Narset, Master of Chain Reaction

Commander / EDH* markszncd

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Erutan9 says... #1

This deck list is insanely fun to play. How does it play against other Tier 1 decks like Zur, Brago and Derevi? I play in a tier one meta group but haven't seen those decks in particular yet.

February 15, 2017 9:22 p.m.

Roan says... #2

Love the deck, and am thinking I might build something similar to try out in my competitive playgroup. I'm curious, have you tried Mizzix's Mastery? It seems like it could be like a redundancy for either an extra combat or an extra turn from one of the spells that doesn't exile itself, either that or stringing together a bunch of spells in your graveyard as a possible win condition.

March 5, 2017 2:40 a.m.

markszncd says... #3

The problem with cards like Mizzix's Mastery and Spelltwine is that if they're the first cards you reveal on the first attack, you might not be able to continue attacking. I've already got enough pieces in the deck to make combo works, so I wouldn't use them. They're still usable and can be used to replace Capture of Jingzhou for budgeting.

March 5, 2017 7:43 a.m.

Entrei says... #4

Take out the creatures and put in Proteus Staff. Lets you rearrange your library however you want, essentially making it gg (enter the infinite omniscience)

March 9, 2017 9:35 a.m.

markszncd says... #5

Those creatures are too good! There's no way I'm dropping them. Moreover I don't need to rearrange the deck for the combo to work

March 9, 2017 10:21 a.m.

RivenEsq says... #6

I feel like those who suggest the Staff combo fundamentally don't understand the level of disruption that this deck needs to play through and how difficult that would become without the creature package.

March 13, 2017 2:08 a.m.

Erutan9 says... #7

How does the deck handle a meta that plays a lot of control, mana denial, land destruction, etc? I run a list that is extremely close to this one, and it's only downfall is its inconsistency of resolving Narset in time to swing. Even with the high level of rocks, deck manipulation and powerful combo effects, it's one downfall seems to be its ability to resolve AND swing. Decks like Zur, Derevi, etc can all fight the entire board, whereas Narset seems dependent and centered around it's singular goal of swinging. Do you find that you can fight through those types of meta decks? Or does it become a board state where you are watching everyone around you fight while you hope to get a chance to cast narset for a 2nd 3rd, 4th time etc?

March 16, 2017 7:28 p.m.

RivenEsq says... #8

Erutan9 you're rolling the dice if you play her without backup and she can't generally come down early enough and swing on the same turn any more post-mulligan change to do the "all in" strategy any more like she used to. I think the deck is better playing with some wheels, a few more interaction pieces, and a broader package to play through control such as creature package with Grand Abolisher, Chain of Vapor, cheap counter spells (Pyroblast, Swan Song et al.), etc. To run these, you sacrifice some of the more fringe-y mana rocks and the other glass acceleration to go all in in order to be able to respond to Stax, other players' combos, and other players' disruption. The deck becomes slower, but more resilient.

March 20, 2017 5:44 p.m.

markszncd says... #9

The question of whether you want to go fast to outrace other fast combo decks or to be able have protection when your opponents play lots of counterspells really depends on the meta. You can try to adapt to the meta by adjusting the ratio of ramps, haste, and anticounter spells.

March 21, 2017 4:59 a.m.

Erutan9 says... #10

Thanks, that's all really helpful. My meta is pretty versatile and it usually comes down to people waiting for me to pick Narset to play and then just trying to pick a commander to hate her off the board haha. I switched sleeves and waited for everyone else to pick last night and I combo'd out like 4 times lol. I put some minor deck manipulation in and put a few cheap counter spells in like you suggested, but overall she still seems stable enough to play through some minor hate.

March 21, 2017 9:26 p.m.

KingMotus says... #11

Any suggestions on budget alternatives to ravages, capture, and mana drain? Is running the aggravated assault + sofaf combo good? I put swan song instead of mana drain to serve as another counter but it feels like just putting another mana rock would make it better.

