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This deck is VERY COMPETITIVE. It's been tested constantly for over a year and it's now pretty close to optimized. There are several types of Narset EDH deck you can find on Tappedout, and I believe this type is the most consistent and competitive one.

The main strategy of playing this deck is to get Narset out and attack to trigger her ability as early as possible. Once you attack for the first time, your opponents are very likely to have no more turn of their own for the rest of the game.

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  • Manage to attack for the first time without any blocking creature or creatures big enough to kill Narset. Normally a turn-three Narset and a turn-four attack is on average. Sometimes a turn-two or even turn-one Narset is possible if Magic God is on your side. Once her ability is triggered, chances are that one or more extra turn/ combat phase cards can be cast without paying their mana costs. And with the extra turn / combat phase you get, you can have more and more combat phases and extra turns for more ability triggering. Usually when you get 2 or 3 extra turns or combat phases with Narset on board, you opponents would just scoop and start another game.

  • A land destruction card like Armageddon, Catastrophe, or Sunder exiled with Narset's ability could just end the game. Without having any land on board and Narset on the battlefield, your opponents can have very small chances to win the game.

  • Last and the simplest one, exiling Enter the Infinite with Narset's ability. It can be achieved by Personal Tutor, Mystical Tutor, Long-Term Plans or simply just luck. The First Step: cast Enter the Infinite and then put Omniscience back to your library. The Second Step: Exiling two red cards which are useless for the rest of the game for example like Need for Speed, Mass Hysteria or Ashling's Prerogative to cast Fury of the Horde OR if Fury of the Horde has been used previously, just use ramping artifact or spells like Mana Crypt, Sol Ring, Mox Diamond, etc. to cast Seize the Day or Relentless Assault. The Third Step: Attack and then cast Omniscience. Cast all the extra turn / combat phase cards and then Beacon of Tomorrows should be on the top of your library. Therefore, whenever you attack with Narset for the rest of that turn, you can get one more extra turn. After all this, you should have at least one opponent killed by commander damage and about 20 extra turns. The Fourth step: Return cards back to your library using Scroll Rack so you'll have cards to draw. OR Forget about returning cards to your library and leave only Beacon of Tomorrows there.

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As I said in the previous section, my win cons include casting Enter the Infinite, land destruction, and revealing several extra turn / combat phase spells and eventually finding Enter the Infinite.

So what's the percentage of winning for each attack?

First of all I presume that revealing Enter the Infinite, Armageddon, Catastrophe, Ravages of War, Sunder, and Boom/Bust as winning. And I disregard the possibility of those spells being countered. And the chance of winning for each blind attack (suppose that I don't use any card in my hand to increase the odd of revealing any card) is:

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Updates

I've added Temporal Cascade as a way to empty all players' hands and graveyards on early turns. Hopefully it'd be as good as destroying lands. It's also a card for me to have a chance retrieving cards from the graveyard when I need to do so for whatever reason.

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markszncd says... #1

The problem with cards like Mizzix's Mastery and Spelltwine is that if they're the first cards you reveal on the first attack, you might not be able to continue attacking. I've already got enough pieces in the deck to make combo works, so I wouldn't use them. They're still usable and can be used to replace Capture of Jingzhou for budgeting.

March 5, 2017 7:43 a.m.

Entrei says... #2

Take out the creatures and put in Proteus Staff. Lets you rearrange your library however you want, essentially making it gg (enter the infinite omniscience)

March 9, 2017 9:35 a.m.

markszncd says... #3

Those creatures are too good! There's no way I'm dropping them. Moreover I don't need to rearrange the deck for the combo to work

March 9, 2017 10:21 a.m.

RivenVII says... #4

I feel like those who suggest the Staff combo fundamentally don't understand the level of disruption that this deck needs to play through and how difficult that would become without the creature package.

March 13, 2017 2:08 a.m.

Erutan9 says... #5

How does the deck handle a meta that plays a lot of control, mana denial, land destruction, etc? I run a list that is extremely close to this one, and it's only downfall is its inconsistency of resolving Narset in time to swing. Even with the high level of rocks, deck manipulation and powerful combo effects, it's one downfall seems to be its ability to resolve AND swing. Decks like Zur, Derevi, etc can all fight the entire board, whereas Narset seems dependent and centered around it's singular goal of swinging. Do you find that you can fight through those types of meta decks? Or does it become a board state where you are watching everyone around you fight while you hope to get a chance to cast narset for a 2nd 3rd, 4th time etc?

March 16, 2017 7:28 p.m.

