Splinterfright Maniac

Pretty damn brutal. What do you do when you accidently put Laboratory Maniac into the graveyard. Do you switch target to them?

September 18, 2012 11:36 a.m.

If you want to pump up Splinterfright easier, get some creatures that can sac themselves and give you good effects (card:Alchemist's Apprentice and Dawntreader Elk are good for this - draw a card or get a land). Also Kessig Cagebreakers breaks games in this kind of deck. I have a similar deck to this. I once swung with 2 cagebreakers and 52 wolf tokens using Parallel Lives at FNM. Only reason I didn't win was because of that damned Platinum Emperion . Which reminds me, get some Naturalize s in there too. Good luck with your deck! Self-mill is so fun to play! +1

September 18, 2012 11:42 a.m.

Ghoultree ?

September 18, 2012 4:59 p.m.

This is a super fun idea! I've played with some self-mill ideas before, but I like the green a lot. I might go to 1 or 2 Mindcrusher's, they cost too much. I'd also add a Maniac so it's 4 chances to pull him.

card:Tracker's Instincts would work well in this deck. You would have the ability to both mill yourself and seek a Maniac. I'd switch a Curse of the Bloody Tome for either another Sands of Delirium or Increasing Confusion (just to get more bang for your buck).

I like all of gruvyslushytruk's recommendations too.

September 18, 2012 5:41 p.m.

I play a self mill deck similar to this also. I splashed black/white dual lands for [unburial rites]. And added [kessig cagebrakers] and [craterhoof behemoth].

September 18, 2012 9:29 p.m.

Two possible suggestions Mindshrieker, Mirror Mad Phantasm.

September 18, 2012 11:42 p.m.

I have a similar casual deck to this so my advice is:Gnaw to the Bone is amazing help as it can take a while to get going or save you from flyers beating you down.

As knight above me stated, Mirror-Mad Phantasm is great I only have one of him in mine but run Cackling Counterpart with him, make a token of the singleton phantasm then activate ability = instant total deck mill.

And as someone else mentioned too Dawntreader Elk is great for early drop that you can block and sac for a land to fill your graveyard and thin the land out of your deck.

But I do like the Geralf crushers for beatdown, I hadn't thought of that.

September 19, 2012 12:05 a.m.

I would throw a few Psychic Spiral into your sideboard. If you're against a deck that has answers to Laboratory Maniac (such as Surgical Extraction type abilities, card:Tormod's Crypt, or just a lot of creature removal.), you can use this to turn the tides, and make it a regular mill deck, rather than a self-mill deck.

September 19, 2012 9:10 a.m.

Come to think of it, Psychic Spiral can target yourself... seems counter productive, but if you end up with all your maniacs in your graveyard, you can spiral to attempt to put them back in you Library.

I think this card may be under rated for a while, until people realize that it could allow for extra uses of cards that you could otherwise only use 4 times.

September 19, 2012 9:22 a.m.

As said above, I play against my friend that plays a G/U self mill, and Kessig Cagebreakers is a game winner. He can swing for ridiculous amounts of damage. Again agree with above comment on Psychic Spiral For if you find that you are coming to an end on your deck and don't have a maniac, you can target yourself and get them to mill their entire deck in one move. Overall amazing deck, I've always liked this mechanic

September 19, 2012 2:21 p.m.

As said above, I play against my friend that plays a G/U self mill, and Kessig Cagebreakers is a game winner. He can swing for ridiculous amounts of damage. Again agree with above comment on Psychic Spiral For if you find that you are coming to an end on your deck and don't have a maniac, you can target yourself and get them to mill their entire deck in one move. Overall amazing deck, I've always liked this mechanic

September 19, 2012 2:21 p.m.

As said above, I play against my friend that plays a G/U self mill, and Kessig Cagebreakers is a game winner. He can swing for ridiculous amounts of damage. Again agree with above comment on Psychic Spiral For if you find that you are coming to an end on your deck and don't have a maniac, you can target yourself and get them to mill their entire deck in one move. Overall amazing deck, I've always liked this mechanic

September 19, 2012 2:21 p.m.

First and foremost, I want thank you all for the input! I was not expecting all this attention for this deck. What is your opinions on Gloom Surgeon ?

September 22, 2012 2:23 a.m.

Needs Mulch rather badly. This deck is going to struggle to hit its land drops to begin with with only 20 lands, and when you're milling yourself it's quite possible you're just gonna pass them by. Mulch not only helps with that, but it also puts creatures in the yard to help your creatures.

September 22, 2012 3:02 p.m.

try artful dodge doesn't mind getting milled and can get through for good damage

September 25, 2012 9:10 p.m.

I didn't even realize that Artful Dodge had flashback. Thanks for the input!

September 25, 2012 9:19 p.m.

great deck, but dont you think that Forbidden Alchemy would be a good replacement for Dream Twist . You control what goes into the graveyard.

September 26, 2012 7:33 p.m.

Forbidden Alchemy is nice, but it would involve splashing swamps or dual lands for the flashback. And its cost is much higher. Dream Twist is cheap and lets you get stuff in your yard fast.

September 26, 2012 8:06 p.m.

Ghoultree ? Where is it?

September 27, 2012 7:56 a.m.

I am not sure why no one has mentioned this previously but you NEED to run card:Memory's Journey. It is your best defense against graveyard hate. Which there is a lot of easy access graveyard hate out there. Tormod's crypt is free and can be put in any deck so. Run 4 journey's plus even if they have no hate it lets you pull your good non-flashback spells out of the bin so you can use them for sure. Plus you can get rid of any pesky Gravecrawler s or undying cards you really don't feel like dealing with. A very versatile card that would do tons of cool shit in this deck.

September 30, 2012 1:11 a.m.