March 27, 2017 11:07 a.m.

markszncd says... #12

There are some stuff you might consider using: cataclysm, winter orb, static orb, swan song, pyroblast, red elemental blast, silence, dispel, flusterstorm, and stitch in time... those are cards that into mind so far. If you asked for my opinion, I wouldn't use that combo in this deck.

March 27, 2017 12:14 p.m.

LordNazahn says... #13

Hey, so I saw this deck and think it is neat, but I'm not super familiar with the specific rulings of MTG so I ask this:

With the Enter the Infinite win con..how is it you don't lose? When you attack with Narset and have only Omniscience in library she has to Exile 4 cards, but you have only one, so when she goes to the 2nd exile card won't the game state say you have no cards in library and force a lose? Same think with scroll rack and why that trigger to restock library won't kill either.

Thanks

April 1, 2017 5:32 a.m.

markszncd says... #14

You would only lose if you have to "draw" a card but you can't.

April 1, 2017 8:19 a.m.

Tiger_Rajah says... #15

You should add paradox engine for faster mana

April 2, 2017 12:27 p.m.

markszncd says... #16

Paradox machine would be quite useless for this deck....

April 3, 2017 1:47 a.m.

ccevik says... #17

I got into Commander with Narset as my first commander deck. I retired it, because even a super-budget version was too powerful and unfun to play against (at least in my playgroup). But it's still my alltime favourite of all the decks I built and got back to her recently and set the goal to make a pimped up (foil and streamlined) version over the long run!I really like your deck and I try also to go for a "competetive" route but maybe with a focus on a superfriends theme. It won't maybe that straight forward but I think this way the deck can stand on itself powering out many planeswalker either with narset on the front or by simply ramping up and playing high impact walkers like Ugin/Karn/Elspeth to control the board (looking at Deploy the Gatewatch). And with the basic theme of extra turns, I can tick up the walker to use their ultimates (like Chandra, Torch of Defiance) or simply win the same way like you. It is honestly a more playful version but still quite competetive I think! Any thoughts on that?

April 18, 2017 5:26 a.m.

RivenEsq says... #18

ccevik my "casual" (more like 75%) version of Narset runs super friends and no extra turns/combats. The only walkers in my competitive version are JTMS and Chandra, ToD. Most of the others are either too slow or not impactful enough in a competitive list. Even Chandra is on the edge, but is a pet card of mine that I think fits well in the deck's shell. Those spots you are using on PWs are just too valuable for other things to enhance the speed of the deck. Narset, however, is just a powerhouse by herself and casting stuff for free will always be good, so even your list is likely to do well against the average EDH player. Against other competitive lists (what you'd ideally want to face with a competitive Narset deck or it isn't really a challenge), a PW version will likely get crushed. It's just too much inefficiency with the exception of a few viable PWs.

April 18, 2017 2:57 p.m.

tcooke2 says... #19

Why Weathered Wayfarer instead of Land Tax? Land Tax thihns your deck better, comes in off of Narset and isn't a creature.

April 23, 2017 1:38 a.m.

D2Toaster says... #20

Cause Weathered Wayfarer can fetch for lands like Ancient Tomb and Cavern of Souls.

April 23, 2017 5:11 a.m.

Rellos says... #21

Have you thought about or tested Idyllic Tutor for another Omniscience tutor? How do you feel about the idea?

April 23, 2017 10:25 a.m. Edited.

markszncd says... #22

I wouldn't want that in my hand. That's why i use enlightened tutor.

April 23, 2017 11:58 a.m.

desmondgomes says... #23

Have you thought about Dream Halls?

April 24, 2017 11:29 p.m.

Hey, super interested in the build. Looking into playing it maybe with a stax package and second sun added, would it be too much trouble to let me know how much this deck costs not foiled out? Which is equally super impressive

May 7, 2017 2:39 a.m.

markszncd says... #25

Dream hall is not bad but i just dont have any slot for it.

To Chandra_Ablaze_it_420 2000 maybe?

May 7, 2017 2:56 a.m.