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Hmmm I don't think a 161 dollar deck is considered 'budget'? Especially if none of that value comes from lands.
July 16, 2016 5:29 a.m.
Uri, $141 is not that bad. I mean, for something that's not RDW and is competitive, I'd say that's budget. There can be much cheaper decks, but if you want to win, then anywhere between $100-150 is fine and could still be considered budget. Keep in mind that budget is relative and is dependent on the format.
July 16, 2016 6:54 a.m.
$150 for a solid modern deck that can put up results is frankly amazing.
July 16, 2016 7:02 a.m.
freakingShane 161$ is quite a lot actually. In most decks, 40 to 60% of all the card value rests in the lands (because people like to use pain, shock, filter and fetch lands) This deck contains no special lands at all (beside 2x Ally encampment), so in comparison to other decks, it would be around 263$ - 322$.
July 16, 2016 10:32 a.m.
ChiefBell: thanks, I will take that as a compliment, Chief... And it really delivers... it's kinda weak against burn decks though.
Uri: Hi Uri, thanks for commenting. This deck started (and still kinda is) budget. Also you don't need other lands here, and the Ally Encampment are just for fun. They could be as well be Plains. Mono colored decks should not be running non-basic lands to succeed (at least under my years playing and building). Also, the important thing, this deck ISN'T like most decks, as you are saying, so please don't make a "$263-$322" comparison. This deck's price tag is the listed one ;)
Aaaand going to the technical part: this deck delivers very good results, and could be improved by adding some control o recursion elements... but changing the lands wouldn't help in the direction of improvement. Best variation could be splash of blue, given the case. Also Gideon, Ally of Zendikar is not mandatory in the deck, you could make it cheaper there.
I hope you understand my point hahaha
SwaggyMcSwagglepants: I wrote your name with their blood... nice ceremony, lots of people crying, and many dead onions. Let's hope we can keep sacrificing them! Cheers!!
July 16, 2016 2:46 p.m.
Definately Eerie Interlude over Ghostway, the former lets you choose targets so you can avoid loosing any tokens you'de made from Gideon, Ally of Zendikar. Quite situational but it is worth it just in case, in my oppinion. (And aparently less than a tenth of the price.)
August 16, 2016 4:20 a.m.
I miss when the name was (White as F*ck)...still love this though, Busse!
August 16, 2016 8:29 p.m.
How is under 400 not budget? Also how does this deck win a match of magic. You know infect can win on turn two!
August 17, 2016 2:31 p.m.
Pownu: Much obliged! Thanks for the love... you got yourself an onion sacrificed!
AnonymouSAvatar: Yes... and no! As you said, it's very situational. Ghostway bypasses any protection you might have gotten with Kabira Evangel, and that's the only reason I keep it. Eerie Interlude is indeed best suited for work around the Tokens (now with 2 token-productors may be worth its slot... and for less than a tenth of the price!).
Worst part is that I have the costly Ghostways already... so you can imagine that I want to use them hahahah
EmrakultheGamingBeast: I am aware that there are lousy T2-Infect decks around. There is just one infect deck (' Virulent Infestation) in my meta (T3-T4 win), and usually it's 50/50 chance against that deck; either I whoop his ass ASAP by T3-T4, or it gets me first in T3.
And, actually answering your question, the way to prevent infect-decks from winning is by using Path to Exile and Oblivion Ring. Or Cloudshift a Kabira Evangel, giving color protection to something and blocking.
freakingShane: Yeah! I kinda like that extra part... it'll come back in a couple of days hahaha
August 17, 2016 4 p.m.
Looks fun and I love the allies synergies.
+1 from my side!
August 24, 2016 3:47 a.m.
Found some new combos for my U/W Allies thanks to you! +1!
August 24, 2016 3:11 p.m.
braderus9: There shan't, indeed. Thanks for the vote man ;)
Tanneth: Glad this deck could help you. If you need feedback sometime, feel free to ask! Cheers
Ys_: I also love those sick synergies hahah, it's pretty cool to see the deck escalate when the opponents don't do something between T2 and T4 hahah
Cheers and thanks for the vote!
August 27, 2016 10:15 a.m.
The name is back! Super happy to see that! Just had to drop by a congratulate you for that. Later, Busse!
September 5, 2016 12:44 p.m.
i have seen all of your decks in this "cycle" i think you might have more upvotes than any other user on this website
September 17, 2016 9:36 p.m.
