Zur's Zoophagous Zabaglione

Commander / EDH JA14732

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Eternal Masters was NOT a Bust —June 18, 2016

Holy cow, I pulled everything I needed for this deck from EMA. Now with 100% more JTMS and Mana Crypt for those turn 2 kills!

Just have a land, Mana Crypt, Helm of Obedience, Sol Ring and Leyline of the Void to play out those 5 cards turn 1 and laugh as you just destroy the game, piece by piece, opponent by opponent.

Stillgone says... #1

Woah. This deck is just...strong. Don't see that very often.

March 28, 2016 11:21 a.m.

Stillgone says... #2

How does the doomsday combo work in detail? Do you use a carddraw spell to draw all 5 cards at once?

March 28, 2016 11:25 a.m.

JA14732 says... #3

Doomsday is what I like to call a toolbox combo There's no 1 specific way to perform it, but I'll go over the common ways I pull it off in this deck.

First, you will need Lab Maniac, some form of countermagic (Force of Will, Pact of Negation, Swan Song, etc.) and any one or more of the following: Necropotence, Brainstorm, Alhammarret's Archive, Sensei's Divining Top, Sphinx's Revelation or Erebos, God of the Dead in order to perform this combo. If I don't have any one of these, I fetch and order these cards: Force of Will, Laboratory Maniac, Brainstorm, Pact of Negation and Solitary Confinement. If I can, I attempt to just play out the game, holding FoW, Lab Maniac and finally Brainstorming to draw what remains, using Force and Pact to protect the combo. I grab Solitary Confinement at the end because if my combo has failed, I'll sit myself in a corner.

If I have any one or more of the combo pieces, I Doomsday for the others and try to win from there.

Some tips: don't combo out if there's mana untapped. A smart player will simply counter or kill the Maniac. Don't Doomsday if an opponent will have lethal on you. Don't Doomsday if there's a mill player at the table. Play the combo smart and you'll succeed.

March 28, 2016 8:33 p.m.

Stillgone says... #4

Ah, thank you for the explanation.By the way, I think Telepathy would be pretty good for this deck.It seems bad, but it's really good in any controllish type of deck, especially for securing the combo win.

March 29, 2016 12:07 p.m.

JA14732 says... #5

It's easily a good card, just not my first choice. I honestly prefer taking the risk and having to think a little bit more over knowing whether or not I can go off. It's more fun that way.

March 29, 2016 12:24 p.m.

Stillgone says... #6

Interesting. Playing telepathy often stimulates my brain to think more.

March 29, 2016 12:41 p.m.

JA14732 says... #7

Eh, it just feels a little too safe for my tastes.

Weird thing for a combo player to say, I understand, but since this is among the two most powerful EDH decks in my playgroup, playing more riskily is more fun for me, and all I would see with Telepathy is what EXACTLY I have to fetch with Doomsday to win. I enjoy taking risks, so I inherently put risks in.

March 29, 2016 11:41 p.m.

trinitok says... #8

Hooray for Esper!

I found that Exquisite Blood + Sanguine Bond was a little to pricey for a combo. Sure there are ways to cheat it out, but I find that cheaper is always better!

May I suggest replacing them with a Helm of Obedience combo?

April 4, 2016 12:43 a.m.

JA14732 says... #9

I actually have Helm combo in another deck...probably will do the switch for early kills, but I prefer the Doomsday win instead.

April 4, 2016 1:05 a.m.

Holtzman says... #10

Have you thought about Sun Droplet

May 14, 2016 6:02 p.m.

JA14732 says... #11

Doesn't do enough.

May 14, 2016 6:20 p.m.