- 1x Ancient Ziggurat
- 1x Ash Barrens
- 1x Blood Crypt
- 1x Bloodstained Mire
- 1x Breeding Pool
- 1x Cascading Cataracts
- 1x City of Brass
- 1x Command Tower
- 1x Evolving Wilds
- 1x Exotic Orchard
- 1x Flooded Strand
- 2x Forest
- 1x Godless Shrine
- 1x Hallowed Fountain
- 1x Hanweir Battlements
- 1x Haven of the Spirit Dragon
- 1x Homeward Path
- 1x Island
- 1x Krosan Verge
- 1x Mana Confluence
- 1x Mountain
- 1x Opal Palace
- 1x Overgrown Tomb
- 1x Path of Ancestry
- 1x Plains
- 1x Polluted Delta
- 1x Reliquary Tower
- 1x Sacred Foundry
- 1x Steam Vents
- 1x Stomping Ground
- 1x Swamp
- 1x Temple Garden
- 1x Terramorphic Expanse
- 1x Unclaimed Territory
- 1x Watery Grave
- 1x Windswept Heath
- 1x Wooded Foothills
- 1x Atarka, World Render
- 1x Balefire Dragon
- 1x Birds of Paradise
- 1x Bladewing the Risen
- 1x Dragon Broodmother
- 1x Dragonlord Atarka
- 1x Dragonlord Dromoka
- 1x Dragonlord Kolaghan
- 1x Dragonlord Ojutai
- 1x Dragonspeaker Shaman
- 1x Dromoka, the Eternal
- 1x Hellkite Tyrant
- 1x Kolaghan, the Storm's Fury
- 1x Ojutai, Soul of Winter
- 1x Ramos, Dragon Engine
- 1x Savage Ventmaw
- 1x Scalelord Reckoner
- 1x Scourge of the Throne
- 1x Scourge of Valkas
- 1x Selvala, Heart of the Wilds
- 1x Silumgar, the Drifting Death
- 1x Somberwald Sage
- 1x Steel Hellkite
- 1x Thundermaw Hellkite
- 1x Utvara Hellkite
- 1x Wasitora, Nekoru Queen
- 1x Xenagos, God of Revels
- 1x Anguished Unmaking
- 1x Beast Within
- 1x Boros Charm
- 1x Heroic Intervention
- 1x Swan Song
- 1x Worldly Tutor
- 1x Crux of Fate
- 1x Farseek
- 1x Green Sun's Zenith
- 1x Living Death
- 1x Nature's Lore
- 1x Patriarch's Bidding
- 1x Selvala's Stampede
- 1x Skyshroud Claim
- 1x Toxic Deluge
- 1x Animate Dead
- 1x Asceticism
- 1x City of Solitude
- 1x Dragon Tempest
- 1x Elemental Bond
- 1x Greater Good
- 1x Kindred Discovery
- 1x Lurking Predators
- 1x Temur Ascendancy
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Can't build a dragon tribal without Crucible of Fire. To make the casting of dragons cheaper, I'd also recommend Dragonlord's Servant, Dragonspeaker Shaman, Urza's Incubator or Belbe's Portal. My dragon deck also uses Flameshadow Conjuring. Hope this helps; have fun!
August 15, 2017 6:26 p.m.
NV_1980, thanks so much for the suggestions. A lot of those suggestions are in my maybelist, just trying to figure out where to make room! Flameshadow Conjuring looks sweet! I'll look into getting a copy
August 15, 2017 7:15 p.m.
Liscom, added Sarkhan to the maybelist :) thanks!
NV_1980, do you have a link to your dragon deck? I don't see it listed under your decks
August 15, 2017 7:19 p.m.
August 15, 2017 8:33 p.m.
I'm actually quite annoyed neither of those first two suggestions of mine were included in this precon.
August 15, 2017 8:36 p.m.
Delta-117, thanks for your suggestions. Chromatic Lantern is already on my list (and I agree that it's annoying that it isn't in the precon). I'll throw in Cascading Cataracts...hadn't thought of that! Prismatic Omen I totally would...but I don't own one and it is a little pricey.
