-Counterspell- says... #1

Not sure about this, but maybe you could board out Iona and replace her with Progenitus, as he wins games faster and if he dies you can Polymorph or Indomitable Creativity.

January 21, 2017 12:12 p.m.

Derpachus says... #2

January 21, 2017 12:12 p.m.

packbuckbrew says... #3

I like the deck, just one issue I had from goldfishing is that you have a lot of non-red mana sources. There were times where I had T4 Creativity, but couldn't cast it because I had a Khalni Garden and a basic Island/Forest out. Perhaps you could add Fire-Lit Thicket or Cascade Bluffs to lessen the chance of this.

January 21, 2017 5:56 p.m.

skoobysnackz says... #4

Thanks for the suggestions! Progenitus, Blightsteel Colossus, and Cascade Bluffs have been added.

January 24, 2017 12:07 p.m.

megonia says... #5

Explore over A. Command

January 24, 2017 12:09 p.m.

Bovine073 says... #6

Regarding Metallurgic Summonings: No. Just no.

January 24, 2017 12:19 p.m.

skoobysnackz says... #7

Bovine073 got any suggestions to replace it?

January 24, 2017 12:32 p.m.

Darkrib16 says... #8

Just speaking for him, I think you have enough token generators already. Maybe some control cards mainboard like Remand would be nice, and more like Negate or Spell Pierce in the sideboard to protect the combo would help a lot. Overall, the deck works really well though it can be stopped easily by control.

January 24, 2017 4:08 p.m.

skoobysnackz says... #9

Thanks Darkrib16! I'll add more control cards.

January 24, 2017 4:50 p.m.

Smuggler's Copter? The looting effect would allow you to get your fatties back into the deck, as they all shuffle themselves.

January 24, 2017 8:02 p.m.

Derpachus says... #11

I like the deck tho

January 24, 2017 8:08 p.m.

skoobysnackz says... #12

Thanks for the suggestion AndWelcomeToTheJam, but I'd rather not hit a Smuggler's Copter on Indomitable Creativity and I already have See Beyond to shuffle them back in the deck.

January 25, 2017 2:24 a.m.

Bovine073 says... #13

skoobysnackz literally any other card in the deck. Heck, even Dragon Fodder would be better.

January 25, 2017 2:29 a.m.

skoobysnackz says... #14

Bovine073 it's already been taken care of, thanks.

January 25, 2017 2:39 a.m.

Don't forget that you can destroy artifacts with Indomitable Creativity too. Maybe consider some tempo spells with Investigate like Jace's Scrutiny and Press for Answers so you can transform the Clues.

January 25, 2017 4:08 p.m.

What about Izzet Charm?

January 25, 2017 4:37 p.m.

skoobysnackz says... #17

Thanks for the interesting suggestions Angry_Potatoes and AndWelcomeToTheJam I will definitely consider them.

January 25, 2017 10:34 p.m.

pickelchu says... #18

I swear I just made this deckNice job! +1My deck is based just around getting out the titans it is Turn 4 titans (without marvel)

Also maybe Bitterblossom for another good cheap token generator and a way to get continuous flyers to block

January 26, 2017 5:54 p.m.

skoobysnackz says... #19

Thanks for the suggestion pickelchu, I really like your deck and the addition of the thopter/meek combo! I think Bitterblossom could make a killer Grixis build, but splashing black in an already three colored deck seems like too much.

January 26, 2017 7:08 p.m.

pickelchu says... #20

Cewl Well good job on this deckLet me know how it does against some matchups or at tournaments if You bring it to one

January 26, 2017 7:36 p.m.

casey says... #21

Love what you've got going on here. Unless I missed something, do you just run the 3 "discard" outlets in See Beyond? Have you found this to be enough ways to dump your fatties to avoid too many dead cards in hand? I would maybe suggest Faithless Looting if you're looking for another way to get through your deck. I've got a Mardu version of a similar deck I'm running. More focused on winning with tokens and a Xenagos, God of Revels and Blightsteel Colossus finisher as a back-up. Check it out and let me know what you think if you have a minute A Swarm of Creativity

January 28, 2017 1:16 a.m.

skoobysnackz says... #22

Thanks for the input casey! See beyond has done a good job for me so far but you're right that sometimes it's not enough to dump the fatties from my hand. I've also been considering Izzet Charm to help, but I think replacing Serum Visions with Faithless Looting is the right way to go. As for Xenagos, God of Revels, he does combo really well with Blightsteel Colossus, but would not be great to hit alone off of Polymorph. I may still add him to the sideboard against slower matchups where I can cast Indomitable Creativity for x=2-3.

