I posted circumvents this issue with Mwonvuli Acid-Moss.

June 12, 2016 1:19 p.m.

CrowleM94 says... #43

Hello carpage

The turn 3 scenario is not wrong.

T1 Forest, Arbor ElfT2 Forest, Utopia Sprawl, OvergrowthT3 Tooth and Nail

Turn 1 all you do is play a Forest and Arbor Elf.

Turn 2 you play a Forest, you tap that Forest and enchant the Utopia Sprawl to the untapped Forest. You then tap the untapped Forest for 2 mana, then tap the Arbor Elf to untap the enchanted Forest, you then tap the Forest again. This means you have 4 mana in your mana pool. You then can play Overgrowth and enchant the same Forest that Utopia Sprawl is enchanted on.

Turn 3 you don't even need a third land! You tap the enchanted forest for 4 mana, then the Arbor Elf to untap the Forest, then you tap the Forest again for 4. Then tap the spare land for the 9th mana. Then Tooth and Nail turn 3.

All the T4 scenrios are normally over 9 mana, not under. I think you may be missing the way you can tap and untap the forests using the elf

I really like Mwonvuli Acid-Moss! But it is a bit too slow for this deck but i may add it to the sideboard. Thanks for the suggestion!

June 12, 2016 1:54 p.m.

carpage says... #44

CrowleM94, you can just ignore me. I am a moron :P.

June 13, 2016 11:04 a.m.

Lol, I might be an idiot but i believe I could just Oblivion Strike Emrakul and continue kicking this decks butt.

June 17, 2016 8:09 p.m.

CrowleM94 says... #46

Hello hamburgerwithoutcheese

Of course there are ways to beat this deck. Like there are for any deck. However, oblivion strike is a socery. You would be dead by the time you used it seeing a 30/30 haste, flying and annihilator 6 hitting you :).

The speed of this deck is key but there are still ways to win without emrukul!

June 17, 2016 8:22 p.m.

Kinda sucks how you don't reap the full benefts of Emrakul unless you're hardcasting her.

I've seen this strategy and similar decks before, often referred to as "Elfrakul". What are, in your opinion, the benefits to this over Tron?

June 20, 2016 9 a.m.

CrowleM94 says... #48

Hello YamishiTheWickedOne,

I am also a big fan of Tron! The main benefit is that it is a lot quicker than Tron. However, if you don't win by turn 4 or 5 then you are stuck. Once Tron gets going you are in trouble. Tron has a lot more win scenarios. But this deck does regularly win on turn 4.

I have also made the sideboard which focuses on Tron type decks quite badly. Which means the second and third games should be fine. (Blood Moon and land destruction).

From playing this deck against Tron regularly it is around 50/50 on who wins (estimated as i do not record the results). I personally prefer playing this deck over Tron.

June 21, 2016 8:39 a.m.

Slyme369 says... #49

I know it would mean splashing into blue, but with Freed from the Real you could get an unlimited mana combo using Utopia Sprawl + Arbor Elf. Use the Utopia Sprawl for a blue mana, plus the green from a Forest, untap the forest with Arbor Elf use the blue to untap the elf, rinse and repeat for as many floating green as you want.

You could also swap out your Overgrowth for either Fertile Ground or Market Festival which would also work to generate unlimited mana, and make it easier to splash in the blue.

June 22, 2016 1:59 p.m.

I really like it. It's a pretty solid idea, but the only downside is not getting Emrakul's second turn. Because Tooth and Nail only puts it on the battlefield, it isn't considered being cast, thus the second turn does not fire. Of course, it doesn't matter b/c Emrakul turn 3, but it's still unfortunate. Still, nice idea!

July 2, 2016 5:28 p.m.

PandaRob91 says... #51

You don't happen to play at Comic Fusion in Flemington, NJ do you? I played a very similar decklist to this at FNM the other day.

February 13, 2017 12:54 a.m.

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