What leads you to suggest Amulet of Vigor? Because of the tapped "tri-lands"? Just trying to understand your reasoning.
thanks again for the feedback!
August 15, 2017 10:07 p.m.
one lesser known way to make your drakes cheaper is Planar Gate - but at least in my country a buyout pushed it over 50 recently (thank goodness I was quicker). Check out if you can still get it cheap where you are.Beastcaller Savant is also a cheap and nice way. Considering lands, there was a new tri-land in the new Planeswalker Deck of Nicol Bolas. Maybe get a hold of it.
August 16, 2017 2:33 a.m.
MegaMatt13, I'm still in the progress of putting up all the decks my wife and I own on tappedout. It's a bit of a slow process because of being busy and stuff; I've posted 11 now, still 32 commander decks to go ... I'll let you know as soon as the dragon deck is posted.
August 16, 2017 4:53 a.m.
Id say you are in dire need of removal. Id eliminate alot of the double strike and pillow fort effects. Focus more on getting the dragons out fast and reliably, also draw power, and like i said before some removal or maybe counters instead to stop removal and boardwipes that head your way. They already hit like trucks. Dont really need to beef em up.
August 16, 2017 2 p.m.
NV_1980: A total of 43 commander decks? oh my! you make my addiction seem reasonable hehe
Revenantmike: Really appreciate the feeback. I agree that the deck is lacking in removal. the card draw is decent but could be increased a bit too. The double strike, extra combat, and pillow fort effects were my attempt to make the deck a little bit more unique than just swinging with dragons. However, I agree that may not be necessary. If you had to choose between keeping double strike or extra combat...which would you keep? Any card draw suggestions you can think of?
Liscom, yeah Planar Gate is just too far out of my price range. Also, since my commander gives me a cost reduction from my command zone...i'm not actually sure how many more cost reduction effects I need. The deck runs quite a lot of ramp and cards like Elvish Piper and Selvala's Stampede which cheat stuff into play. I'll think about other cost reduction cards though! Thanks
August 16, 2017 6:33 p.m.
Here are a few other ideas:
August 16, 2017 7:57 p.m.
Well for card draw luckily you are in five colors. I prefer stuff like Phyrexian Arena, Staff of Nin, and Mind's Eye, they arent too overpriced and do a decent job. Id go with extra attack phases if i had to keep one of those. I like the stuff that makes your dragons hexproof too id just keep that and ramp my dragons to hell. Add in Anguished Unmaking and Utter End maybe some counters to prevent board wipes nd id call it good. If u wanna do double strike or anthem effects id add in True Conviction and things like Akroma's Memorial and Eldrazi Monument.im personally thinking of adding in Dragonstorm and the worldgorger combo along with things like Purphoros, God of the Forge
August 17, 2017 12:04 a.m.
I am curious as to why you aren't running Scourge of Valkas? It has fantastic synergy with Utvara Hellkite, Dragon Broodmother, and Dragon Tempest. Personally I would have it replaceNiv-Mizzet, Dracogenius, because it offers far more ability damage, and it's cheaper. The only drawback(get it?:P)is you don't get the card advantage he offers, but you still have several other options available to you for that already, so its not hurting you very much in that regard.
August 17, 2017 4:10 p.m.
HungryWampa, Scourge of Valkas isn't in the deck right now because I'm not sure how much damage he would actually do with his ETB. I don't envision my opponents allowing me to have many dragons on the battlefield at once. I agree Niv-Mizzet is one of the weaker dragons though. I've kept him so far simply for the card draw but he's on the chopping block. I'll put Scourge of Valkas on my maybe list. Thanks for the feedback :)
Revenantmike, Anguished Unmaking was already in there but I've added Utter End. Thanks for that suggestion! I'm not sure about the anthem effects. Eldrazi Monument is fantastic in token decks. I don't like the idea of sacrificing a 6-mana dragon every upkeep though. True Conviction could be good though. The double strike and lifelink make a potent combo. Of the card draw options you suggested, I really like Phyrexian Arena. Low casting cost and accrues value over time. Since it's a creature based deck, I'm thinking more creature-based draw spells could be good. Thanks again :)
August 18, 2017 2:16 a.m.
yes i forgot bout the sacrifice part of Eldrazi Monument. Perhaps adding something like Avacyn, Angel of Hope instead. Umm as for draw i forgot to mention Rhystic Study. Also a dragon wheel effect may be good with Dragon Mage. Im plannin on building ur dragon as well. When i get a list made ill link it. Might give ya some ideas.
