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Sandbagging with Hazezon

Commander / EDH Ramp RGW (Naya) Tokens

clayperce


Description

Hazezon wants to drop sandbags on your opponents' heads. LOTS of sandbags. This deck can help!

Because Hazezon Tamar has something for everyone! For the Johnnys and Jennys, he's got these completely bizarre and utterly abusable triggered and then delayed triggered abilities. Sweet! For the Timmys and Tammys, he generates tons of Naya tokens which can be turned sideways or used to fuel ridiculous amounts of direct damage. Boo-ya! For the Spikes? Well, nobody will ever mistake Haz' for a Tier 1 commander, but in the right deck (not saying this is it yet!) he's a solid Tier 3 who can hold his own in most metas. FTW! And for the Vorthos types, well, he's an original Dominaria Legend with three books worth of lore, ending with the downfall of the evil mage Darth Maul Johan . 'Nuf said.

  • Land-ramp like mad. Exploit Landfall triggers along the way.
  • Set up for and cast Haz'
  • Get as many ETB triggers out of Haz' as possible, then sac' him or return him to hand that same turn (so he can't accidentally exile all his dudes).
  • Get a bunch of Sand Warriors on the next turn.
  • In a perfect world, generate enough direct damage to kill everyone right then.
  • In a less-than-perfect world, beat on people with Sand Warriors and other tokens; sac' for value; bring Haz' back to generate more Sand Warriors; rinse-and-repeat.
  • Answer threats as needed.

I've listed cards by category (some are in more than one), and I think most of them are self-explanatory. But here's more info on a few:

Land

Ramp

ETB Abuse and Utilities

Sand Warrior Tokens

I'm aiming for a 75% build, with very heavy ETB and direct damage effects and very light token pump, compared to a typical Hazezon deck. And no tutors please, except for land-fetchers.

The deck is in a really weird place budget-wise. I had a few of the pricey cards already, and made a couple big trades to get Hazezon and the others. But from here on out, I'm back to my normal budget: Any card over $5 has to be really good, and $15 is my absolute max.


Thanks in advance for your comments and suggestions! I don't mind reexamining cards at all, but everything I've previously considered is at: Full Maybeboard (Sandbagging w/ Hazezon).

I'd also love your thoughts on what I should use for Sand Warrior tokens, over on this thread: Sand Warrior tokens ... help please!


The original inspiration for the deck came from a thread about building Haz' and some of the great Haz' decks here on TappedOut.

If you get a chance, please check out my other Naya deck sometime: Smashface Gardening with Rith. I'd appreciate your comments there too!

And please don't forget to +1 Upvote if you like it :-)

Thanks much!

Updates

Thanks again enpc, Monsmtg, CosmicTurban, ardilly, Nightdragon779, Gladjolt, and Ricktus! Your previous suggestions are now all under the Comments button.

Comments View Archive

teh_wad says... #1

Nice looking deck. I don't see many fellow Hazezon players.

If you're ever looking for a few new additions, I would suggest a Martyr's Bond. It makes your sac outlets just that much more powerful.

I know you said you weren't looking for much creature pump, but there are 2 creatures with extra utility that could be considered. Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite and Balefire Liege. Norn makes your Warstorm Surge hit considerably harder, and weakens your oppenent as well. In some cases, she prevents your opponent from playing their Commander. The Liege is nice because of the free life gain and free Lightning Bolt.

Your deck already looks pretty solid, so I don't have any cards you should take out. If you're over displeased with a card you already have, that's what these suggestions are for lol.

February 15, 2016 7:01 p.m.

Blitzak says... #2

Hey!

You were asking about ramp cards. The main thing I can see that I would do differently is wood elves over farhaven elf.

Wood elves is better mainly because the land comes in untapped. Also it gets better with more dual lands.

Other than that, earthcraft is amazing if you can find one.

February 15, 2016 7:02 p.m.

clayperce says... #3

teh_wad,
Thanks much, both for the kudos and for the suggestions! I like the Martyr's Bond for sure. Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite is brutal and would be a great add if go for more pump. Just wish she was almost anything but a 7-drop slot! I like all the Lieges too, and especially the Balefire.

Blitzak,
Thanks for checking it out, I really appreciate it! Yeah, that makes sense on Wood Elves, that I need the speed more than the fixing. And yes, Earthcraft would be awesome. I went ahead and added it to my trade binder as a Want :-)

Thanks again to you both!

February 16, 2016 5:55 p.m.

Phaetion says... #4

If you have a ETB theme in the deck, have you thought about the new Eerie Interlude (You don't have to flicker all the creatures you control like Ghostway does)?

February 21, 2016 11:03 p.m.

clayperce says... #5

Phaetion,
That sounds awesome; thanks tons for pointing it out!

Also kudos to you for mentioning an officially spoiled card, instead of one of the leaks!