Pyromancer999: Thanks, I'll take that as a compliment! At a quick glance on the scores of other decks... you might be right on your assessment :O!
freakingShane: After you mentioned that, I kind missed the addendum of the name... so yeah... IT'S F*CKIN' BAAACK!
Cheers to all of ya'
September 28, 2016 12:18 p.m.
Other than that this is truly an amazing deck - as I type this I'm uploading your decklist to TCG player to buy this deck for my bro's birthday
October 3, 2016 8:03 p.m.
- BMpatrol: I'll have to Play them both to decide, but essentially they are interchangeable. Whatever floats your goat in the moment and budget.
I'm really flattered that you are building this deck for your brother. Send my regards to him when you give it to him. Maybe a screenshot hahahah.
Cheers and best regards!
October 4, 2016 12:08 a.m.
looks like so much fun! You, sir, have a true knack for building great decks! I sacrifice an onion to you! +1 from me, and have a splendid day!
November 15, 2016 1:05 a.m.
This deck is the best 10/10, I have upvoted plz offer an onion in my name o' onion god!
November 25, 2016 2:41 p.m.
Hey, this deck is amazing and exactly fits my style of game play. Thumps up!Unfortunately I'm on a budget and don't have Gideon. What would be a good replacement?
November 27, 2016 4:55 p.m.
I have spent months hunting for the best modern deck in existence. I declare that there is no stronger deck in existence than this one. Good work!
December 18, 2016 4:16 a.m.
Busse does your username happen to be your last name? I know a guy who's last name is busse so naturally I'm a bit curious
January 22, 2017 11:24 p.m.
EmrakultheGamingBeast The deck has Path to Exile to deal with infect easily. And without Gitaxian Probe in modern, your opponent won't know when to hold back because they can't see the removal in your hand. I'm pretty sure this deck is infect-safe.
January 29, 2017 1:36 p.m.
Ever think of adding Panharmonicon?? The card was built for a deck like this.
February 5, 2017 3:25 a.m.
Hello Busse! You mentioned in one of your comments that adding some blue would make the sodium hypochlorite deck even stronger. What would you suggest removing from the deck and adding to make it even better? Any help would be awesome. T
February 18, 2017 9:47 p.m.
Not necessarily meaning to talk for Busse, but as someone who does play allies, Remand, and Serum Visions helps a lot. Momentary Blink, Detention Sphere, and Ojutai's Command also have their uses, and I personally use Supreme Verdict -- but I play my list with a back up Emeria, The Sky Ruin as a win con.
February 18, 2017 10:02 p.m.
Sweet deck. Looks like just my style! I've provided an onion for sacrificial purposes. I'm looking to branch into modern and I have a playset of Gideons, would you recommend I use all 4? If so, what would you drop?!Thanks!
March 3, 2017 8:47 a.m.
Hello Busse, I saw this deck and thought it looked great so I decided to test it against my extort deck that I made. I've been checking its strengths and weaknesses. The first game I played, your deck won fairly early on. The second game, my won thanks to sanguine bond. The third game I played, had you up over 200 life and me over 1000 before I gave up and clicked for the next cards until I found something that could make either of us win. It went in for 40+ turns. I love this deck, it's very versatile being able to do massive damage while gaining life amazingly quickly if you have more than 1 Ondu Cleric out.
March 3, 2017 1:17 p.m.
This deck is actually insane. I would +1 it twice if I could! Keep up the good work.
March 17, 2017 7:42 a.m.
the mono white version hasnt been doing great for me. a lot of 1-2 or 0-2 matches. not sure if its my meta or what but i am going to try splashing black
March 25, 2017 11:47 p.m.
Adaptive Automaton seems to be missing from the decklist, was that intentional? Love the deck by the way, good job!
April 2, 2017 7:39 a.m.
How about Aether Vial ? What would you swap for those? Wouldn't Cavern of Souls also be a good addition? I know that the deck wouldn't exactly be budget anymore, but I'm trying to find out if the deck could be better if you had unlimited ressources :)
May 3, 2017 6:08 p.m.
I think this deck could use a little lowering of its mana curve. To accomplish this, I'd recommend dropping Ondu Cleric and Talus Paladin for Expedition Envoy and Lantern Scout. Lantern Scout is already taking care of the role Talus Paladin was filling and to give the deck a little more oomph up front I'm leaning towards the Expedition envoy instead of Ondu Cleric.