August 18, 2017 4:39 p.m.
Revenantmike, I like the suggestion of Rhystic Study. It slows opponents down too which is what this deck wants.
August 19, 2017 7:20 p.m.
Kindred Dominance wouldn't be bad for another board wipe
August 20, 2017 1:14 a.m.
If card draw is in question, Skyline Despot may be worth looking into. Though may under preform, depending on your play group, as the monarchy can be taken from you. Though, if they attack you, it procs O-Kagachi, Vengeful Kami.
August 20, 2017 5:19 p.m.
jamindragons, I considered it. My deck is high CMC as it is with all the dragons. I wanted my boardwipes to be relatively cheap. That's why I've stuck with Toxic Deluge and Crux of Fate. Thanks for the suggestion!
KylerStar, I've played Skyline Despot in other decks and my experience is that it encourages people to attack me. I rarely got much card draw/tokens out of it. Appreciate the feedback.
August 22, 2017 1:44 a.m.
High cost dragons decks really like Cryptic Gateway. Maybe yours has a spot for it?
August 22, 2017 2:38 a.m.
I figure you're limited by your collection, but you'll want less of the dragonlords and more of the fate reforged versions if you want really good tribal synergy. Otherwise you're really just running a goodstuff dragons build.
August 23, 2017 12:24 a.m.
TheRedGoat, thanks for those fixing options. I had forgotten about Celestial Dawn and had never heard of Joiner Adept! I'll look into them. In terms of the fate reforged dragons, I believe I'm only missing Silumgar, the Drifting Death and Ojutai, Soul of Winter. I've considered Silumgar as he effectively counts as a removal spell. I'm not sure about Ojutai though. Is 7 mana for a creature that taps things down worth it? I already have more 7-drops than I really want. What are your thoughts on Silumgar and Ojutai?
Etoilebane, I could see Cryptic Gateway being a great tribal card in a "go-wide" strategy. I'm not sure about it in here though. How often will I have two dragons I want to tap down (as opposed to attacking)? Appreciate the suggestion.
August 23, 2017 10:48 a.m.
Ojutai, Soul of Winter is most definitely worth it- I lost a game yesterday due to the dragonbird tapping out all of my draconic defenders...hella annoying.
August 26, 2017 4:08 a.m.
MegaMatt13 i said id link my deck when i had it figured out. Here is basically what it will be. Ill be making some changes to it and ignore my manabase. Still working on that part. Hopefully gives you some ideas.The Ur-Dragon's Flame
August 31, 2017 3:56 a.m.
plasmor99, they were here but have both been cut. Dragonlord's Servant was cut for Urza's Incubator which gives a better cost reduction and is an artifact (less vulnerable to removal). Fist of Suns only really gave me a deduction with casting my Commander...that's nice...but I rather run other ramp spells that can be used on anything. Thanks for the suggestions :)
September 8, 2017 7:30 p.m.
I think you underestimate Fist of Suns. Getting it out and being able to cast your commander is amazing. He is a huge draw engine and lets u play a card for free. complete gamechanger once he comes out. Also i think Intet, the Dreamer and Scion of the Ur-Dragon deserve a spot. Intet also lets you play cards for three measly mana and scion is another gamechanger. From the last few games ive played these cards have completely changed the game in my favor.
September 9, 2017 12:31 a.m.
I run a few Tutors and Fist of Suns is my go to card for the same reasons..anything that can get the Big D out fast is an auto-include in my book.
September 9, 2017 4:44 a.m.
Revenantmike and Rabid_Wombat: I've thrown in Intet. I was on the fence about him but I think he's worth trying out for the card advantage he generates. You may be right about Fist of Suns. I just don't know which ramp card to cut to make room. I'm hesitant to cut the ramp cards that fix my colours or reduce the cost of my dragons. I'm thinking maybe Mirari's Wake? Fantastic card though...I dunno lol. Fist of Suns is on the maybelist now though.
