- 4x Aerial Responder
- 1x Bruna, the Fading Light
- 4x Crested Sunmare
- 3x Gisela, the Broken Blade
- 4x Glory-Bound Initiate
- 4x Lone Rider Flip
I think you really need 2 drops. maybe the "vampire nighthawk" from Aether Revolt? But I really like it, looks fun!
July 11, 2017 11:42 p.m.
Maybe you want to check out the T2 I just made focused on cats: Lots of Kitties (T2)
July 11, 2017 11:44 p.m.
July 11, 2017 11:46 p.m.
July 12, 2017 4:55 a.m.
I'd check out running 2 Mirage Mirror as you can copy your horse lord at instant speed and get double tokens and grant the lord and the mirror indestructible if they try to remove either piece for just 2 mana. Also Glory-Bound Initiate would be a good addition as its an early drop that gets in for a bunch of damage but can exert and gain lifelink to trigger your horse. I would also prioritize Archangel Avacyn Flip over Gisela. She dies to all of the common removal spells with only 3 toughness. I know avacyn doesn't have lifelink, but a 4/4 flying vigilant threat will close out games in a hurry so the lifelink is less relevant
I feel like this wants to be a control shell but doesn't quite have all of the control elements. Missing a lot of black's efficient removal, etc.
July 12, 2017 3:06 p.m.
gearturner27 - I like both Mirage Mirror and Glory-Bound Initiate for this deck. Will keep Gisela over Avacyn though. Don't know why you would say this wants to be a control shell, it's not at all the way it plays. It's a creature based life-gain midrange deck. Thanks for the other 2 suggestions though. I'll try them out.
July 12, 2017 3:43 p.m.
I'm thinking if I have 5 5/5 indestructible horse tokens to sacrifice in order to flip abbey, I've already won. ;)
July 12, 2017 11:45 p.m.
Hour of Devastation does kill all ur horses though, so let's hope that's not to popular
July 14, 2017 6:15 p.m.
If it does become widely played, I'll SB Eerie Interlude
July 14, 2017 6:24 p.m.
It won't save my tokens, but the horse lord will survive.
July 14, 2017 6:29 p.m.
Perhaps Felidar Sovereign in sideboard? Seems like a real finisher in some grindy matchups with board stalls. I love jank though so maybe its a far-fetched idea, lol. +1 from me, love it!
July 14, 2017 9:42 p.m.
Yup gets a +1 from me, I personally will be running Anointed Processions because I <3 that card so much, but Kalitas, Traitor of Ghet also has value. If you are looking for 2 drops, Anointer Priest is a fantastic pick up as her Embalm allows her to proc herself, gaining life, and all the horses that come in, to gain more life.
July 15, 2017 5:58 p.m.
Nope, this is not a strong deck. Lifelink hasn't been strong in standard for a while, it's much much better to play a lifelink-weenie hybrid. Sunmare Monument
Fun casual I guess.
July 15, 2017 9:17 p.m.
I love what you've made here! This seems extremely fun! Crested Sunmare is too fun of a card for people to not brew around. I thought it read only at the end of your end step, having it say each end step is OP hah.
Have you considered Fumigate? It might kill your Crested Sunmare, but all the indestructible horses you have would really have an open board then at that point. Or, if you had 2 Sunmares out, they'd actually both survive, you'd gain a couple life, and you'd then make two horses at your end-step hahah.
July 16, 2017 9:01 a.m.
Why do you have Declaration in Stone in here? Does it serve any specific purpose?
July 16, 2017 1:12 p.m.
i made a mono white version heals and horses its a really fun card to brew around
July 16, 2017 1:43 p.m.
July 16, 2017 9:20 p.m.
Dude. Nice work here. Playtested like a Champion! Great to being back some of those old cards which were gathering dust.
July 16, 2017 9:42 p.m.
I think the only part I don't like about your deck is the use of Lost Legacy in the side. I would rather have a mix or one of the following:
I ask myself, what non-artifact card do I really care about that I need to get rid of in the new standard meta? Frankly the answer is not much.