May 9, 2017 8:33 p.m.
Do you have any suggestions for sideboard options?
May 12, 2017 8:08 a.m.
So, could you take a quick second to update the description to not mention cards you're not using anymore?
Also is the deck still viable if Gideon was replaced by say Retreat to Emeria?
On a different monetary direction, why is this deck modern and the other 2 shown (the blue and green one) are legacy?
May 16, 2017 11:46 p.m.
Ahem, I probably should have mentioned I have yet to upvote the deck just yet purely for checking out the rest of the cycle. Will get back to you.
May 17, 2017 12:12 a.m.
I threw this together to get a rough feel for how the deck would look when budgety. Sodium Hypochlorite (White as Fuck!) Budgetier.Only really interesting thing that might be useful is Judge Unworthy for that ability to find topdeck stuff.
May 18, 2017 9:47 a.m.
Cloudshift really doesn't seem worth it. Either you hold it up on enemy's turn to protect against removal, in which case you only get the counters and life gain; or you use it on your turn and take a creature out of combat. Expedition Envoy is another one mana card that triggers all the allyfall effects, while also being a good turn 1/2 play and puts a body on the board.Similarly, I don't think Ghostway does enough. it's wrath protection, but so is Ally Encampment. I would rather have good mana with a higher land count and powerful utility lands like ally encampment then such situational cards. Selfless Spirit, while not an ally, will do a lot more in your deck than ghostway-type cards. Another card that lets you stay on theme and provides wrath protection is Valorous Stance. Wrath protection is a really powerful effect to have in a deck, but it's hardly ever worth holding a card in your hand and saving mana for.
May 20, 2017 2:07 p.m.
@homestar_ruler: I admit firstly I haven't tested out the deck with the suggestions you give, and this isn't even my deck to bother doing that with, but how do any of those cards fit as being "better"?
Expedition Envoy may be a fine creature but it can't be cast on the opponent's turn in response to a Fatal Push or a Lightning Bolt. The same is true of Selfless Spirit, at least for casting, but the spirit isn't an ally so you'd waste a turn of pumping your creatures if the opponent doesn't try to board wipe.
May 21, 2017 10:12 a.m.
Mono white allies is so good. It's under rated but this is some sweet deck tech. +1
May 21, 2017 11:07 a.m.
Him_Ov3rThere: you are the 1000th upvote!
Hooray for all of us. The questions will be answered soon enough!
May 22, 2017 2:01 p.m.
I like the idea, and am now expecting one fewer onion in this world. Besides that, why isn't Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx in here?
May 25, 2017 7:35 a.m.
None of the suggestions I made are strictly better in the sense that they do everything the cards I don't like do. My point was that the fact that because cloudshift does so little, especially if you don't have a lot of creatures in play, that having a card that is good enough on it's own and still does what you want to do (trigger Allyfall) is always a good consideration. You have only 19 creatures right now and two Gideon's. You will have lots of games where you draw too many cloudshift and ghostways and not enough had freeblades.Similarly, selfless spirit actually does something, unlike ghostway. It attacks. White aggressive decks tend to run very few(0) cards that aren't lands, threats, or things to let your threats get through for lethal damage. Brave the elements let's you avoid pyroclasms, but it also has a normal mode of making the team unlockable.
May 25, 2017 10:27 a.m.
Very cool your deck, I have never been interested in this tribe, more careful looking it is very strong, I would recommend you try using Akoum Battlesinger so you get more benefit from Ally Encampment than in your current plot it becomes irrelevant, perhaps in the place of Talus Paladin that although good is slow, congratulations.
September 27, 2017 2:15 p.m.
Harabaz Druid can also be very useful, in the best scenario to have in turn three a Gideon, Ally of Zendikar in the game four more Allies in the field, great chance of the game to finish in the four turn if there is no answer speed on the part of the opponent
September 30, 2017 2:46 p.m.
-4 Ondu Cleric
these changes are really very necessary, to make it minimally competitive, I do not know if that was your idea with him, according to my own experience, after mounting it as your list I regretted bitterly that I did not make a Mono White Humans spending little more, however I've managed to make it more playable with these changes, try it and see for yourself
October 30, 2017 12:48 p.m.
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|Date added||6 years|
|Last updated||6 months|
This deck is Modern legal.
|Tokens||1/1 Kor Ally, Gideon, 2/2 Knight Ally|
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|Top rank||#1 on 2015-09-23|