September 9, 2017 2:41 p.m.
As an absurd but hilarious idea, have you thought about minimising the number of dragons and running Conspiracy
September 11, 2017 3 a.m.
Is love, and leaves me deeply desiring more dragons with the trigger "Whenever a dragon you control attacks"
September 11, 2017 3:06 a.m.
Have you considered Sarkhan's Triumph? It'll let you tutor for your dragons at instant speed!
Btw, Love the deck im definitely adjusting mine with ideas from your build +1 from me!
September 13, 2017 6:41 p.m.
MegaMatt13 I would say mirari is pretty weak in five color. You want as you said before color fixing. Getting double of the same color mana isnt nearly as helpful in five or four colors as it would be in three or less. Especially when your game changer needs all five of those colors. That being said mirari is still a great ramp card. i think fist will surprise you on its usefulness.
September 14, 2017 12:55 p.m.
September 16, 2017 9:55 a.m.
Attack_of_Mogis, definitely adding unclaimed territory when it comes out. I've thought about dragon arch but I would use Elvish Piper before it. I had Elvish piper for a little bit. However I found with all the cost reducing and ramp the deck didn't really need her. I may reconsider her though. Thanks for the suggestions :)
September 16, 2017 11:53 a.m.
I'd say, check out my scion deck, then we can talk in a chat.
September 17, 2017 2:59 p.m.
September 30, 2017 5:23 p.m.
New mana base looks sweet...sure the shocks are expensive but you will be impressed by how much faster the Dragons hit the battlefield. Maybe consider Prismatic Geoscope due to the extra land types you are now running thanks to the shocks?
Running all ten fetches in my tribal Dragon deck means I don't have any spare for my other edh decks- trying to stuck to a budget yo!
October 1, 2017 12:26 a.m.
Revenantmike, Unclaimed Territory was already in there :) Don't own Descendants' Path but I'll think about picking one up.
Rabid_Wombat, yeah the enemy fetches in particular are very expensive. I may stick with just the allied ones. My only problem with Prismatic Geoscope is that it enters the battlefield tapped. When I run a mana rock over land ramping it's because I want the benefit of being able to use it right away. The geoscope has the potential to generate a ton of mana though.
October 1, 2017 7:18 p.m.
New mana base looks pretty awesome. I have some recommendations though. The enemy fetches are expensive, but the Mirage slow fetches aren't. (Bad River, Rocky Tar Pit, Mountain Valley, Flood Plain, and Grasslands). I know that Prof over at Tolarian Community College recommends 10 fetches, so you could try those.
I still don't like Crucible of the Spirit Dragon, but that's because I was losing badly, and I had a chance to hang on if I drew any land that could produce colored mana the turn that it came down. Crucible is a pain to use. I would replace it with something else. Personally, I feel lands like those belong more in an Atraxa deck.
Also, have you thought of Sarkhan Unbroken yet? Even if you can't ultimate him, you still get mana fixing, card draw, and Dragon tokens.
October 2, 2017 9:20 p.m.
Attack_of_Mogis, Sarkhan is definitely on my list of cards to pick up. Its price spiked after this deck was released. I have a hunch it may drift back down again after the hype wears off. I know that sounds weird considering I just spent a lot on lands but I just think it may come down in price (the lands on the other hand were just going to gradually keep rising)
You're probably right about Crucible. It's been ok but not great. I may swap it for Polluted Delta when I pick one up.
I thought about the Mirage fetches but decided they kinda defeat the purpose of why I invested in fetches: to speed up the deck. I'm trying to reduce the number of tapped lands in the deck.
Really appreciate all the suggestions!
October 2, 2017 11 p.m.
Mirage fetches are too slow...that's the reason they go for a buck each.
Sarkhan Unbroken will come down in price...however that ultimate takes way too long to trigger, sure it's awesome but he is like a giant bullseye for everyone round the table as they freak out over 20+ Dragons hitting the battlefield so they either attack him or you until he's gone. I'm running Sarkhan the Mad instead, he's cheaper and if you have two or three dragons he can Ultimate the turn he comes into play which takes out the player who is the biggest threat...he is totally mad bro!
