The Further Proliferation of Terrible Ideas

Commander / EDH* Combo Counters Turns Voltron

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Land (37)

• 1x Ancient Tomb
• 1x Arid Mesa
• 1x Blood Crypt
• 1x Bloodstained Mire
• 1x Boseiju, Who Endures
• 1x Breeding Pool
• 1x City of Brass
• 1x Command Tower
• 1x Flooded Strand
• 1x Forbidden Orchard
• 1x Forest
• 1x Gaea's Cradle
• 1x Godless Shrine
• 1x Hallowed Fountain
• 1x Llanowar Reborn
• 1x Mana Confluence
• 1x Marsh Flats
• 1x Misty Rainforest
• 1x Opal Palace
• 1x Overgrown Tomb
• 1x Polluted Delta
• 1x Sacred Foundry
• 1x Scalding Tarn
• 1x Spara's Headquarters
• 1x Steam Vents
• 1x Stomping Ground
• 1x Strip Mine
• 1x Tarnished Citadel
• 1x Temple Garden
• 1x Verdant Catacombs
• 1x Volcanic Island
• 1x Wasteland
• 1x Watery Grave
• 1x Windswept Heath
• 1x Wooded Foothills
• 1x Yavimaya, Cradle of Growth
• 1x Zagoth Triome

Instant (27)

• 1x Abzan Charm
• 1x Anguished Unmaking
• 1x Cyclonic Rift
• 1x Dark Ritual
• 1x Eladamri's Call
• 1x Enlightened Tutor
• 1x Esper Charm
• 1x Expansion / Explosion
• 1x Fierce Guardianship
• 1x Force of Will
• 1x Insidious Will
• 1x Jund Charm
• 1x Krosan Grip
• 1x Mana Drain
• 1x Mystical Tutor
• 1x Narset's Reversal
• 1x Nexus of Fate
• 1x Pact of Negation
• 1x Path to Exile
• 1x Return of the Wildspeaker
• 1x Snakeskin Veil
• 1x Sphinx's Revelation
• 1x Sublime Epiphany
• 1x Sultai Charm
• 1x Swords to Plowshares
• 1x Teferi's Protection
• 1x Vampiric Tutor

Artifact (6)

• 1x Arcane Signet
• 1x Lightning Greaves
• 1x Mana Crypt
• 1x Sol Ring
• 1x Sword of Feast and Famine
• 1x Sword of Fire and Ice

Enchantment (4)

• 1x Bear Umbra
• 1x Doubling Season
• 1x Hardened Scales
• 1x Sylvan Library

Commander (1)

Sorcery (12)

• 1x Conflux
• 1x Demonic Tutor
• 1x Nature's Lore
• 1x Rishkar's Expertise
• 1x Ruinous Ultimatum
• 1x Three Visits
• 1x Time Stretch
• 1x Toxic Deluge
• 1x Urban Evolution
• 1x Villainous Wealth
• 1x Wargate
• 1x Yawgmoth's Will

Creature (10)

• 1x Atraxa, Praetors' Voice
• 1x Baleful Strix
• 1x Conclave Mentor
• 1x Fathom Mage
• 1x Kess, Dissident Mage
• 1x Opposition Agent
• 1x Padeem, Consul of Innovation
• 1x Prime Speaker Zegana
• 1x Sigarda, Font of Blessings
• 1x Winding Constrictor

Planeswalker (4)

• 1x Garruk, Primal Hunter
• 1x Narset Transcendent
• 1x Nicol Bolas, Planeswalker
• 1x Teferi, Time Raveler

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My first experiment with the Simic color identity was my now-retired, card advantage-obsessed money pit, Ye Olde Rashmi List. I really enjoyed everything that this color combination brought to the table, and the manipulation of +1/+1 counters stuck out as a particularly fun mechanic to exploit in EDH. I had tried desperately to build a +1/+1 counter subtheme into my Rashmi deck, but I simply couldn't squeeze it in beside everything else happening there. Fortunately, with the release of Ramos, Dragon Engine in Commander 2017, I found a perfect vehicle for this strategy. At the time, each color of the pie was represented in exactly two of my decks, so building a five-color commander had some deep-seated compulsive appeal to me. The final straw was Jimmy Wong's excellent Deck Tech (partially listed here: Ramos Dragon Engine - Jimmy), a legendary-heavy brew that significantly influenced both my initial decision to pull the trigger and, to a certain extent, the deck that you see before you today.

Though the finished product leans heavily into the Simic color identity, the absence of color limitations ensures that this deck remains a constant work-in-progress. The latest iteration is designed to play as much as possible at instant speed, ramping or dropping value-generators (particularly counter-doublers) on our turn, attacking, and then holding up mana to protect Ramos and our key combo pieces. More-so than any of my other decks (with the possible exception of my Grenzo combo brew, deck:started-from-the-bottom-now-the-whole-team-here), this deck really needs the commander in play to do its thing, but as both an artifact and a creature, Ramos is even more vulnerable to removal. In this sense, Ramos is simultaneously the linchpin and Achilles' Heel of the deck.

Ramping into Ramos on turn 4 or earlier is ideal. From there, the deck is designed to prime him for a {W}{W}{U}{U}{B}{B}{R}{R}{G}{G} activation within only a turn or two so. Firing off one of the huge card-draw spells is super important (shout out to big-mana all-stars Prime Speaker Zegana, Conflux, Sphinx's Revelation, and Rishkar's Expertise!).

Top Ranked	Achieved #7 position overall 5 years ago Achieved #1 position in Commander / EDH Battlecruiser 5 years ago Achieved #1 position in Commander / EDH Counters 5 years ago Achieved #1 position in Commander / EDH Five Color 5 years ago
Date added	6 years
Last updated	8 months
Legality	This deck is not Commander / EDH legal.
Rarity (main - side)	43 - 0 Mythic Rares 39 - 0 Rares 13 - 0 Uncommons 5 - 0 Commons
Cards	101
Avg. CMC	3.33
Tokens	Beast 3/3 G, Copy Clone, Emblem Narset Transcendent, Spirit 1/1 C, Wurm 6/6 G
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