This looks pretty formidable, Vraska the Unseen is just...wow. Godly card. Excited to see what else RTR produces. The flow of this is great.+1'd
September 5, 2012 7:20 p.m.
I think you need a way for Wayfaring Temple to ensure that he hits for the populate. To that end I think you need 2-3 Rancor as you can use it on everything without fear that it will be a dead draw. (Also, it would work for Vraska the Unseen 's Assassin tokens)
September 5, 2012 7:39 p.m.
Good idea.. I'm trying to keep the mana curve where it's at right now. I don't think I need card:Avacyn's Pilgrim as much as I thought I did. 25 lands plus Gatecreeper Vine s gets you the land you need early. So I might switch them out.
September 5, 2012 8:11 p.m.
As soon as I saw Vraska's ultimate, I thought of how great that would work with populate and co. Glad to see someone else thought the same, and I look forward to seeing how well this deck works.
September 6, 2012 12:37 a.m.
There are some great synergies here! I love the super friends, I love the token base. Not a fan of some cards, like Goldnight Redeemer , Dreg Mangler , and Sigarda, Host of Herons , however I love Wayfaring Temple and Geist-Honored Monk .
Overall the deck is pretty beast and flows really well. Hope you can perfect it, cuz this could be something pretty great, in my opinion.
September 7, 2012 3:44 p.m.
Na man. I don't wanna be spending to much life. The only reason i'm using Overgrown Tomb s is because I need a higher chance of double black for Lili, early. I usually nail all the drops I need with Gatecreeper Vine . I don't need a lot of plains mana early. Also, I need as much basic forests as possible because they turn on Sunpetal Grove and Woodland Cemetery .
Thanks bro, I agree Goldnight Redeemer and Dreg Mangler are kinda akward. I'm still messing around with a couple of spots. Sigarda, Host of Herons is beast though! I dunno what you're talking about ;) She's pretty much in there for black match-ups, or decks that run a lot of spot removal/sac'ing.
September 7, 2012 5:04 p.m.
She isn't bad by any means, but if you find yourself needing to make a cut for something else, she may not be the BEST. But if she works your local, then best to keep her.
September 7, 2012 5:13 p.m.
In fact, if you're playing 3 colors, having just one of the shock-lands within those colors will allow any of the Core-Inni dual-lands in those colors to enter untapped.
September 7, 2012 6:40 p.m.
Oh seriously? Damn, I was thinking the shock lands just count as a regular dual lands, and make other dual lands come in tapped. But ya, I see on the shocks where it says land - forest/swamp, as opposed to regular dual lands that just say lands. Well that makes things run a lot smoother.. Thanks!
September 7, 2012 6:51 p.m.
Yeah. In 3-color decks, there's almost no real need to run Basics when you have Core/Inni duals and shock-lands.
September 7, 2012 6:52 p.m.
IMO too many 1-2 ofs. This really kills your consistency in so many ways. You have no tutors so it is just going to be painful knowing you have an answer but not being able to get at it. If they reprint Chord of Calling 1-2 ofs will be fine but with no tutor you're depending on your topdeck far too often.
September 10, 2012 12:33 a.m.
I'd be scared to look down the barrel of a loaded vampire, gorgon or necomancer planeswalker... BUT ALL THREE!!! Damn this deck looks nasty. I'd put in a few cards to protect your offensive force like Duress and throw in a token producing threat that could abuse the populate mechanic like Back from the Brink but that's blue, so perhaps Seance would be better. I'm thinking a couple more Wayfaring Temple s and that Seance will be paying for itself. And maybe a protection/hexproofing spell to protect your most important creatures like card:Ranger's Guile or card:Apostle's Blessing in which case i hope RTR prints one that cantrips itself. Also it'd be funny to have an Essence of the Wild in, it would devastate your opponent to suddenly have to deal with an army of 6/6's that just don't stop coming. Even if they kill the original the copies will still have the same effect as the first :-)
September 11, 2012 1:03 p.m.
Jarad's Orders and Growing Ranks were both spoiled today and would be perfect for this. You can tutor some cards with Orders and get two tokens a turn with Ranks/Lives combo
September 11, 2012 2 p.m.
Deck is really nice to playtest and seems to work fine. I just feel that you could replace Terminus (move to sideboard) and Parallel Lives (this is nice with tokens, but I think those token cards are enought powerful without this) with something like Abrubt Decay, which is just too good to be left out.
Your deck has good potential to be tier 1 type deck, just keep it on that way.
September 11, 2012 5:24 p.m.
I would also place Grim Backwoods with shock lands, your deck is 3 colored and there is some double colored cards too. Activating it takes 5 mana from you and it doesn't sound very good even in late game. There is multiple powerful cards in the deck, I'd concentrate to them with better manabase.
September 11, 2012 5:27 p.m.
Wow, thanks guys. I made some adjustments with some of the suggestions.. I feel good about them. I'd need the actual deck in my hands to tell you if it's going to play test well. The algorithm on this play tester is wack.
I do agree that 2x Grim Backwoods is a little excessive. I do need a some kind of card draw engine though, I am a blue player after all haha. So I trimmed it down to one. Trust me on this one. You're going to have no cards in hand, excessive tokens, with available mana to be spent late game.
Duress is nice, but I feel it's more of a B/U control card. I just can't find a spot for it. I have enough removal to deal with a good amount of things anyway, which is what i'm focusing more on. I don't want to many Wayfaring Temple s because if I get an opening hand with him, he does nothing relevant. Drawing a one of him late game when you already have board presence is more relevant. I should add a few protection cards though you're right. It's just really hard to find a spot for anything right now, the deck is really fine tuned. Oh well we'll see what else is spoiled.
I put Growing Ranks in the side for sure.
September 11, 2012 6:58 p.m.
Actually I just thought of something.. If I add a Seance , then I can exile Elvish Visionary s and Gatecreeper Vine s for further card draw/deck trimming. So I cut Grim Backwoods all together instead.
September 11, 2012 7:16 p.m.
Not only that but if you manage to populate....... lol
September 11, 2012 7:18 p.m.
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|Date added||3 years|
|Last updated||1 month|
This deck is Modern legal.
|Tokens||2/2 Vampire, 2/2 Knight, 1/1 Spirit, 1/1 Assassin|
|Folders||Dark Avenger Decks, Selesnya Standard, Decks to build, RTR, decks to mess with, Old, ideas|
|Top rank||#3 on 2012-09-19|