October 3, 2017 1:38 a.m.
You don't even need the ultimate on Sarkhan Unbroken, though. The +1 is card advantage and fixing, and the -2 makes more Dragons. He's relatively good even without the ultimate. Sarkhan the Mad seems good, but you can't get too much out of him.
October 3, 2017 3:53 p.m.
Attack_of_Mogis we both know you don't need the ultimate...but everyone else will see us as Archenemy while Sarkhan Unbroken is on the board. If you can get away with saying: "Hey guys, I'm just running Sarkhan Unbroken for mana fixing and card draw....nothing to do with that crazy ultimate!" you are playing a lot more casually than we are....Sarkhan the Mad has won me games on the turn he drops - ending a Mexican stand-off with 50+ damage against another Tribal Dragon player made that guy order Sarkhan el Loco for his The Ur-Dragon deck ;)
October 4, 2017 6:04 a.m.
October 4, 2017 7:17 p.m.
I appreciate the discussion surrounding the two Sarkhans. Sounds like 2 different philosophies when evaluating the cards. I usually don't evaluate planeswalkers based on their ultimate abilities (unless they can be used the turn they drop or perhaps one turn later). Planeswalkers are inherently fragile in Commander because opponents can always agree to send creatures at it. Both Sarkhans generate good value at different times.
In terms of Lurking Predators, I really like the card. I had it in my Xenagos deck. My only concern here is that I'm not sure I have enough density in creatures to make it worth it. It costs 6 mana (the same cost in this deck as a 7 mana dragon effectively). I'd be worried about spending 6 and then not hitting anything. Still, I've put it on the maybelist as it is a card a I enjoy :)
October 5, 2017 11:20 a.m.
Ill give you my reasoning for Lurking Predators. Yes it costs about the same as a dragon. However most dragons should cost less because of the amount of cost reducers in the deck. Now you cast lp in place of a dragon but for rest of the game you get to play dragons for free if they r top deck. If they get rid of it then good. They wasted a card that couldve been used on your dragons or commander. Plus you should have other cheat in cards. However i do think its less useful in your deck because you are running less dragons than most tribal decks would.
October 6, 2017 12:09 a.m.
October 7, 2017 9:10 p.m.
demonicgrizzly, Tooth and Nail is a great finisher. However it is banned in my playgroup (plus it's a rather expensive card I don't own).
Really appreciate the suggestion :)
October 8, 2017 2:16 a.m.
You're gonna nut when you see all the tribal stuff from Ixalan.
October 9, 2017 8:56 a.m.
I like your deck a lot and based a lot of cards according to yours in my dragon tribal. What do you think of a Thunderbreak Regent in a similar deck ?
October 17, 2017 6:27 p.m.
Narrash, thanks for your interest in the deck! I considered Thunderbreak Regent. His casting cost is great. However, his 3 damage isn't really that much of a disincentive for opponents to target your dragons. 3 damage is a tiny price to pay in commander. I much prefer Scalelord Reckoner as opponents are much more reluctant to part with their best permanent.
having said all that, Thunderbreak Regent may still be a decent option based on low casting cost alone. you may find it worth testing :)
October 17, 2017 9:02 p.m.
i also want to chime in on Thunderbreak Regent - it is really better in multiples, which isn't really possible in commander unless you can copy it.
October 18, 2017 8:09 a.m.
I'm always running Thunderbreak Regent now since he enabled me to win against a more expensive Tribal Dragon deck...Ojutai, Soul of Winter's abilty triggered ten times - take 30 damage to the face beeyotch!!
October 19, 2017 1:16 a.m.
Hey MegaMat have you yet read the card The Immortal Sun? Might be worth considering either here, or for one of your various other edh decks I see you have on here.
If not here it is:
, Legendary - Artifact
Players cant activate Loyalty abilities of Planeswalkers.
At the beginning of your draw step, draw an additional card.
Spells you cast cost 1 less to cast.
Creatures you control get +1/+1.
November 20, 2017 12:36 p.m.
Oops, I tagged the wrong user... MegaMatt13 see my above post.
November 20, 2017 12:38 p.m.
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