No need for that many card:Talrand's Invocations with Talrand himself in their (I wouldn't run any, personally).
Check out my deck deck:playing-with-fire-17-11-12-1 for more ideas.
November 17, 2012 9:41 p.m.
Thanks for the advice, i'll try incorporate more izzet cards in since its aimed to be a standard deck
November 17, 2012 9:46 p.m.
It's always good to incorporate the synergy they put with certain deck types in a block. Izzet is the perfect example.
November 17, 2012 9:50 p.m.
Hey, why not go back to Innistrad, and throw a card:Runechanter's Pike on a Delver? You got the instants/sorcerys for it
November 23, 2012 5:51 a.m.
Yeah, i'm planning to build it in but i don't currently have the budget to ):
November 24, 2012 3:56 a.m.
You have a good point there. Those lands are a pain in the arse to get. Try using the Transguild Promenades. They actually are a lot of help and they don't cost too much.
November 24, 2012 8:41 a.m.
I might carry them when i get them, but until then i guess Izzet Guildgates will work for me.
November 27, 2012 3:27 a.m.
I am building a really similar deck and I'm planning to exchange my Delver of Secrets Flip for Vexing Devil . I tried Goblin Electromancer , but it didn't work so good... but it may be because o my few drawing cards cards.
Take a look on some of my ideas on Izzet Burn Combo Control [Comment plz].
November 27, 2012 10:04 p.m.
Right now, i am not planning to make an Izzet Aggro deck so Vexing Devil doesn't work well with my deck. I might take out Goblin Electromancer if I playtest it some more and i feel that it doesn't work well with my deck.
November 28, 2012 12:41 a.m.
November 28, 2012 12:48 a.m.
hmm, sounds like a good card to use, i will consider since i have two Curiosity s available atm
November 28, 2012 2:56 a.m.
My two cents would be to take the Cancel s out, add another Dissipate , Izzet Charm , and a Mizzium Mortars . Then maybe take the two Unsummon s out for either two more Pillar of Flame s or just one more and a second Mizzium Mortars .
The mortars are amazing when you're up against a deck that is creature heavy, which isn't too hard to run into now. But if you really want those counters, I'd go with 2 Negate s and 4 Dissipate s for sure.
November 28, 2012 5:38 a.m.
This deck is incredible and cool. Maybe you need of 2 Elixir of Immortality on main deck, I think...
November 28, 2012 6:53 a.m.
November 28, 2012 5:01 p.m.
no budget : Snapcaster Mage <-- that dude is good
budget : his cheap cousin Archaeomancer ? still get to keep on doing your combo
December 6, 2012 1:03 a.m.
December 6, 2012 9:51 p.m.
Why Jace, Memory Adept ? His +1 is the only ability that seems to help in this deck. I mean its not a bad card but to use him to his most effectiveness I would run the m13 uncommon land that eliminates maximum hand sizes. I forget the name of that land right now. I might pull him out completely just because he doesn't seem to fit. I'm making a similar deck, but a little heavier on the counter, called deck:niv-mizzet-master-of-the-universe, and I want to use Chandra, the Firebrand in there but I'm not sure how well it will work.
Personally I don't really like the Izzet Charm . I would much rather have 2 more Searing Spear s or another Syncopate . Also at this point, including flashback, you have 16 pure draw card spells, 19 if you keep and use the 3 charms.
December 13, 2012 10:25 p.m.
I've tried my deck with Syncopate and it hasn't worked as well as with Izzet Charm . In my group, Izzet Charm is much more useful because all three of the options work with my deck. I will probably take Faithless Looting as it isn't working out for me for Searing Spear .
December 15, 2012 5:47 a.m.
December 15, 2012 5:51 a.m.
If you're willing to run a slightly more expensive card, Jace, Architect of Thought is quite cheap at the moment, and he works amazingly with this deck. If you can't afford that, Chandra, the Firebrand is a great card for this type of deck; double burn spells are awesome, and she can shoot things like Falkenrath Aristocrat and other 1-toughness dudes.