RivenVII says... #6

Erutan9 you're rolling the dice if you play her without backup and she can't generally come down early enough and swing on the same turn any more post-mulligan change to do the "all in" strategy any more like she used to. I think the deck is better playing with some wheels, a few more interaction pieces, and a broader package to play through control such as creature package with Grand Abolisher, Chain of Vapor, cheap counter spells (Pyroblast, Swan Song et al.), etc. To run these, you sacrifice some of the more fringe-y mana rocks and the other glass acceleration to go all in in order to be able to respond to Stax, other players' combos, and other players' disruption. The deck becomes slower, but more resilient.

March 20, 2017 5:44 p.m.

markszncd says... #7

The question of whether you want to go fast to outrace other fast combo decks or to be able have protection when your opponents play lots of counterspells really depends on the meta. You can try to adapt to the meta by adjusting the ratio of ramps, haste, and anticounter spells.

March 21, 2017 4:59 a.m.

Erutan9 says... #8

Thanks, that's all really helpful. My meta is pretty versatile and it usually comes down to people waiting for me to pick Narset to play and then just trying to pick a commander to hate her off the board haha. I switched sleeves and waited for everyone else to pick last night and I combo'd out like 4 times lol. I put some minor deck manipulation in and put a few cheap counter spells in like you suggested, but overall she still seems stable enough to play through some minor hate.

March 21, 2017 9:26 p.m.

KingMotus says... #9

Any suggestions on budget alternatives to ravages, capture, and mana drain? Is running the aggravated assault + sofaf combo good? I put swan song instead of mana drain to serve as another counter but it feels like just putting another mana rock would make it better.

March 27, 2017 11:07 a.m.

markszncd says... #10

There are some stuff you might consider using: cataclysm, winter orb, static orb, swan song, pyroblast, red elemental blast, silence, dispel, flusterstorm, and stitch in time... those are cards that into mind so far. If you asked for my opinion, I wouldn't use that combo in this deck.

March 27, 2017 12:14 p.m.

LordNazahn says... #11

Hey, so I saw this deck and think it is neat, but I'm not super familiar with the specific rulings of MTG so I ask this:

With the Enter the Infinite win con..how is it you don't lose? When you attack with Narset and have only Omniscience in library she has to Exile 4 cards, but you have only one, so when she goes to the 2nd exile card won't the game state say you have no cards in library and force a lose? Same think with scroll rack and why that trigger to restock library won't kill either.

Thanks

April 1, 2017 5:32 a.m.

markszncd says... #12

You would only lose if you have to "draw" a card but you can't.

April 1, 2017 8:19 a.m.

Tiger_Rajah says... #13

You should add paradox engine for faster mana

April 2, 2017 12:27 p.m.

markszncd says... #14

Paradox machine would be quite useless for this deck....

April 3, 2017 1:47 a.m.

ccevik says... #15

I got into Commander with Narset as my first commander deck. I retired it, because even a super-budget version was too powerful and unfun to play against (at least in my playgroup). But it's still my alltime favourite of all the decks I built and got back to her recently and set the goal to make a pimped up (foil and streamlined) version over the long run!I really like your deck and I try also to go for a "competetive" route but maybe with a focus on a superfriends theme. It won't maybe that straight forward but I think this way the deck can stand on itself powering out many planeswalker either with narset on the front or by simply ramping up and playing high impact walkers like Ugin/Karn/Elspeth to control the board (looking at Deploy the Gatewatch). And with the basic theme of extra turns, I can tick up the walker to use their ultimates (like Chandra, Torch of Defiance) or simply win the same way like you. It is honestly a more playful version but still quite competetive I think! Any thoughts on that?

April 18, 2017 5:26 a.m.

RivenVII says... #16

ccevik my "casual" (more like 75%) version of Narset runs super friends and no extra turns/combats. The only walkers in my competitive version are JTMS and Chandra, ToD. Most of the others are either too slow or not impactful enough in a competitive list. Even Chandra is on the edge, but is a pet card of mine that I think fits well in the deck's shell. Those spots you are using on PWs are just too valuable for other things to enhance the speed of the deck. Narset, however, is just a powerhouse by herself and casting stuff for free will always be good, so even your list is likely to do well against the average EDH player. Against other competitive lists (what you'd ideally want to face with a competitive Narset deck or it isn't really a challenge), a PW version will likely get crushed. It's just too much inefficiency with the exception of a few viable PWs.

April 18, 2017 2:57 p.m.

tcooke2 says... #17

Why Weathered Wayfarer instead of Land Tax? Land Tax thihns your deck better, comes in off of Narset and isn't a creature.

April 23, 2017 1:38 a.m.

D2Toaster says... #18

Cause Weathered Wayfarer can fetch for lands like Ancient Tomb and Cavern of Souls.

April 23, 2017 5:11 a.m.

Rellos says... #19

Have you thought about or tested Idyllic Tutor for another Omniscience tutor? How do you feel about the idea?

April 23, 2017 10:25 a.m.

markszncd says... #20

I wouldn't want that in my hand. That's why i use enlightened tutor.