July 17, 2017 9:41 a.m.
July 17, 2017 4:01 p.m.
Not really sure what could be changed in the main board, but for the sideboard what do you think about Trespasser's Curse instead of some of the removal? With all the options you have, some of that feels a little redundant, and I was thinking the curse would be more finely tuned to deal with creature heavy builds alongside Authority of the Consuls.
As it stands I see Anguished Unmaking and Cast Out being equal in strength, but while the former is cheaper, the latter can be cycled, and thus is never a dead draw. From there Lost Legacy is for combo decks or mirror match type deals where a single card makes the deck happen, and you know that card ahead of time. Is that all correct?
July 17, 2017 6:27 p.m.
TheRedGoat - I think Trespasser's Curse is an excellent suggestion for my SB! It works very well in triggering horse generation and punishes WU Monument for token generation :). I'm going to put it in immediately.
July 17, 2017 6:40 p.m.
Saw Blessed Alliance mentioned in the description, but not in the decklist. Seems like a strong card for awesome deck, love it!
July 17, 2017 7:28 p.m.
Jxhook - Oh, I removed Blessed Alliance and replaced with Fatal Push. It doesn't do well against decks that go wide and I have plenty of life gain with other cards. It was a good card but Fatal Push performed better against top net decks.
July 17, 2017 7:32 p.m.
What I look at are things like the top 36 of the last big event not having a single Lost Legacy anywhere. Lots of the cards I mentioned though. Dispossess is also played over Lost Legacy. that's because it can target artifacts like Heart of Kiran which is one of the more problematic artifacts in the meta. Lost Legacy is basically awful compared to the other options. I invite you to check out the decks from SCG Cincinnati so you can see for yourself. Even heavy control decks don't use Lost Legacy.
July 18, 2017 6:29 a.m.
Well Noctem, there lies the difference between the two of us. You base your card selection by copying what net decks use. I look at the top net decks and brew new ideas to compete with them. Since the majority of people who play Magic lack the creativity or skills to brew, you can count on seeing those net decks all the time. No one ever knows what I'm going to play. You fail to see the answers that are already in my MB and SB that already deal with threats you mentioned that Lost Legacy doesn't hit. The ever so popular Heart of Kiran dies to my Fatal Push and 4/3 first strike flyer. So much thought goes into my builds and so little goes into your criticism. Lots of other people have made great suggestions to many of my decks which I have adopted, but I've yet to hear one good idea from you. Build a good competitive deck and let me review it, then maybe I'll give your suggestions and criticism some credibility. So far on your profile I've seen nothing that impresses me though.
July 18, 2017 7:20 a.m.
Well the horse sucks in my meta, I'm only able to ever get one trigger off him before they board wipe or kill the sunmare, at least I get to keep my one token after the board wipe. I run a similar build, I don't use Aerial Responder or Gisela, the Broken Blade. I ended up using Kalitas, Traitor of Ghet and Gifted Aetherborn. I also don't have the Always Watching s, so I might put them in and see if the deck improves
July 18, 2017 12:19 p.m.
July 18, 2017 12:20 p.m.
You also have to remember that indestructible doesn't prevent damage, so if they somehow deal 5 damage to your indestructible horses and then kill the source of the indestructible, they will all die too. Always Watching doesn't affect tokens btw. So it would only give your main horse +1+1. That makes it less attractive for this kind of deck imo. But I suppose a 5/5 horse token is still pretty good alongside the rest.
July 18, 2017 12:34 p.m.
I don't like this deck. Here is why:
1) When I sideboard, the deck becomes a crappier version of the deck.2) I have no depth other than gaining life and maybe a Brisela. 3) I have no card draw.
1) Put that flash enchantment that exiles target nonland permanent until it leaves battlefield (it also has cycle)2) Include Red, specifically to add Nahiri (This adds versatility) and to sideboard Radiant Flames.3) Add Avacyn to mainboard and sideboard a couple Selfless Spirit
I love the horse card, but when I play this deck in tournament, I lose because I have no protection, not enough depth, and a sideboard that is too specific, and not powerful enough.