February 21, 2016 11:13 p.m.

clayperce says... #7

Jeremiah_Von_Pringleton,
Yeah, I've been going back and forth on Eldrazi Displacer. I just can't figure out which of my #ETB_Abuse cards to pull for it. I'd love any thoughts you might have!

February 22, 2016 7:30 a.m.

Blade of Selves seem neat and all but it requires you to attack with the creature and when you are down to one opponent or had only one to start with in the first place it's useless. Eldrazi Displacer can be used on command to trigger an etb, save a creature from removal, keep an opponents creature tapped and summoning sick, and even trigger someone else's etb creature if you want to get political. I am also considering it for The Lords of Strife because of its versatility. Some lands to consider too because thay are good and they make mana for Displacer: Gavony Township, Temple of the False God, Battlefield Forge, Brushland, Karplusan Forest, Homeward Path, and Reliquary Tower.

February 23, 2016 12:56 a.m.

clayperce says... #10

Jeremiah_Von_Pringleton,
Last night, I was thinking Blade of Selves was probably my weakest ... and seeing your thoughts on it just confirmed. Blade out. Displacer in. And thanks tons!

I don't really need additional colorless (I've got 9 sources + 3 any-land fetches). If I end up needing another, it'll probably be a High Market to compliment the City of Shadows. And if possible, I'd actually like to drop a couple ... this deck wants LOTS of fetch-able basics.

I'm not trying to slam your Land recommendations here, they're great recommendations for most decks. But here are my thoughts for this one:

  • I ran Gavony Township with Rith for a while and have never regretted pulling it. I seemed to always have something better to do with ... and that was in a deck with more +1/+1 counter synergy than this.
  • I know lots of folks like Temple of the False God, but I'm not a fan at all. I hate drawing it early, and rarely wish for it late.
  • The pain lands are awesome for most decks, but like I said, fetch-able basics are better here (mostly because Haz' wants max lands, but also for the Landfall triggers).
  • Homeward Path is probably my favorite Land with Rith, but this deck has enough sac' outlets and Flicker effects that I don't really need it.
  • And unless I add a big draw package or my meta changes I unfortunately don't need Reliquary Tower. That said, there's a guy who keeps talking about building Selvala, Explorer Returned, and I strongly suspect I'll need the card within a couple weeks of Conspiracy II release this summer.

I ALWAYS appreciate your thoughts (e.g., I'll never forget that you were the person who taught me about Reconnaissance) so thanks tons for dropping by and commenting!

February 23, 2016 7:11 a.m.

JessieMessy says... #11

clayperce Great ramp, looks super fun! Thanks for the Ideas +1 fo sho!

March 7, 2016 2:27 p.m.

HarroHunter says... #12

clayperce Holy crap! Shields of Velis Vel! Just found this card. Sac Haz to exile wipe an opponent!

March 9, 2016 noon

clayperce says... #13

HarroHunter,
Yeah, that's a really slick one-sided wipe! I ended up not running it because it needs a little bit of set-up, it only hits one opponent, and I generally like targeted removal better than wipes (as kind of a personal thing within my group). But it's right on the edge of my maybeboard, so I look forward to hearing how it works out for you!

March 9, 2016 1:54 p.m.

ardilly says... #14

Hi clayperce, it's me again, the idiot with the other, stupider Hazezon deck.
You could always Radiate that Shields of Velis Vel! In fact, once I manage to acquire a Shields, it's going in my deck with Radiate!

I'll go back to my padded cell now...

March 10, 2016 5:49 p.m.

clayperce says... #16

ardilly,
Sorry but yours is NOT the stupider deck ... I love the HMS Tamar!

But watch out with Radiate ... it's not a "may" effect so will target you too!

March 10, 2016 7:07 p.m.

ardilly says... #17

Circle of Protection: White? Brings the total cost up to 7: W for Shields of Velis Vel, RR3 for Radiate, then 1 to activate the Circle against the Shields that targets yourself?

The deck itself may not be stupid, but I'm a fan of stupid interactions. See my stupid dream in Dan Brown: EDH Edition for reference: Starfield of Nyx + Demonic Pact + a bunch more enchantments + Conjurer's Closet for recurring, non-suicidal Demonic Pacting. So delicate to keep in place, but it would be amazing to pull off even just once.

March 10, 2016 7:08 p.m.

hellmo says... #18

Is there a reason you don't run Ogre Battledriver? I find he contributes heavily to the "win the turn the Haz tokens come down" plan. Also, if you're looking for draw I highly recommend Slate of Ancestry. With so much ramp you can reliably dump your hand, and with so many tokens it basically says 4,t: draw a billion cards.

If you've already tried and rejected these I'd love to know the reasoning.

March 10, 2016 7:11 p.m.

clayperce says... #19

ardilly,
Yeah that combo's just a little too clunky for my preferences.

