Wilhelt, Grave Defiler

Commander / EDH MegaMatt13

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More Mill —Aug. 18, 2017

Made some changes over the past few weeks. Overall I've added more milling effects. Milling really helps turn the deck on.

Dragonlord Silumgar--->Dreamborn Muse: Dreamborn muse is another milling machine. Silumgar is being moved to my dragon deck.

Mind Stone--->Mesmeric Orb: Mesmeric Orb is just a milling machine. I think the deck has enough ramp so I'm quite confident letting Mind Stone go.

Sepulchral Primordial--->Liliana, Death's Majesty: Liliana does everything this deck wants: mills, reanimates, and creates a zombie token. The primordial felt a bit clunky and unnecessary.

Murder--->Noxious Gearhulk: I wanted another reanimation target that destroys as opposed to a one time use. Murder may find its way back in if I feel the deck needs more instant speed removal.

Ashnod's Altar --->Dissipate: The deck needs counters to protect the zombie army. Ashnod's Altar may return if I need another sac outlet.

Dread Summons ---> Monastery Siege: Dread Summons sometimes was inconsistent given how much mana is being pumped into it. Monastery Siege gives incremental mill value over time.

Victimize ---> Puppeteer Clique: Swapping these around again. Puppeteer Clique's ability to grant haste is actually sometimes relevant. Plus, I just like it.

Sgtpopnfreash says... #1

I mean I had a judge call on this but ok if your sure.

August 3, 2017 3:33 a.m.

Hipparchos says... #2

MegaMatt13: Imo you are wrong. Westvale Abbey  Flip creates no token, it flips into a black creature and therefore it has got black color identity. Explanation

August 3, 2017 6:37 a.m.

MegaMatt13 says... #3

Hipparchos, yes that is exactly what I said :) it is black and only black because it flips into ormendahl.

August 3, 2017 10:21 a.m.

MegaMatt13 says... #4

Sgtpopnfreash, I don't know what else to say about it. Every ruling I come across online (and the judge I've spoken to) state that westvale abbey is black and only black.

August 3, 2017 10:30 a.m.

Hipparchos says... #5

MegaMatt13: Haha sry my bad. I totally forgot that The Scrab God is your commander. :D

August 3, 2017 3:28 p.m.

MegaMatt13 says... #6

Hipparchos no worries :)

August 3, 2017 9:34 p.m.

delusiions says... #7

August 3, 2017 11:12 p.m.

VexenX says... #8

Love the off-tribal variant of the deck!!! The mill and control element make it extremely versatile! Do you find yourself winning several games with The Scarab God's drain ability? I can see this type of thing happening here. Has mill been a wincon for you? I actually won a game with week vs The Locust God (and two others) because we has massive hand sizes, so I just kicked Rite of Replication on my own Dreamborn Muse lol! Undead Alchemist in play was just an added bonus haha!

August 10, 2017 10:21 p.m.

VexenX says... #9

That being said, I recommend both Dreamborn Muse and Undead Alchemist!!!

August 10, 2017 10:23 p.m.

Sikening says... #10

I made your deck, with a couple substitutions where I didn't have the cards. I found while playing that I was missing some of my favourite cards for the colour combo, such as Necropotence, Living Death, Cyclonic Rift, Notion Thief, Consecrated Sphinx, Polluted Delta, Rhystic Study, Dictate of Erebos, Nightveil Specter, Butcher of Malakir, Lightning Greaves and Grave Pact.

Do you see any way to put some of these in? What would you remove?

August 11, 2017 9:44 p.m.

MegaMatt13 says... #11

VexenX, thanks for checking out the deck. Yeah, draining is the usual win con in the end. It does this slowly by out-valuing opponents by stealing their dead creatures. I'm considering Dreamborn Muse. She looks like a great mill engine. I'm less sure about Undead Alchemist. I rarely attack with my creatures so I'm not sure that I'd get a lot of value with him.

Sikening, thanks for trying out the deck :) Two of the cards you mentioned are banned in my playgroup: Cyclonic Rift and Consecrated Sphinx. I'd play with them if they weren't banned though. I had previously tried Grave Pact and the other edict effects. They were ok but I found I'm not running enough sac outlets to make them activate consistently. I found targeted removal or boardwipes to be more useful in here. If you love them though, they certainly on theme with the control direction of the deck.

Notion Thief, Necropotence, and Rhystic Study are all great cards that I use in different decks. I just wanted to run different card advanatage effects in here and find milling to be a very effect pseudo card draw that fuels the Scarab God.

I personally wouldn't do Nightveil Specter since it's an attack trigger. I find I rarely attack with my creatures. That's why I like Gonti. Similar effect but triggers at ETB.

Puppeteer Clique, Sepulchral Primordial, Murder, Wonder and maybe one counterspell are cards that are on the cusp of getting cut for me so those may be where you want to look to cut :)

August 11, 2017 10:48 p.m.