Selvala "Twiddlestorm Explorer" cEDH Primer

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Primer Update —July 14, 2019

I've redone the primer a bit, making it more up to date and accurate. I've also finally updated the list to be an ideal list for Selvala, as apposed to my current list, which can still be found in the Additional Links panel.

R.I.P. Paradox Engine, and enjoy the primer!

Fellin22 says... #1

I think this deck should run a stax package to beat stuff like blood pod(less aggressive combo decks) because they will be able to win around same time as you with more protection, and you have to have to slow them down.

May 26, 2019 6:57 p.m.

Fellin22
I've tried stax pieces in the past, and they simply don't perform well enough. More often than not, a Winter Orb or the like would lock one player out of the game without advancing my own game plan or even slowing down opponents very much. I feel that a good stax build of this deck exists, but I prefer a faster combo version and the card slots are very valuable.

May 26, 2019 8:49 p.m.

SP3CTR3_chelts says... #3

Hi I have a very similar selvala deck, but i run a small amount of stax (i am still debating if all of the cards i use for it are worth it). Personally i have kept in the winters orb and Armageddon as it stops people without lots of mana rocks/mana dorks

Gaddock Teeg i find is a great little interference piece and would definitely recommend considering it. even though i run cards that he stops, it definitely stops other people more than me and i can easily win when he is still on the battlefield.

Seedcradle Witch is my other recommendation. due to its white mana requirement it does only fully combo off with wirewood channelers but it is a good way of re using selvala a couple of times.

and lastly Panglacial Wurm ! This is the way to give your opponents a headache (and possibly a nearby judge). If you ever search your library when selvala is untapped look at the top card of your library (without changing the order as you look though) if you want it in your hand declare that you are attempting to cast Panglacial Wurm and tap for mana (including selvala). This will put the top card of your deck into your hand thanks to selvala. If you have enough mana it will be cast, if you do not as per selvalas ruling you can reverse the activation of all other mana abilities (not selvala's) and return the card attempted to be cast to its original zone (your deck) [for use later]. This is literally the best way to get a free scry. =

the rulings for both cards are here:

https://gatherer.wizards.com/pages/card/details.aspx?name=Panglacial%20Wurm

https://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=382357

May 30, 2019 9:52 a.m.

Hi SP3CTR3_chelts,

I think I might try Gaddock Teeg ; it seems good against a lot of the cEDH meta. I'm just concerned with it preventing my own spells from being cast.

As for Seedcradle Witch , I don't think its combo with only Wirewood Channeler makes it good enough. I'd rather play Sword of the Paruns if I wanted a combo piece that also is good at reusing Selvala, and I cut that a while ago for being to slow and mana intensive.

Finally, as fun as Panglacial Wurm sounds, I enjoy being friends with the judges and players at my LGS, and would like to not give them this headache of an interaction. In addition, it would only work once before people knew how to deal with it, and the free scry whenever I search my library doesn't seem worth the card slot.

Thank you for your suggestions!

June 4, 2019 7:16 a.m.

SP3CTR3_chelts says... #5

Glad you liked the suggestions :)

June 4, 2019 8:37 a.m.

SP3CTR3_chelts says... #6

oh also Hall of Gemstone i find is great

If you have an elf or two (or just Selvala) out it does not harm you, as you pick white for your lands.

It hoses down multi colour decks.

Also acts as a partial City of Solitude as its harder for people to cast spells not in there turn (not impossible though) and for the same reason it makes your spells uncountable ish as your opponants land will not make blue in there turn (white counterspells and mana rocks do get round this).

June 5, 2019 6:37 a.m.

Fellin22 says... #7

Doesn’t sword of the paruns, smothering tithe, and selvala go infinite as long as at least one player reveals a nonland.

June 6, 2019 5:46 p.m.

Fellin22,

Yes, as long as no players pay for Smothering Tithe , Sword of the Paruns and Smothering Tithe go infinite with Selvala. However, I don't feel that this is a good reason to play Sword of the Paruns , as Umbral Mantle serves the same purpose.

June 6, 2019 7:47 p.m.