Niv-Mizzet, Dracogenius is an excellent card and would fit well in this deck, if you can get your hands on him.
If you're running Faithless Looting , you should REALLY consider card:Runechanter's Pike. Put it on any one of your dudes, and suddenly it's a massive threat.
Hope this helps :)
December 15, 2012 6:51 a.m.
After taking my r/u izzet deck, which is similar to yours, up against several bant control matches I completely retracted my objection to Jace, Memory Adept . His mill option wins games by setting the clock to 4-5ish which is awfully fast
December 15, 2012 4:24 p.m.
I have a deck that's thematically identical, although my instant/sorcery selection is quite different (deck:drakes-fortune). One thing I'd strongly advise you to do is add Epic Experiment as a win condition. It'll let you cast not one, but up to X sorceries or instants in a single turn, each of which will trigger Guttersnipe when it goes on the stack. Even better, each Goblin Electromancer you control reduces the X cost in the Experiment by 1. Also, I'd recommend running at least one or two copies of card:Talrand's Invocation; with Talrand, Sky Summoner , an Electromancer, and a 'snipe on the battlefield you'll gain three 2/2 flying drake tokens and deal 2 damage to your opponent, all for 1UU.
December 23, 2012 8:35 p.m.
Crap, please forgive the double post: If you find that while playing this deck you frequently empty your entire hand, Dangerous Wager is a great alternative to Faithless Looting . (It won't work quite as well with Desolate Lighthouse , though, since you can't flash it back later.)
December 23, 2012 8:37 p.m.
I have tried using card:Talrand's Invocation but it doesn't work as well as i would have originally thought. I agree with you, Epic Experiment is a great card for my deck so i am going to get some soon.
Also with Dangerous Wager , Faithless Looting has worked great with mine because i either use Faithless Looting to get rid of useless cards at the start where i would have a full hand, or at the end where i want Guttersnipe to deal as much damage as possible.
December 26, 2012 6:19 a.m.
My thoughts, add a few more lands. How often can you reliably reach 6 mana to cast Niv-Mizzet, Dracogenius ? At 20 lands I am guessing that you get a little mana screwed....also, Desperate Ravings could be a great draw card for this deck, especially since Goblin Electromancer makes it cheaper to cast. All in all, I love the deck. +1 from me.
December 30, 2012 6:14 p.m.
I still reliably bring out Niv-Mizzet, Dracogenius even with 20 lands in most of my games i play. I don't encounter many super aggro decks so i can still use Niv-Mizzet, Dracogenius as a finisher in the end. Some though i do get mana screwed but most of the time i do fine with 20 land.
Thank you for the feedback :D
December 30, 2012 7:02 p.m.
Hey I have one thought that can make a burn so overpowered that is expensive. Tamiyo, the Moon Sage 's emblem + Omniscience + any burn. What it does is it allows you to play any burn infinite times means infinite damage. Nothing to rely on.
April 23, 2013 7:54 a.m.
Unless this is budget, you should run Lightning Bolt
over Searing Spear
, as it is a strict upgrade. I'd recommend Chandra, Pyromaster
, Mana Leak
, Serum Visions
and Young Pyromancer
for this deck too. Young Pyromancer
comes out faster than Talrand, Sky Summoner
, so it can establish a good board state before you get to Talrand. Treasure Cruise
might also be nice.
October 16, 2014 2:51 a.m.
March 26, 2016 11:42 p.m.
I would cut Jace, Memory Adept for something more relavant like Keranos, God of Storms Because he's more useful for your purposes since you're not an all-in mill deck, and definitely Lightning Bolt over Searing Spear because it's one less mana for the same card.
July 20, 2016 3:26 p.m.
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|Date added||4 years|
|Last updated||4 years|
This deck is Modern legal.
|Folders||Blue/Red, new, Standard, Standard RtR, Liked Decks, Izzet, Izzet, coisas a desenvolver, Modern, Modern possibles|
|Top rank||#79 on 2012-12-07|