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Yeah, I would remove your Planeswalkers and Dissipate s for 4x each of Delver of Secrets Flip and Vapor Snag . That's a start.
i think u need some vapor snags honestly maybe drop some talrand's invocation...also i feel that if you cheapen ur deck a little bit then you'll be going places...some Gitaxian Probes would be nice umm Noxious Revival + Bonfire of the Damned is sick. i like lunar mystic but hes just to expensive...also i don't see a lot that you would use Increasing Vengeance and if u really wanted to to help tamiyo shine a bit more Downpour is a good card to do that with and its good against aggro decks... which i think u may have trouble with. i hope this was helpful and thanks for the comment.
When you copy spells with Chandra or Increasing Vengeance you are not casting the copy. So using Increasing Vengeance you are only going to get 2 drakes out of whatever spell you used it on and Chandra only the one drake. Just want to make sure you realize that, although having a copy of a spell is almost always awesome regardless. I do think Delver of Secrets Flip belongs here to give you some early game or even to just attract removal spells. I might sideboard Spellskite in case you find yourself against a deck with lots of hate at your Talrand and you need to keep it alive to function fully.
maybe some Archaeomancer s would fit well in this deck
Drop red go mono blue instead.
Gut Shot , Mental Misstep , Gitaxian Probe - those "free" phyrexian mana spells make Talrand really shine as you can use them immediately when he enters the battlefield to get value right away. card:Talrand's Invocation on the other hand is just a mediocre, expensive spell that makes you very weak to sweepers like Whipflare , Slagstorm or Corrosive Gale .
Also, i don't really see why Thundermaw Hellkite is in the deck, i mean he is awesome, but where is the synergy with the rest of your cards? Also, Chandra, the Firebrand doesn't seem too powerful here, i mean you don't really want to copy a counterspell and you can't copy a miracled Bonfire of the Damned .
In my opinion, cheap, self-replacing spells like Ponder , Gitaxian Probe and Thought Scour are key elements to a deck with Snapcaster Mage , Delver of Secrets Flip and Talrand, Sky Summoner . In a world with Cavern of Souls , 8 counterspells is nothing you want to have in your mainboard, because sometimes they will be just dead cards, so maybe replace some of them.
With Talrand, Sky Summoner you really need draw spells. Ponder into Gitaxian Probe into Think Twice into Augur of Bolas into a Thought Scour and you get drake after drake after drake.
Personally I like Ponder over Think Twice or Dissipate cause of the control it gives you. Lets you set yourself up for three turns or stop the next three from being guranteed bad. It really helps you dig out Talrand, Sky Summoner or whatever else you may need. This is even more helpful than the flashback and instant speed of Think Twice (which I love) in my personal opinion.
actually Emzed you can copy a miricle Bonfire of the Damned and the X on the new one is the same on the old one. and the plains walkers in this deck are soooooo strong i havent lost at an FNM since i put this deck together, besides if i add in all of these 1 drops eg. Ponder Gut Shot im actually losing quite a bit in this deck because i lose alot of late game power
You can copy Bonfire with the same value of X for sure, but if you miracle it, you have to cast it during your draw step which means you get no chance to activate a (sorcery-speed) planeswalker ability beforehand. Nevertheless, it's not terrible to copy a "normal" Bonfire but for me there are just not enough reasons to include Chandra in this deck. Replacing her with two more Snapcaster Mage s (they basically copy spells aswell but have lot more synergy with Mana Leak or Ponder ) seems like a better idea.
Do you want to shoot yourself? It sucks. You pick the cards you desperately need but without an ability to shuffle or put some on the bottom you're eventually going to gt a dead draw you don't want. You can't avoid a mana flood of shuffle if you don't have mana. The wort part is it doesn't even have a contrip effect. Until it cycles out ponder is the undeniable winner. Thought Scour , Divination and Gitaxian Probe are all better than index.
And since you have 4 snapcaster a good strategy is Thought Scour ing yourself to fuel your grave with instants and such.
I love the idea of some red to fuel Talrand. I have to agree that the Planeswalkers are too expensive for this deck... I think the deck could really streamline the kills. Why not a couple of Reverberate to increase the synergy with a) Talrand, b) Delver, and c) the card:Runechanter's Pike.
Also, Reverberate is an instant, unlike Chandra, so you can perform some amazing Miracles on your opponent's turn, matching their Entreat the Angels or Bonfire of the Damned (and getting a Drake and pumping up the Runechanter's...)
I speak from experience on the synergy front, because I have had great results from Delver a la Drake so far. The mana curve tops out at four, and it can keep things real in early-, mid-, and late-game.
Traitorous Blood is a very good spell - but only against some decks. Against others its pretty mediocre and there are even some where is completely useless: Imagine you are playing against a fast infect deck with Glistener Elf , Blighted Agent and Inkmoth Nexus . Would you really want to steal any of those creatures? Better move Traitorous Blood into your sideboard and bring it in when you need it.
I saw you added Flames of the Firebrand - in many cases, this is not better than Arc Trail while costing 1 more mana which is very relevant because you can't kill your opponent's Birds of Paradise or Delver of Secrets Flip early enough. Of course there is the occasional upside of being able to deal 3 to one target (which is very mediocre for 3 mana at sorcery speed) or 1 to three targets (you won't have that many targets very often) but in most cases it will just be Arc Trail for 3 mana.
drop chandra and keep tamiyo. I think a Magmaquake would be awesome here. Once you have drake kill all other creatures and go for the throat. (not the card) also run Increasing Vengeance over Reverberate over Chandra, the Firebrand . I mean instead of getting 1 copied entreat the angels and a drake IMAGINE 2 Entreat AND 2 DRAKES. also temporal mastery. things like reverberate and increasing vengeance are good. increasing especially. if it is your graveyard it discourages opponents from playing big spells or using their miracles.
You realize Increasing Vengeance says an instant or sorcery spell you control right? It is not going to discourage them from playing anything.
I'd drop two Traitorous Blood for 2 more lands.
Maybe an Intangible Virtue for all these drakes you are planning to have?
No then I would have to add white to this deck, I don't want to do that
Favorable Winds would be possible in your colors but still it doesn't seem like a good choice in this deck.
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| Legal formats | Standard, Extended, Legacy, Vintage, Commander / EDH, Modern |
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| Cards | 60 |
| Avg. CMC | 2.75 |
| Top rank | #15 on 2012-08-03 |
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talrand and friends
krotash says...
You don't need the exalted lands. Delver and card:Runechanter's Pike both deserve spots in here. You DEFINITELY need more lands. You are running far too many high cost cards to be running less than 24. Brimstone Volley also has a ton of power that can be harnessed. Vapor Snag s can help you survive the initial turns.
July 25, 2012 6:59 p.m.