If you like fragile combos, your might try Life and Limb + Sporemound sometime, for infinite Saprolings and mana. I run it with Rith periodically and have yet to pull it off, but it's always exhilarating to try (one boardwipe with Life and Limb out and you're DONE!) ...

March 12, 2016 10 a.m.

clayperce says... #21

hellmo,
Ogre Battledriver is a fine card for many Haz' decks, but would be kind of out of place here ... this deck is focused more on heavy ETB and direct damage effects and less on token pump, compared to a more "typical" Haz' build.

And yeah, Slate of Ancestry is great. I run it with Rith, but with all the Landfall in this deck, Seer's Sundial is a little better here.

Thanks and draw well!

March 15, 2016 6:07 p.m.

clayperce I found you some tokens for Hazezon. Sand token

March 15, 2016 7:44 p.m.

clayperce says... #23

Jeremiah_Von_Pringleton,
Oh, those are really well done. Is there a Sand Warrior though? I saw the Sand token, but it's for Dune-Brood Nephilim :-(

Still, I may have to add it to my collection anyways!

March 16, 2016 9:29 a.m.

enpc says... #24

You could look at running High Market / Miren, the Moaning Well here. And I'm not just saying that to test the suggestions counter :P

April 5, 2016 8:47 p.m.

clayperce says... #25

enpc,
I actually had High Market for a while, but pulled it for City of Shadows. I hadn't even looked at Miren, the Moaning Well though ... I'll give it a hard look. Thanks much (also seriously)!

April 5, 2016 9:01 p.m.

wlbreda says... #26

June 27, 2016 9:42 a.m.

wlbreda says... #27

June 27, 2016 9:51 a.m.

wlbreda says... #28

June 27, 2016 9:53 a.m.

clayperce says... #29

wlbreda,
Thanks much for the suggestions!

Crucible of Worlds is an amazing card, but way too expensive. Like I mention above: "The deck is in a really weird place budget-wise. I had a few of the pricey cards already, and made a couple big trades to get Hazezon and the others. But from here on out, I'm back to my normal budget: Any card over $5 has to be really good, and $15 is my absolute max."

I've had Cloudstone Curio on my Maybeboard forever, but never thought about using it with Aluren. It would be insane if Hazezon was CMC 3, but I'd need to get Flickerwisp to really abuse it. And though Eternal Witness and Wood Elves work with it of course, it just seems a little unreliable.

Gift of Immortality would work with a bunch of my creatures, but it doesn't work well with Hazezon. Like I mention above, the idea is to "Get as many ETB triggers out of Haz' as possible, then sac' him or return him to hand that same turn (so he can't accidentally exile all his dudes)." I'd need some Instant-speed Enchantment removal to get rid of the Gift during the end step, or he'd be back again. And while that might work out (for example, if I can sac' all his Sand Warriors for value before the beginning of the next end step), it seems a little unreliable too.

Thanks much though!

July 5, 2016 8:23 a.m.

wlbreda says... #30

Sorry about Crucible of Worlds, I must confess I have not read your description.

Yes, after "Playtest" your deck, I saw Flameshadow Conjuring + Flickerwisp is enough. The copy exile the original, then you have this continuously at all next end step. It made me think of Flameshadow Conjuring + Worldgorger Dragon . Worldgorger Dragon enter the battlefield, you pay , exile all, put the copy, exile original, return all untapped (here is my question, I think that returns all untapped), then sac or exile the copy (like Flickerwisp or Evolutionary Leap), return original, you pay , all again. I'm wrong? This is an infinite combo of ETB to Haz?

Yes, after "Playtest" I saw that Gift of Immortality is weak. Tawnos's Coffin could be better, maybe.

July 5, 2016 3:55 p.m.

clayperce says... #31

Stunning Regrowth from EMN, maybe?

July 7, 2016 5:42 a.m.

wlbreda says... #32

My version: Hazezon Tamar of Naya. The cards will be proxies 100%, so no expenses spared. Have not played with the deck yet, I'm joining the cards. Can you take a look? Please.

July 7, 2016 7:32 a.m.

clayperce says... #33

wlbreda,
You asked about Flameshadow Conjuring + Worldgorger Dragon ...

Yes, it's an infinite combo and yes, the Lands return as normal (i.e., basic Lands ETB untapped and cards like Mirrorpool ETB tapped). It's a risky combo though, as an opponent's removal spell at the wrong time can permanently exile all your stuff. Some folks explain it better than I possibly could over on the EDH subreddit.

July 8, 2016 1:41 a.m.

wlbreda says... #34

Indeed, it's a risky combo. Excelent link, thanks.

July 8, 2016 10:59 p.m.

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This deck is Commander / EDH legal.

Cards 100
Avg. CMC 3.33
Tokens 2/2 Spawn, 1/1 Goblin, 0/1 Plant, 1/1 Warrior, 1/1 Kor Ally, 1/1 Sand Warrior, 1/1 Bird
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