How does kitchen finks combo with brood moth

freeze92 it requires holding priority and manipulation of the stack:

1. Sac finks which will put moth and persist trigger on the stack
2. Order the persist trigger to happen first
3. Let persist trigger resolve which will bring back finks with -1/-1 counter
4. Hold priority while the moth trigger is on the stack and sac finks which will put another moth trigger on the stack (2 moth triggers on the stack)
5. Let moth trigger resolve which will bring back finks with flying counter
6. Now that the -1/-1 counter is gone, repeat step 1 through 5 again infinite times

EnralThanks, that’s an awesome combo. Great deck by the way. I was thinking of converting my Karador deck over to Tayam or Nethroi.

freeze92: Thanks. Funny enough this deck was literally converted from my old Karador deck. Karador always felt too clunky and requires either a sac/mill engine to get going but a reanimator commander that self mills with a built-in combo outlet is definitely a huge game changer.

EnralI have had all the same issues with karador as well. It’s my first commander and definitely then one I have the most money in but I just have not enjoyed playing it for the last year or so.

Can you help me make sure I understand the Leonin Relic-Warder loop completely? Also, what do you do after the loop?

Requirements: Sac Outlet (Phyrexian Altar), Leonin Relic-Warder in the Graveyard, Dance of the Dead in hand

Mana Pool:

Cast Dance of the Dead targeting Leo in grave

Current Stack

1. Dance of the Dead

Dance resolves, reviving Leo. Leo's ETB triggers, targeting Dance. Stack resolves, Dance is exiled, and Dance's LTB ability triggers. Maintaining priority, sac Leo to the Altar, gaining 1 mana. Leo's LTB ability triggers, returning an exiled artifact or enchantment.

Current Stack

1. From exile: Dance of the Dead LTB

---sacrifice Leo to Altar, gaining 1 mana of any color---

1. From exile: Dance of the Dead LTB
2. Leonin Relic-Warder LTB, targeting Dance of the Dead

Leo's LTB resolves, returning Dance to the field. Dance ETB triggers, reviving Leo.

If I did this right, at the end of the loop you should have gained one black mana, and now have infinite mana. However, you don't have a mana sink or creatures with counters for Tayam, Luminous Enigma to revive something like Altar of Dementia and mill everyone out. What happens now?

I am also pretty sure the Phyrexian Altar + Promise of Bunrei + Tayam, Luminous Enigma requires one floating mana to pay for the first Tayam ability.

Hissysnake8: You're right about leonin loop and I totally missed the counters required for activation for some reason. And some mana is definitely needed to start any of the infinite loop. Thanks for pointing that out!

Seems like an incredibly clean deck, although Primus does feel a little clunky.

Since this list does heavily revolve around the yard I would recommend some measures against graveyard hate- RiP and the like. I would also recommend Veil of Summer and Autumn's Veil as more pieces of interaction. I would say to trim your payload cards (ie:cards that are actively winning the game for you) down a little- maybe cut the less effcient ones, and slot in a few more copies of tutors and interaction.

Quite like the creative use of PolyK and Hermit though. +1.

toastySmorc Thanks for the feedback. You're totally right about woodfall primus being clunky...the only reason it's in there is because it's my pet card. But I will be replacing it with some yard protection as suggested. I do like the idea of veil and will try to trim my list down a little to include it. Cheers!