April 23, 2017 11:58 a.m.

desmondgomes says... #21

Have you thought about Dream Halls?

April 24, 2017 11:29 p.m.

Hey, super interested in the build. Looking into playing it maybe with a stax package and second sun added, would it be too much trouble to let me know how much this deck costs not foiled out? Which is equally super impressive

May 7, 2017 2:39 a.m.

markszncd says... #23

Dream hall is not bad but i just dont have any slot for it.

To Chandra_Ablaze_it_420 2000 maybe?

May 7, 2017 2:56 a.m.

ejikazuma says... #24

Yo, just wondering if anyone had suggested adding Isochron Scepter and Paradox Engine yet? It's sort of jank, but with Desperate Ritual or Pyretic Ritual you can make infinite mana... and if I'm not mistaken you could Mind's Desire to play your whole deck at that point.

July 20, 2017 3:20 a.m.

superhuman21 says... #25

I would consider Elite Arcanist, Isochron Scepter, and Whispersilk Cloak for this deck. Not all ideal but they can definitely help with continued use of one-of spells.

September 15, 2017 11:02 a.m.

markszncd says... #26

If you actually have played this deck you'll know those really are not necessary.

September 15, 2017 2:25 p.m.

i run a much different (admittedly less competitive) Narset deck. omen machine and portcullis makes for excellent board control. sorry don't know how to tag specific cards. new to TCG

September 15, 2017 8:59 p.m.

rennan0 says... #28

i want to use your deck in comp mode commander 1v1 , and i need to change 5 cards because they are banned from it , do you know some good cards for change? this deck its good in 1v1 commander?

October 17, 2017 6:26 p.m.

markszncd says... #29

MAybe you need more cards to make narset unblockable if youre playing 1 on 1

October 17, 2017 10:35 p.m.

GamingAndy says... #30

Why all of the foils?

October 18, 2017 7:11 p.m.

cheeftnx97 says... #31

For bragging rights.

November 14, 2017 7:51 a.m.

freakingShane says... #32

I had to take the time to comment about how cool this deck is. I never looked into why Narset was a high tiered commander, but after play testing this I have found out why. She is brutal.

For anyone confused about why Narset is so powerful, give this build a play test. +1 from me, man.

November 29, 2017 11:21 a.m.

ToshiroU says... #33

Hey mate,

what a nice and shiny deck u got there! In regards of style i definetely gotta give u a +1.

I got a question regarding the 'competitive' part of this deck. In which playgroup do you play this deck and what are your results?

How would you rank your deck in comparism to other competitive (cEDH) decks? For example: in this quite popular list [List - Multiplayer] EDH Generals by Tier Narset is ranked a tier 2 commander...

Best regards!

November 29, 2017 7:41 p.m.

markszncd says... #34

I'm thinking that why they rated Narset as a tier 2 was because they used a quite weird build as a reference deck. Mine would have been a tier 1.5 deck considering that it's faster than most tier 2 decks while less consistent than tier 1s. As you may have noticed, I ran very few removals and counterspells, that's because I have to maintain the amount of extra turn/combat or land wipe in order to have the chain reaction going. That might be quite a big problem this deck have, which is being less interactive. However, in order to compensate this, I tried to ramp as much as possible to make this deck a totally proactive deck. You wanna be the one who's asking questions instead of providing answers.

November 30, 2017 5:44 a.m.

oo7x7oo says... #35

Rich boss with feature tokens...Are you really saving up for your tabernacle?

December 1, 2017 9:35 p.m.

Shyvana_ says... #36

"Very competitive"

97% Competitive

Don't be lying to us, man.

December 2, 2017 5:55 p.m.

cornpie987387 says... #37

Generator Servant is in the list twice

December 5, 2017 2:08 p.m.

markszncd says... #38

Yeah, because its a mana ramp and also a haste enabler

December 5, 2017 7:44 p.m.

cornpie987387 says... #39

Commander is a singleton format meaning that you can only have one of every non basic land card.

https://magic.wizards.com/en/content/commander-format

Only one copy of any card, except basic lands

December 5, 2017 7:59 p.m.

markszncd says... #40

Its in the list twice but I have only one copy in this deck... you dont know how custom categories work on Tappedout, do you

December 5, 2017 8:06 p.m.

cornpie987387 says... #41

Well i have made my own custom categories before, however I did not know you could list the same card under multiple categories and it wouldn't count an additional copy.

I will just force type sorting from now on, thanks

December 5, 2017 8:23 p.m.

The problem with this deck is that it can't do a whole lot with countering Narset. If it is up against another competitive deck or any deck most of the time, she is way too slow.

December 7, 2017 10:19 a.m.

GamingAndy says... #43

Can you suggest some budget options?

December 10, 2017 7:37 p.m.

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This deck is Commander / EDH legal.

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