January 28, 2017 1:46 p.m.

casey says... #23

I agree that for your deck, the Xenagos, God of Revels, while cool when it hits, is probably a bit more of a win-more card. I also didn't think about the fact you run Polymorph alongside Indomitable Creativity. The Izzet Charm definitely offers a bit more versatility than the Faithless Looting. Suppose it'll just come down to whether you find yourself using the other modes much, and if those times are worth the extra casting cost. Especially if they're replacing Serum Visions, that definitely lowers your options on turn 1. I'm looking forward to seeing where this deck goes

January 28, 2017 9:23 p.m.

Clockwurk says... #24

Why 65 cards mb?

January 29, 2017 5:58 p.m.

skoobysnackz says... #25

If you checkout my other decks you'll see they all run 65 cards, I find that it does not affect the consistency too much and it allows me to stuff a little extra value into most of my decks. Generally speaking, if I were to reduce the list to 60 cards, I would remove a land or two and the more specific cards that only apply to specific situations (like See Beyond in this case).

January 29, 2017 11:40 p.m.

Scouty says... #26

Old polymorph decks used to just be mono-blue or blue/red using fetchlands for a singleton Dryad Arbor to polymorph into an emrakul. I dont understand why you're running 4 different payoff cards when you could just run 4 emrakul.

January 30, 2017 12:38 p.m.

skoobysnackz says... #27

Scouty it would be pretty stupid to cast Indomitable Creativity for 2-3 just to get a bunch of the same legendary that u would have to sacrifice, also emrakul is boring.

January 30, 2017 12:50 p.m.

Scouty says... #28

Dont play it then. Polymorph works better as a control deck anyway

January 30, 2017 12:57 p.m.

skoobysnackz says... #29

Scouty thanks for your input, I could have just built another control style Polymorph deck, but that wouldn't be very original, and certainly wouldn't be as popular as this deck has been. I have in fact tried building such decks and they have tended to just get ignored by most people. It's not that I think your suggestions are bad, I think a polymorph deck built around a control shell would work really well, it's just not what this deck is about.

January 30, 2017 2:09 p.m.

pickelchu says... #30

Also Scouty if you were fighting a control deck or a black deck that had Infinite Obliteration or Lost Legacy if they named emrakul they would destroy your whole deck.

January 30, 2017 2:21 p.m.

KaraZorEl says... #31

Oh, that's interesting! I never thought of using Nissa as polymorph bait. I also didn't see Creativity as being another Polymorph card. Well done!

January 30, 2017 9:27 p.m.

m0x says... #32

I feel like the thing that separates Indomitable Creativity from Polymorph is that you can get two creatures for 5 mana which basically wins the game on the spot if it works. Maybe the Emrakul, the Aeons Torn + Xenagos, God of Revels combo or Dragonlord Kolaghan if you really want to run Polymorph.

Some other things to consider are instead of Polymorph, you can run tutors such as Drift of Phantasms.

And your mana base seems a little low on red. I'd use only fetches, red shocks and maybe two basics. Any other lands like Khalni Garden shouldn't count towards your mana count or Creativity will be difficult to cast.

January 30, 2017 11:24 p.m.

hamiam says... #33

Awesome +1

February 1, 2017 1:30 a.m.

leon_bulminot says... #34

Why don't you try for a Jace, Vryn's Prodigy  Flip?? One, it let's you draw and cycle out dead cards. Two, when he transforms, if you're blowing up tokens to drop out your big hitters, you can double duty that card, be it Polymorph or Creativity.

Also, to give yourself a bit more control over what's drawn next, why not add some form of scrying?? If you could add in the energy counter aspect and not destroy the deck, Aether Theorist let's you do it every turn and can be burned up for your fishing. I can see how it might gum up the deck flow but it could also move Emrakrul out of the way to being up Creativity next turn instead. That's an "if you could squeeze it in" thought.

Also, did you consider using maybe even Wurmcoil Engine?? Some life gain, some death touch, token generation to cycle through for big boys...

February 1, 2017 6:05 p.m.

skoobysnackz says... #35

Thanks for your suggestions leon_bulminot! I think Wurmcoil Engine would be a good addition to the sideboard for now. Regarding Jace, Vryn's Prodigy  Flip and Aether Theorist, i have gotten other similar suggestions like Smuggler's Copter and Dryad Arbor, but in the end I would rather not hit a small creature off Polymorph or Indomitable Creativity so artifacts and small creatures are out.

February 1, 2017 11:48 p.m.

sunshine1223 says... #36

February 23, 2017 8:43 p.m.

I'd run some sideboard Dispel for protecting your combo; maybe in place of negate, unless you find being able to counter Scapeshift et al is more useful in your meta than speed.

March 2, 2017 4:09 p.m.

maybe its just bad luck on my part, but i drew into a few too many lands during my playtesting of this deck, maybe run 1-2 less?

i love this deck otherwise tho, +1

March 11, 2017 5:47 p.m.

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