Surfin' Bird

Commander / EDH* Crocosaurus

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Updates for Ravnica —Sept. 28, 2012

All the updates from the comments have been done (see below) and the following changes have been put in for the Return to Ravnica set:

-1 Island

+1 Azorius Guildgate

-1 Plains

+1 Hallowed Fountain

The following has also been done provisionally:

-1 Journeyers Kite

+1 Azorius Keyrune

To see how it works. The kite, although useful, doesn't seem to help as much as I would like it to. We will see.

Opinions on adding Azor's Elocutors? With the proliferate, could add a (one card) win con,

JasonD says... #1

I don't think Talon Trooper and Aven Envoy do enough to validate a place in any EDH deck. There's plenty of early creatures that do more. Perhaps replace them with Augury Owl , Aven Mindcensor for example?

Also I love Meadowboon , but I'm not sure if he's worth it without a solid bounce-theme. Only Keeper of the Nine Gales and Venser, the Sojourner interact with it really well. Perhaps fit in Capsize instead of the Unsummon ?

How about Stormtide Leviathan as an extra Moat effect and big beatstick? Also, more lategame birds: Windbrisk Raptor , Glarecaster , Gustcloak Savior , Murder of Crows ? And for something crazy / control-ish, Dovescape . =)

I like the tribal tho, you don't see many Bird decks. +1

September 9, 2012 1:49 p.m.

JasonD says... #2

Ah I see you already playtested Dovescape .

I would say True Conviction is better than Windbrisk Raptor - it's cheaper, a little harder to remove being an enchantment, also gives blockers lifelink and the double strike is super sweet. Seeing the amount of creatures and +1/+1 counters you should be generating you shouldn't need Windbrisk Raptor for the beatstick.

September 9, 2012 1:52 p.m.

Crocosaurus says... #3

Thanks!

Talon Trooper will go, Augury Owl will be put in.Aven Envoy has actually proved really useful, purely from the benefits he receives. He gets +2/+2 from Aven Brigadier , +x/+x from Kangee and benefits from card:Soulcatchers' Aerie, as well as all the other buffs, for only a 1 mana drop. I will have to think about taking him out.

I did indeed test Dovescape , it only got taken out due to the fact everyone's birds benefit from Kangee/Brigadier/etc, meaning people got some crazy amounts of birds out. And, it gives them something to attack with (Magus of the Moat ). On the topic of the moat, I will have to include Stormtide Leviathan . I will probably take out the Envoy (however much I love him) for it.

Unsummon is replaced by Capsize , Glarecaster replaces Coat of Arms (man, was the coat of arms got annoying in some games I played).

Thanks again!

September 10, 2012 7:20 a.m.