- 1x Anafenza, the Foremost
- 1x Arbor Elf
- 1x Avacyn's Pilgrim
- 1x Aven Mindcensor
- 1x Birds of Paradise
- 1x Bloom Tender
- 1x Caustic Caterpillar
- 1x Dark Confidant
- 1x Deathrite Shaman
- 1x Eidolon of Rhetoric
- 1x Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite
- 1x Elves of Deep Shadow
- 1x Elvish Mystic
- 1x Eternal Witness
- 1x Ethersworn Canonist
- 1x Felidar Guardian
- 1x Fyndhorn Elves
- 1x Karmic Guide
- 1x Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker
- 1x Linvala, Keeper of Silence
- 1x Llanowar Elves
- 1x Magus of the Moon
- 1x Phyrexian Revoker
- 1x Scavenging Ooze
- 1x Serra Ascendant
- 1x Sire Of Insanity
- 1x Sun Titan
- 1x Thalia, Guardian of Thraben
- 1x Ulvenwald Tracker
- 1x Vexing Shusher
- 1x Village Bell-Ringer
- 1x Yisan, the Wanderer Bard
- 1x Arid Mesa
- 1x Badlands
- 1x Bayou
- 1x Bloodstained Mire
- 1x Brushland
- 1x City of Brass
- 1x Command Tower
- 1x Flooded Strand
- 4x Forest
- 1x Gaea's Cradle
- 1x Horizon Canopy
- 1x Llanowar Wastes
- 1x Mana Confluence
- 1x Marsh Flats
- 1x Misty Rainforest
- 1x Overgrown Tomb
- 1x Plains
- 1x Plateau
- 1x Polluted Delta
- 1x Savannah
- 1x Scrubland
- 1x Stomping Ground
- 1x Strip Mine
- 1x Swamp
- 1x Taiga
- 1x Temple Garden
- 1x Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth
- 1x Verdant Catacombs
- 1x Windswept Heath
- 1x Wooded Foothills
- 1x Animate Dead
- 1x Blood Moon
- 1x Carpet of Flowers
- 1x Contamination
- 1x Leyline of the Void
- 1x Root Maze
- 1x Rule of Law
- 1x Stony Silence
- 1x Stranglehold
- 1x Survival of the Fittest
- 1x Sylvan Library
I have actually been brewing on a TnT stax list myself, the last few days and noticed a few differences in our lists. For reference: Toffee Pudding is what I came up with.
I think most of the differences are that I included more permanent-hate in the form of The Abyss, Smokestack and the like, and Armageddon with Life from the Loam and Crucible of Worlds, which lets me also strip lands for Smokestack. I've tried to stay away from including too many tap effects since my meta has a Derevi, Empyrial Tactician deck that could take advantage of my tapping cards better than we ever could.Including both sacrifice engines and land recursion, though, I feel like my list is lacking a bit of focus.
I'd love to hear any opinions and ideas. Cheers!
June 9, 2017 5:52 a.m.
June 23, 2017 1:08 p.m.
Nice to see a cEDH deck that uses the combat step.
Are there any vids of the deck being played, or are you aware of it being featured on something like Laboratory Maniacs' channel?
July 3, 2017 1:07 p.m.
I noticed you're not running the typical mana accelerants save for Mox diamond. Are you favoring creature based ramp to improve birthing pod activations?
July 10, 2017 10:42 a.m.
@WakeTheDrummer So, I'm a lab maniac actually, and I'll be playing this deck during season two. I know that Sigi has actually played it in one game (but it was an earlier draft, and the game on camera was his first game on the deck...)
@kilgore We drop most artifact mana accelerants because we want to be able to hate them out effectively, and they just don't synergize well with cards like null rod. Things like chrome mox also really suck once you have out trinisphere, tax effects, or rule of law effects.
July 10, 2017 9:27 p.m.
Maybe im just missing something but wouldnt Thorn of Amethyst be really good here?
August 2, 2017 6:23 p.m.
@jesse Thorn is fine, I've just found that tax effects are ehh; I choose to play more rule of law effects instead.
August 7, 2017 2:57 a.m.
Could this list make use of Hokori as another "finisher"? With all the mana dorks, its easy to play through, and gives you just another way to hate on your opponents mana (in addition to moons and null rods) while you beat their face in.
August 7, 2017 9:55 p.m.
What would Ghave be considered for, he seems like more of a build around commander than a part of the 98 in this deck
August 15, 2017 7:10 p.m.
What about Sylvan Safekeeper? Helps keep the main wincons safe
August 15, 2017 9:38 p.m.
@Platt I tried winter orb in the list before and didn't like it. Also, I don't like playing 4+ drops unless they're very impactful.
