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The Fly and The Fish - Grixis Delver

Modern Delver U/B/R (Grixis)

knudthedude


Description

I have heard from many sides that the Delver of Secrets  Flip version of Grixis is not as good as other Grixis versions like control. I for myself always fell for that little Human Wizard. I love how he most often does some bad lab-tech work and transforms due to an horrible lab accidient. Unfortunately does he also very often do excellent work and refuses to flip.

However do I refuse to change my Grixis Deck into a shell without this little helper since he can fly one to victory. Becoming accompanied by his big friends like Tasigur, the Banana King and the Zombie-Fish Gurmag the Deck becomes a fast and threat-fireing Powerhouse.

It is a lot of fun to add play action using your graveyard with the Delve Creatures (Tasigur, the Golden Fang, Gurmag Angler) or with your Snapcaster Mage and the addition of Kolaghan's Command.

Updates

Changes for an AER meta:

Added two copies of fatal push and one Young pyromancer (I replaced two Liliana the last hope and one terminate)I brought in a dispel for a spell Snare. I just have the feeling that a dispel might be very helpful.

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Eiyros says... #1

I don't like remand but I know it's popular in these types of decks. Countersquall might be a challenge to cast so maybe negate instead of that

January 21, 2017 4:27 p.m.

Eiyros says... #3

I would honestly cut the last remand for a mana leak

January 21, 2017 5:39 p.m.

Dabean27 says... #4

A full playset of bolt and push

January 22, 2017 9:28 a.m.

Eiyros says... #5

2 push is enough

January 22, 2017 12:08 p.m.

Wonky.wombat. says... #6

I think maybe two more lands would be good, as you are basically a tempo deck, and 19 is not a lot, with that many you are likely to get about 2 lands in your opening hand, and you really want around three.

January 26, 2017 5:42 p.m.

Dabean27 says... #7

I disagree push is the best removal in years a full playset is required

January 26, 2017 5:53 p.m.

Eiyros says... #8

Not in delver 2 is fine, though push is amazing

January 26, 2017 10:54 p.m.

knudthedude says... #9

Dear Dabean27,

thank you for commenting and suggesting. I agree that Fatal Push is one of the most exciting addition. I currently play two copies but if it proofs to be THE card we might expect it to be further additions will be made. I can easily imagine to run three. I can't see a playset at the moment. Even though modern is a fast format do we stumble on high cmc creatures from time to time. Terminate is the card which takes care of these.

Thank you

Knud

January 27, 2017 9:03 a.m.

knudthedude says... #10

Dear Wonky.wombat.,

thank you for sharing your opinion.

I disagree! Starting with two mana is fine since we do not need land number three before turn three!

Half of my deck can be cast with one mana. If I go back to playing a Creeping Tar Pit more lands could be useful but I am satisfied about my draws at the moment.

Keep it up and suggest your ideas since we are all profiting on it.

Knud

January 27, 2017 9:09 a.m.

Teddyjunior11 says... #11

if your not playing a multiple amount of pyromancer then why are you playing it in the first place.

http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/14-11-16-Nqj-grixis-delver/

This is my list that Kevin Jones and Ryan Overturf both help me make while talking to them at an Open. The only difference between this list and what they play is a terminate for a dismember

February 2, 2017 11:44 a.m.

Teddyjunior11 says... #12

also wasting space for ancestral visions is just that. your a temp deck and why delver cant support ancestral in the side in the first place because it is such a huge tempo loss when you go turn 1 vision instead of hold up like Spell Snare or a cantrip. also Anger of the gods is really bad because it kills your board as well. If it is hate for dredge I recommend Surgical Extraction great with Snapcaster Mage and young pyromancer and is incidentally good in other matchups.

February 2, 2017 11:51 a.m.

Teddyjunior11 says... #13

Blood Moon also seems really bad as it hurts our mana base a lot and yeah it shuts down tron for like three turns but I would rather have perfect mana base. Instead of Vampiric Link try another Collective Brutality its great for all the aggressive turn 4 decks in Modern. No more than 2 in the 75 because they can be clunky if you draw two in the opener. Another thing to surgical is that works really well with those Fulminator Mage you have in the board.

February 2, 2017 11:56 a.m.

Teddyjunior11 says... #14

Something to think about that is better than Ancestral is Desolate Lighthouse because card selection is better than just raw card draw.

February 2, 2017 11:57 a.m.

Teddyjunior11 says... #15

if you don't want my advice that is fine just some suggestions to look into if you are getting ready for a big tournament.

