Mj3913 says... #1

I notice you have some discard effects, so why not Avacyn's Judgment. Toss your hand, Ramp up the X Madness cost, and blow up as much as you can. +1, does look like a really fun deck...not being on the receiving end I mean.

May 14, 2016 6:07 p.m.

spoonieluv1023 says... #2

I would definitely add Pyromancer's Goggles to this. Double the Fun.....+ 1 from me. Awesome take on Red/White.

May 15, 2016 5:31 p.m.

Holtzman says... #3

I agree spoonieluv1023 it's the next card i'm going to acquire for the deck.

May 15, 2016 6:14 p.m.

Shininglive says... #4

May 18, 2016 1:05 a.m.

Holtzman says... #5

@Shininglive creature damage in this deck is situational. otherwise it would fit the theme perfectly

May 18, 2016 11:05 p.m.

PookandPie says... #6

No Swords to Plowshares? Sometimes you just have to kill off a huge creature, or not let one hit the graveyard. It's one of the best removal spells in the game- I highly recommend running it. I know you have a lot of creature removal, but a lot of your instant speed removal is either very high cost (Inferno), reliant upon damage (Fault Line, Starstorm, Sulfurous Blast, Volcanic Fallout), or situational (Arcbond). A pro-red creature (Kemba with Sword of War and Peace or something) or an indestructible creature seems very hard for this deck to deal with. Swords can be cast in response to the equip activation of War and Peace, at least, so it works against both.

Also, I recommend something like Austere Command to deal with artifacts and enchantments. It would be a more flexible than Fire Tempest, which is an already worse Inferno, and is only really that great if Gisela is out.

May 25, 2016 3:14 a.m.

Grahamatica says... #7

What about Purity ? It would protect you against you (while adding to you life total too).

May 25, 2016 10:22 a.m.

Holtzman says... #8

@Grahamatica I had Purity in the deck but took it out because it is too mana-intensive Personal Sanctuary accomplishes the same thing.

@PookandPie Sometimes indestructible creatures help my cause. Pariah on an enemy Blightsteel Colossus anyone? However Swords to Plowshares is amazing as well as Path to Exile. And yes pro-red creatures give me a big problem. (had a version of this deck with mostly burn and pro-red creatures but went enchantment-pillowfort instead)

May 26, 2016 12:19 a.m.

suarkdivad says... #9

Love the deck. I run a similar deck but with the addition of blue. I have to say the more pillowforty aspects of your deck inspire me to put in some more protections in mine, especially since I recently got killed in a game by a hasty creature.

May 26, 2016 9:49 a.m.

PookandPie says... #10

Well yes, if you put Pariah on Blightsteel it would save you from a Blightsteel swing. The controlling player could swing it at you, and it would put 11 -1/-1 counters on itself and die out of spite lol.

One major issue I could see is if Blightsteel gains haste, which is among the only ways I've ever seen him come out (for example, and Animar deck would run things like Lightning Greaves, Hammer of Purphoros, Fires of Yavimaya, Temur Ascendancy, etc., to enable something like Ulamog, Kozilek, or Blightsteel to hit the same turn they drop so sorcery speed spells can't answer them, first). If hasted indestructible creature occurs, you only have one out and it's kind of a waste-- you'd need Academy Rector on field and one of five instant cards to kill it (so around 4 mana, 3 if Volcanic Fallout) and get Pariah out to enchant the Blightsteel at instant speed. I mean, there's more scenarios where a one mana exile would be handy, like when playing against Kemba or Bruna (you haven't lived until you've seen the look of frustration on a Kemba player's face as he re-casts his Commander and tries to suit up to lethal, haste, indestructible, pro whatever off of Puresteel Paladin, and you exile her in response to the equip activation, lol. To do that without Swords would require a whopping 6 mana at current).

There are lots of scenarios when Swords to Plowshares and the like come in handy, which is all I was saying. If these situations never really come up for you, then I wouldn't worry about it; I was just trying to give good general advice.

Also, I see you're running Malignus. Is there a reason you're not running Heartless Hidetsugu, who doesn't even have to attack to kill a player, assuming Gisela is out? He flat-out kills a player with an even life total, which can cause some great shenanigans even if they have an odd life total (forcing an opponent to dead or 1 life is pretty powerful assuming you can get both of these on field).

May 26, 2016 3:39 p.m.

Holtzman says... #11

He gets way too much hate and dies before I can use him. No haste

May 26, 2016 4:59 p.m.

FlavorPolice says... #12

Boros Reckoner + Darksteel Plate + Arcbond

I don't see how this is infinite?

Arcbond is each other creature and player, so if Arcbond makes Reckoner deal damage, it will be to everything but itself, so there is no loop since Reckoner isn't dealt any damage.

I like your deck though, I'm redesigning my Gisela to something in the same vein as my group vastly overestimates how strong R/W Angel tribal is and the deck gets ground to dust by players with stronger decks complaining how scary it is. I've just started the build so it's over 100 atm but you can take a look to see if there's anything you think is obviously bad/weak.

May 28, 2016 2:01 p.m.

Holtzman says... #14

@FlavorPolice Darksteel Plate makes Boros Reckoner indstructible. Arcbond deals damage to each other creature and each player when he takes damage.

Boros Reckoner takes 1 damage. 1 damage is dealt to everything else via Arcbond. Boros Reckoner own ability is also put on the stack. 1 damage to target creature or player. Boros Reckoner targets himself, starting the fun all over again. Please note this does not work with Gisela, Blade of Goldnight out. It will also work with Boros Reckoner out and Arcbond on an enemy indestructible creature even is Gisela is out as long as the damage is 2 or greater.

Alternately you can use Darksteel Plate + Coalhauler Swine + Guilty Conscience. (depending on the # of players and amount of damage, Gisela being out probably won't matter with this one)

Add Spirit Loop and you will not have to worry about killing yourself.

May 28, 2016 3:49 p.m.

FlavorPolice says... #15

Wow. Derp. I can't believe I missed he can just infinitely ping himself.

May 28, 2016 4:03 p.m.