@fatdroid Ghave seems to make our dude beats plan way better. I'd look at him in the same way Inferno Titan works. Just generates a ton of value, and pumps our dudes who wanna be bigger. If we include skullclamp, he's also looking nice.
@Lorderos Its possible? I don't focus on the combo too much, but it seems okay. If you want to play it in your version I'd say go for it. I just find that I beat down more than rush to combo, and he looks ehh outside the combo.
August 16, 2017 3:04 p.m.
Can recruiter of the guard be run instead of imperial recruiter?Other budget questionsInstead of original duals can I run check lands? Or is there a better type to replace with?Why the Llanowar waste?Can chrome mox be run instead of the diamond or is that a worse play?Thanks
August 17, 2017 7:29 p.m.
Is there any reason on not running Gaddock Teeg? He seems like a fairly good early game lock especially since this a more combat focused deck
August 21, 2017 1:08 a.m.
@GrimReaper0602 Good news is I actually have decided to cut Imperial Recruiter from the list altogether. He was very mana intensive and not terribly useful. Llanowar waste is in the list because we want to play more BG lands, but we already have the shock and ABUR dual. If you have the shocks/fetches I'd suggest running the checklands. They'd work well as long as they can come into play untapped. Otherwise painlands may be the better choice. Chrome mox is absolute garbage in this list, so if you don't have mox diamond I'd just add another low cmc mana dork, or priest of titania.
I'd also suggest looking at Dan's article on making Blood Pod on a budget. I'll add it to the bottom of the primer under the 'Sample Lists' section.
@Sir_Jinx Gaddock Teeg is low impact in the cEDH meta right now. Most cEDH decks don't play many spells with greater than 4 cmc anyways, but if you think he'd work in your specific meta then I'd include him in your version of the deck.
August 26, 2017 2:20 p.m.
I am just going to leave this here, and ask for people to write a comment telling me what they think.http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/blood-pod-3/
August 27, 2017 5:46 p.m.
Is fauna shaman not good enough or too slow as a second survival ?
September 5, 2017 3 p.m.
Its too slow for the groups I'm in, but if you play in slower groups feel free to add it.
September 6, 2017 1:20 p.m.
have you tried tinkering with razaketh loops instead of kiki?
September 9, 2017 3:25 a.m.
Yes, Razaketh is good in other decks. Not this one; its a slot intensive combo, and won't kill people outright as easily as Kiki will.
September 9, 2017 11:04 a.m.
I really like this. I've been looking for inspiration as my mono white stax deck has been becoming more time consultant less interactive than I had hoped.
September 10, 2017 3:46 p.m.
If you dont mind, whats the reasoning for not running gaddock teeg? is it because the majority of decks played against have a relatively low cmc?
September 11, 2017 12:53 p.m.
@Monogoodshit Exactly, most cEDH decks don't really have a lot of cards that get stopped by Teeg.
September 11, 2017 1:12 p.m.
Really want to love this deck and it has a proactive gameplan against a lot of the field. But I'm finding it almost impossible to lock down midrange decks
September 12, 2017 11:49 p.m.
@Fatalis If your friends are playing less stormy or traditional cEDH decks. I'd cut out some of the stax that you find to be ineffective against them. Then I'd add buried alive for an easy way to assemble the combo and a few more fat duders. Grave titan would probably help in midrange or things like creakwood liege.
September 13, 2017 1:58 p.m.
Are there any cards you think I could slot in against the animat deck? Played against it several times and it just wrecks me.
September 14, 2017 4:34 p.m.
Just lean on your Rule of Law stuff and exploit the low removal density those decks play.
September 15, 2017 12:29 a.m.
I played Animar competitively for about a year and I can vouch for Luke's suggestion. Animar plays like a pseudo-storm deck. Without Recruiter, Ancestral, or Cloudstone loops it's nearly impossible to win.
September 16, 2017 1:47 p.m.
I'm not much of a competitive player and I know that either of these would be kind of dead cards outside of this one particular situation, but in the event that you do need to go full stax doesn't Blinkmoth Well + Static Orb or Auriok Transfixer + Static Orb allow everyone else too only untap two cards, and us too untap all of them?
During the player before us' end step, activate Blinkmoth Well/Auriok Transfixer tapping Static Orb. At the beginning of our turn, we untap everything, including Static Orb, but since it was tapped during the untap step we get too untap everything. Rinse, Repeat.
I like the primer, really helpful, and I really like this deck strategy. I do understand that this is built for a competitive environment, but do you know of any more casual or budget decklists that I might be able to run?
Thank you so much!