July 22, 2017 1:11 p.m.
I like the Selfless Spirit suggestion for the SB, but none of the other stuff. This deck performs pretty well for me in my meta, but change it up as you see fit for yours :)
July 22, 2017 1:20 p.m.
I'd like to suggest Bontu the Glorified. Now hear me out: Grixis Control is a very powerful deck in Standard, and I haven't seen a single one that doesn't play at least 1 copy of Hour of Devastation . That spell in itself can clear your board of horse tokens. What Bontu does in a board-wipe situation, wether it be from HoD or Bontu's Last Reckoning, is this: abuse the mana ability to drain you opponent, gain life, and fix your next draw. I'm not saying you need Bontu in your life, but it's a suggestion as a SB card for when you're up against Control (unless you already have an answer to Control I just failed to see, in which case good job and ignore little old me, lol).
July 24, 2017 3:20 a.m.
July 24, 2017 9:40 p.m.
August 1, 2017 10:43 a.m.
I do have a case for running Blessed Alliance and that is it automatically flips Lone Rider Flip and for me that is one of the main things because a 4/4 first strike, trample, lifelink needs a response almost immediately and with Blessed Alliance you can get that on turn 3 but I do keep in mind that pushing and grasping are things that exist.
August 9, 2017 4:07 a.m.
It's just sad that a card that requires hoops to jump through like Lone Rider Flip, which could cost you a card to flip no less, dies to everything. Every removal spell in the format. If a card requires you to use another card to flip it by jumping through hoops and then dies to every removal spell in the format, it's not a great card. So I would be careful about expending resources to flip it beyond passive life gain by doing what you're going to be doing anyway.
August 9, 2017 7:52 a.m.
Noctem Well you don't play the card until main 2 and you have gained life and flip it at your end step. It isn't difficult to do. An Exerted Glory-Bound Initiate a single attack of Gisela, the Broken Blade or even Aerial Responder or Shambling Vent with a Always Watching on the board. Its risk reward is worth it and the cost is cheap for what you would be getting.
August 9, 2017 9:53 a.m.
Right, all the examples you gave are what I would call 'passive life gain by doing what you're going to be doing anyway'. What I'm saying is, don't spend a card like blessed alliance to flip it unless there's a clear advantage (like winning the game the next turn or something). People can respond to the EOT trigger, it dies to shock, magma spray and everything else.
August 9, 2017 1:20 p.m.
Noctem Yes but did you also consider Crested Sunmare has in its wording that it says 'end step' not 'your end step'? Also, I find the ability to ruin an opponents attack plan by forcing them to sacrifice a creature gain life and untap 2 creatures for 6 mana with the chance of having an addition horse and a flipped Lone Rider seems pretty favorable.
August 9, 2017 1:44 p.m.
Oh yeah, lone rider and sunmare both trigger at every end step. That's why I suggested you only use Blessed Alliance to flip or create horses if it would lead to a win the next turn, because you can do it at end of the opponents second main phase to trigger both creatures. But expending cards in this way is very expensive, so if at all possible you should avoid it.
August 9, 2017 1:59 p.m.
Noctem I agree. Its a win con card that lets you survive a attack and swing lethal next turn... you could have very well untapped a glory bound and an indestructible horse with the life gain you would survive and swing for 14 or even 19 if you had another horse token out next turn.
August 9, 2017 2:07 p.m.
Although Blessed Alliance has great synergy with this deck, Dec & Push are the best removal package for the current meta. I tested with Blessed in the beginning stages of brewing and I can tell you definitively that your better off not including it.
August 9, 2017 2:44 p.m.
Stormy101 - Both of those escalate spells are good, but not to replace existing removal. You need to be able to deal with Gods and other indestructibles so Dec is absolutely necessary and Push is just too good a spell to replace.
August 9, 2017 3:18 p.m.
OminousRex I personnally like the idea of splashing in red . http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/mardu-sunmare/
August 9, 2017 3:20 p.m.
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