February 2, 2017 11:58 a.m.

knudthedude says... #16

Hi Teddyjunior11,

thank you for your advice. Suggestions are always welcome!I admire Kevin Jones lists and playstyle. I am only playing at our local fnm, no tournaments yet at all. I just love this deck. Form time to time I get different decks handed (Junk, Affinity, Infect) but they all seem slightly boring (hope to not offend anyone).

I recently got my first copy of Surgical Extraction which will be added for that Blood Moon. I even played two moons in my sideboard but playing around them is difficult and with four hastelands it is even harder.

Ancestral Vision worked very well for my grindy matchups and of course do you always have to navigate your way through difficult choices. That is what makes that deck so spicy. I like the idea of having the Desolate Lighthouse and a copy of Painful Truths instead. I will give both options a try and see whats best for my meta.

Vampiric Link is an awsome card and my personal favorite against burn but I will think of replacing it with that sideboard Collective Brutality.

Anger of the Gods is probably liek many other cards dicussable. Boardwipes are good and anger fullfills that roll well. I do indeed need another sideboard slot for my thrid Fulminator Mage. Further suggestions?

Please try to collect your ideas, suggestions and remarks into one comment. That helps people keeping the overview.

Best,

Knud

February 2, 2017 1:22 p.m.

Parkerfear says... #18

Hi thereYou commented on my list a while ago, I really like your list, the sideboard is where I see some things I haven't seen much. I mostly question the ancestral vision and lack of anger. Anger is so good against a large portion of the meta, such as dredge, fish, elves, etc. So I mostly wonder what kind of results you've seen with ancestral?

March 5, 2017 5:40 p.m.

Teddyjunior11 says... #19

I prefer Engineered over anger simply for the reason that dredge shares 8 2dropsMerfolk is the dame with 2 drops and less color intensive

March 5, 2017 8:19 p.m.

Seppuku_Fox says... #20

I wanna start off with congratulations on how far your deck has been upgraded. You commented on my deck awhile ago and I play several decks all at the same time. I have moved away from Modern since dredge became too popular at my LGS but since the banning I have started to get back into Modern semi-competitively.

Depending on your meta....1 Terminate is too few against more powerful decks like Abzan midrange/control, Tron, and Bant Eldrazi. 1 deck in particular is Eldrazi Bant is 60%/40% against you because of its pure value build. Offsetting that is cards like Ceremonious Rejection and Terminate. I do not know your meta and I have already spoken about my believe on spell snare but those two cards I feel will be good additions to your deck. More Terminates and fewer Fatal Pushes. In Terms of Ancestral Vision as a card draw advantage versus control decks. I would recommend the newly printed Glimmer of Genius but scry 2 and draw 2 at instant speed is so much value for a midrange/tempo deck.

In terms of other sideboard choices. Fulmigatpr + Surgical Extraction vs decks that rely heavily on lands such as Tron is much better in an aggro format (Naya Zoo, Affinity, Death Shadow) vs. Blood Moon and Surgical Extraction/Extirpate in a (Nahiri and Jeskai/Azoirous) control format. I believe at the moment that Grixis Delver is better positioned than Grixis Control against most decks. Good Luck and Have Fun. Cheers!

March 20, 2017 10:48 p.m.

knudthedude says... #21

Dear all,

thank you for giving feedback!

Dear Parkerfear I do agree with Teddyjunior11 that in general Engineered Explosives is better than Anger of the Gods. Furthermore is my sideboardspace currentnly too crowded for anger.

Dear Seppuku_Fox thank you for all the suggentions. Maybe you are correct that I should play two terminates. I did just remove the Dreadbore for one more Terminate. I do not have the feeling that the Dreadbore is actually meta relevant.

I thought about Ceremonious Rejection and I do like it. I will try to get my hands on a copy to try it out. It would probably also come in very handy vs affinity.

Glimmer of Genius could be tried out but I do think that it is too costy with cmc of 4. Always also thinking about Painful Truths. I might switch cards around soon and try Painful Truths and Desolate Lighthouse both as one of in my sideboard leaving me with another slot for something different.

Fulminator Mage will soon be given to my brothers Junk sideboard leaving me with two copies of Crumble to Dust vs tron and -shift decks.

BTW just went second at the local fnm only loosing vs Jund.

Let me know whats up and cheers guys.

March 21, 2017 11:30 a.m.

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Date added 1 year
Last updated 7 months
Legality

This deck is Modern legal.

Cards 61
Avg. CMC 1.95
Tokens 1/1 Elemental
Folders Modern Testing, grixis, Deck Ideas, Grixis delver, Counter decks, Modern, Modern Testing Pool, Utils, decks, redblueblack
Top rank #47 on 2016-11-03
Views 5238

Revision 13 (7 months ago)

-1 Dreadbore main
+1 Terminate main
+1 Tasigur, the Golden Fang main

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