September 22, 2017 3:16 p.m.
September 25, 2017 7:52 a.m.
Is Restoration angel just bad in this deck? Combos nicely with kiki and can generate advantage.
September 25, 2017 3:07 p.m.
Anything in Ixalan look interesting for this? I've been looking at the Ruin Raider. (Raid Bob)
September 29, 2017 8:54 a.m.
Sgtpopnfreash Stony Silence and Null Rod I think are one of the most useful cards in the deck especially when you have competitive decks in your meta. This deck is not really for combo players, you use this if you enjoy giving your combo deck opponents a very hard time instead of winning t2-t3.
LabManiac_Luke, I've added three (3) cards in the deck and I'd love to hear your thoughts about each.
- Living Plane: This actually gave me a lock down win yesterday. T6 an opponent casted Cyclonic Rift putting away Eidolon, my two commanders, Anafenza, etc. but I had enough mana the ff turn to Demonic Tutor and cast Linvala to delay the game further. Then the next turn, I played Living Plane and Stony Silence which locked lands and artifacts of opponents. The next turn, tutored for Elesh and everybody conceded.
- Gaddock Teeg: I just felt that even though he is not as popular now, he still might be of some use. I do understand that competitive decks now try to build their decks as mana efficient as possible but cards like Ad Naus, Mind's Desire, Aetherflux, etc. will be stopped. He did a significant delay in one of my playgroups (that time was a 6-man pod) recently.
- Aura Shards: Since most of our stax is creature-based, do you think this is worth putting in?
September 30, 2017 9:27 a.m.
Actually eerrr never mind. I disagree with myself.
September 30, 2017 7:07 p.m.
Where i can find a graph of cEDH top tier information? It will update automatically when metagame changed?
October 1, 2017 11:36 p.m.
What would be the point of restoration angel? It's just another delicate gardian except it is more narrow.
October 4, 2017 4:26 a.m.
Restoration Angel would be an alternate Kiki-Jiki wincon alongside Village Bell-Ringer and Felidar Guardian. It can be used to reset Yisan or Phyrexian Revoker and it can get extra value out of Eternal Witness, Rec Sage, or Sun Titan. However, I think it's probably not cost effective enough for this deck.
October 4, 2017 9:12 p.m.
There is no need for 3 of those style of effects in this deck
October 5, 2017 3:32 a.m.
I bought and used your exact list for a handful of games (love it!) but was confused by the graveyard interactions: Leyline of the void is fat and RIP only turns off the line where you don't have tana out and have to pod felidar into karmic guide; there is half a reanimation package, missing entomb effects, are you supposed to draw so much off tymna that you discard fattys to hand size? Obviously you can steal an enemy hulk or whatever but some of it is restricted to friendly GY.
October 9, 2017 3:17 a.m.
The reanimate effects are always good with the package of large creatures we run. You're not so much trying to discard then reanimate them, but more just use reanimate to bring back your huge creatures and continue to grind people down.
Leyline beats out RiP because its more in the list to combat breakfast hulk and other decks that can kill us on turn 2 unless we have grave hate super early. There has also been a resurgence of combo decks that really don't like random grave hate.
October 14, 2017 12:56 p.m.
Kataki has been great in the games I've drawn him but I wouldn't tutor it. Following null rod with kataki against someone like teferi puts them out of the game either until they draw a bunch of islands or until forever depending on the situation.
October 16, 2017 4:41 p.m.
Question why run the ulvenwald tracker? Is it because of the meta being small creatures?
October 27, 2017 4:20 a.m.
Stupid question,After running this the other night. Got to say I love it but can you explain the sideboard better? I don't see where Inferno Titan or Ghave come into the picture.
I also saw this has Kiki and wants to do stuff in cEDH. I know Kikicelebrant might be too costly and same for Kikiscripts but what about streamlining the creatures and toss in Finks combo or Deathcap combo?
November 1, 2017 2 p.m.
This deck doesnt need more than two different routs to a Kiki -Jiki combo. Having others would just decrease the amount of stacks pieces you have which is bad.
November 1, 2017 4:21 p.m.
some reasons that tracker makes it into every blood pod list, in descending (IMHO) order of importance: trade bear/dork for lab man/notion thief, use mana you held up for interaction to bash something, delete the odd yisan or consecrated sphinx that survives Elesh Norn.
reasons for inferno titan or ghave: win combats.
i'm serious. fully optimized blood pod runs cards that just hit things for damage. i love this deck so much.
sun titan replaces inferno titan in a grindy build. contenders for ghave's slot include creakwood liege, mirror entity, and others i forget.
November 1, 2017 11:38 p.m.
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