I have actually play tested a similar version on MTGO,( I traded out devil's play for Red Sun's Zenith , changed 4x incinerates with 4x Volt Charge and put 1 karn in place of a whipflare. Also I am playing only mountains.) Koth is an absolute powerhouse in the deck. Volt charge actually helps a lot by being able to play koth's ultimate the turn after you play him. I have yet to lose a game where I have done that. The exile of the red sun's I have found to be fantastic. undying is not as big of a factor if you have red sun's in hand. It has also helped me by just being a fireball, much like how you use your devil's play.

Hmmm... Red Sun's Zenith is an interesting idea, for those reasons you mention. I'll think about it and see if my friends have any I can trade.

Rhadamanthus, Red Sun's Zenith is also good against 'undying' creatures.

Don't worry, geomonty already reminded me. ;)

Undying, it was annoying me so much, I totally spaced Red Sun's Zenith then it hit me like, oh yeah, duh... deck:olivias-bloodhall

Love the deck and you episode on the podcast. +1 nice job!

Minor tweak: Urabrask the Hidden was a dumb sideboard choice, and no one I remember discussing it with can recall why we ever thought it was a good idea. I had a rough experience with Phyrexian Obliterator blowing my house down at FNM last week, and I think Wrack with Madness is the card I want for dealing with him and other out-size creatures that my other burn just can't kill. I like the idea because it scales to whatever damage output I need it to be. The only terrifying creatures it can't kill are Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite and Consecrated Sphinx, but if I have to use 2 cards to deal with one of those (each of which might as well be a million cards), then I will.

i would take out a rootbound crag and throw in a forest since it can be tutored with solemn

I agree with kevinmtg24, it would give you more options.

Every time I play the deck, I think about that, but then I forget about it by the time I wake up the next morning. I'll try to remember to do that before the next event I attend. Thanks, guys.

+1 i never thought of making a metal craft burn deck but i gotta say this is really interesting and original.. i use a red burn deck as my main and if u could check it out id appreciate it

It's not really a "metalcraft burn deck", it's just that Galvanic Blast is the only decent 1CC burn spell, and it gets randomly awesome every once in a while if I have the right cards out. I'm glad you like it. I'll take a look at your deck, too.

Inkmoth Nexus and Tezzeret's Gambit maybe? You already have Volt Charge, and the gambit will help you with draw power for the answers you need, while giving you enough proliferation with inkmoth for a secondary win condition.

Also, Inkmoth Nexus could be fun with acquiring metalcraft and making your blasts that much more useful.

The main issue with Tezzeret's Gambit is that I don't see anything worth removing for it. Everything in the deck right now has a very important function. Yes, the mass of 4-ofs is partly because I don't have any card draw in the deck, but I don't think taking some of those out to add Gambits will improve the situation. The only possibility I see for replacement is maybe Solemn Simulacrum, but then that wrecks my capacities for both metalcraft and turn 4 Titan. Do you have any specific suggestions for how to do this profitably?

Inkmoth Nexus is a neat trick for metalcraft, but if this deck can't win a game with damage, it would have to be an extremely weird game for it to be able to win with poison instead. I also don't want to cut down any further on my lands that can make red mana, especially Mountains (because Koth of the Hammer's limit-break does happen). In my opinion, there are just too many serious problem lands around to not play a full set of Ghost Quarter, and it's also good for some useful tricky plays in this deck (bring in the Forest for Kessig Wolf Run, trade a non-Mountain for a Mountain for Koth).

I do appreciate the feedback. You gave me some interesting things to think about.

Heya. It's Phenox from the site. Been trying to find your tappedout for awhile! (I guess not trying too hard xD)

So I threw this deck together earlier, and I have a recommendation.

-1 Galvanic Blast, +1 Devil's Play

I find with Koth of the Hammer out so often, at least one more x spell would be a good include for added versatility. And Galvanic Blast was the first thing I thought of to drop down to a 3-of.

Also, my friend recommended Moltensteel Dragon? I don't know what you might look at taking out though...

The #1 reason I wouldn't add Moltensteel Dragon is that he doesn't do anything on the turn I cast him. Big Red is already slow and meticulous by nature, and I don't want to slow it down anymore. Shrine of Burning Rage and Sphere of the Suns get a special pass in this regard because of how important they are for the deck's function, but the Dagron would just be another bell/whistle.

Devil's Play is really just a 5th copy of Shrine of Burning Rage, in that if I see one in my opening hand, I know I have a late-game BLAMMO to close things up. In today's world, I really need the cheap and instant-speed versatility of Galvanic Blast to make sure things don't suddenly start going wrong, and I haven't played a single game yet where a Blast turned out to be a dead draw.

I do appreciate the input.

Rhadamanthus have you thought about slowing down the pace and shutting down Blue deck by adding Omen Machine then you could focus on burn and add stuff like Rage Extractor and Moltensteel Dragon, with Gut Shots and Dismembers...then you could add the higher damage spells like Galvanic Blast, Scrapyard Salvo, and the like, then you could fuel your graveyard with artifacts by replacing lands with stuff like Horizon Spellbombs & Traveler's Amulets. Then you would only really need like 1 or 2 shrines, if that I think it might something to consider. Maybe keep this deck the way it is then work on a second build, or maybe I will and then send you the link...

I think you just built a brand new deck. =P

That's a cool idea, though. I had thought about a Rage Extractor build for Standard a while ago, (especially since Corrosive Gale is an awesome Blaze effect), but I don't think it's something I'd actually go for.

Is there any way to 'Tutor' in Red for anything? IdeallyI'd want to Tutor of Omen Machine and let the chips fall where they may...

That's not something Red does, since tutoring is associated with planning ahead, which is the opposite of the impulsiveness Red represents. Gamble, Burning Wish, and Wild Research are the only things that come to mind right now.

Yeah, especially with all the artifact hate in Red, I figured as much.

Well here it is what do you think? deck:rage-machines