The Family from Sea Gate.

Commander / EDH* GoldenDiggle

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Wolfrage76 says... #1

Fact or Fiction is amusing but there's gotta be a better draw card to use lol

January 25, 2017 1:50 p.m.

chapman.luke27 says... #2

March from the Tomb would be a great add, your best allies are gonna die, you're gonna want them back.

January 25, 2017 11:51 p.m.

GoldenDiggle says... #3

Wolfrage76: I agree, Fact or Fiction is meh at best, it's just in there right now till I find something else.

chapman.luke27: I know I have a March from the Tomb somewhere. I gotta find it!

January 29, 2017 4:25 p.m.

Wolfrage76 says... #4

Deadeye Navigator for your ETBs?

February 3, 2017 4:25 p.m.

GoldenDiggle says... #5

I think that Deadeye would be completely broken for a deck like this. It's the kind of thing that just makes me choose the same allies each time or superbuffs everyone.

Good? Yes. Fair? Not in my playgroup.

February 5, 2017 6:59 p.m.

Razulghul says... #6

Hey, I see Ghostly Flicker is in the list but why not Eerie Interlude? It's great for avoiding those board wipes.

Also what do you think of Unified Front?

February 10, 2017 2:17 a.m.

Grind says... #7

Hi GoldenDiggle! saw your deck on the commander thread. sorry for my late comments.
I have never built an ally deck and few tribal decks but hopefully i have some useful suggestions for you.
First we look at your budget - something like Coat of Arms is good for such an ally-heavy deck but is not really a budget card. also you may look at changelings that count as allys, like Taurean Mauler and Cairn Wanderer.
Second, let's look at engine pieces. first engine pieces, card draw; i actually think Fact or Fiction is great. also great are Impulse, Recurring Insight, maybe something like Bident of Thassa as it synergizes with your going-wide strategy. maybe even Howling Mine or Phyrexian Arena.
more engine pieces: recursion. Phyrexian Reclamation is an awesome 1-drop. Regrowth is great. Seasons Past plus Mystical Tutor is an indefinitely repeatable recusion package in your colors.
avoiding boardwipes: this can be clutch. Boros Charm, Faith's Reward, and Cauldron of Souls are tricks that could give you an element of persistence.

the final engine piece is haste-enablers: at least one of Fervor, Fires of Yavimaya, Temur Ascendancy, Mass Hysteria, having at least one haste enabler can help you get value out of your creatures.
third, interaction. this is up to you how much you want to try to disrupt your opponents with removal like Swords to Plowshares or Anguished Unmaking. also things like Beast Within and Rapid Hybridization. some people like to play the threats and hope for the best. it is up to you and your meta as to how much removal you want to run.
finally, let's look at win cons.
how do you push over the top? some fun cards like Overwhelming Stampede and Triumph of the Hordes can give you some oomph. Mirror Entity is a changeling so it counts as an ally. Mob Rule and Sleep are options.
anyway i guess these are mostly goodstuff options but those are the ideas, some people are really dedicated to tribal but running a few engine pieces can make the deck more consistent and enjoyable to play with.
hope you get some ideas and continue to enjoy brewing and building! cheers and have fun!
postscript i saw you are running clone so check out Stunt Double that card is great. cheers.

February 11, 2017 4:56 a.m.

hoardofnotions says... #8

Shard Convergence- worth it? maybe a Cultivate instead

Darksteel Ingot swap with Chromatic Lantern or Coalition Relic

Lands could use a big update, and it dosen't need to be expensiveall the taplands (guildgates and gain 1 life lands) could be replaced with the tri lands from alara blockArcane Sanctum, Crumbling Necropolis, Jungle Shrine, Savage Lands, Seaside Citadel, and Exotic OrchardReflecting Pool is a better Rupture Spireyou could throw in a couple colorless utility lands and have you filter lands color fix you when needed. maybe add Vault of the Archangel, Reliquary Tower, Temple of the False God, Winding Canyons

Lurking Predators and Munda, Ambush Leader seem like best friends!

Captain's Claws makes ally tokens

Jwari Shapeshifter is the clone you want!

creatures that don't seem strong enoughGoblin Freerunner, Drana's Chosen, Drana's Emissary, Jori En, Ruin Diver (Not even an ally!), Zulaport Chainmage,

ally's you could addAkoum Battlesinger, Bala Ged Thief, Bojuka Brigand, Bruse Tarl, Boorish Herder, Grovetender Druids, Hada Freeblade, Halimar Excavator, Harabaz Druid, Highland Berserker, Kalastria Healer, Kor Entanglers, Makindi Patrol (change for Joraga Bard), Murasa Pyromancer, Oran-Rief Survivalist, Reckless Bushwhacker, Tuktuk Scrapper

you could swap Marshal's Anthem for Patriarch's Bidding

also add Harsh Mercy

maybe cut the Overwhelming Stampede

February 13, 2017 8:14 p.m.

GoldenDiggle says... #9

dlamars, Grind, hoardofnotions

The computer I am using isn't cooperating with me to write a longer message atm, but I'll respond soon!

February 13, 2017 10:42 p.m.

GoldenDiggle says... #10

Hey everyone! Sorry for the long wait, and thank you for your comments and patience! The times I have tried to post, it has been over the limit each time and deletes the text.

dlamars: Both of those suggestions are great! Both will make great use of multiple ETB triggers! I think I have a Unified Front somewhere!

Grind: Hey Grind! I definitely need to look into more Changelings, there are some pretty useful ones. I need to make sure they are on color as well.

I do need more ways for consistent card draw. Fastdraw isn't really something I want though. I have a Bident of Thassa and Coastal Piracy, but I need more options. As far as recursion goes, I picked up a Creeping Renaissance, a favorite of mine, that should help with that.

Boardwipe protection and haste enablers are very good ideas, but what should I take out for them? Maybe I am being foolish, but I feel that once I dip below 40 allies, its all downhill from there. What do I remove?

Overwhelming Stampede is good, the buff on top of a Tazri buff is great, but Triumph of the Hordes always seemed cheesy to me. Really cheesy.

hoardofnotions: I actually get good use out of Shard Convergence, it ensures I have all the colors I need. In the long run its not so great, but for budget, it works.

I do need to update my lands. Buying a few more trilands will help balance the deck out, but currently I am not having many problems with my pool, but some streamlining would be nice.

Lurking Predators and Captain's Claws look really good for what I want to do.

I know I could use an update on the allies I have. I took a few out and have a Drana I want to put in.

February 22, 2017 10:48 p.m.

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