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O'Canada national anthem paraphrasing of the deck's strategy still needs to be re-written!
Going to try and run this without the new Elspeth for now.
Wow, thanks for all the rates and comments guys!
@ TrickstersInTheSky, Thanks for the comments! I agree, Hellrider and Hero of Bladehold work wonders for token decks. So does Burn at the Stake . I think I might try adjusting the creatures a bit, so there is 4 Hero of Bladehold and 3 Odric, Master Tactician . I like Geist-Honored Monk a lot in this deck, partially for her pseudo-combination of a Crusader of Odric with vigilance and a Midnight Haunting built into one. As a large body she can hold off other big critters quite well, but she is vulnerable to board removal (even a well-placed Pyroclasm ). I'll give the 4-hero, 3-odric a try, but I am not sure if the 3-mana slot will be too low this way (given how there are no 1-mana spells to compliment a 2-mana spell). Also, i'll take a look at your deck!
@ krotash, I agree, card:Cathars' Crusade would work wonders in here, but I am not sure what I would take out for it.. Everything seems to work quite holistically already and I don't want to have too many enchantments. What would you recommend for taking out?
I agree, I am sad Incinerate won't see a reprint. Searing Spear is strictly worse but there aren't really any other options for now. If there are no Lightning Bolt or Incinerate reprints with Ravnica it will be downgrading to Burning Oil , Thunderous Wrath , Brimstone Volley and the like.
Dangerous Wager is a dream come true for aggro decks where nearly every card you draw will be played during your main phases. Discarding an entire hand may seem risky, but in practice, it reads "pay 1R, draw two cards," since your hand will be mostly spent or useless anyway.
Honestly, the card I'm not crazy about is Incinerate , and not because it won't be reprinted in M13, or because it's a bad card, but because it's a constant reminder of our beloved and erstwhile Lightning Bolt . Pillar of Flame or Shock might be a better fit, since the things you can kill with Incinerate will also die to Odric, Master Tactician during the combat step anyway. There's also Flames of the Firebrand to hose down more targets at 1 CMC more than Arc Trail . Plus, it has Chandra in it, for flavor points.
Wow, thanks for all the comments and votes guys! Sorry its taken almost two weeks to respond, been a few provinces away from home for family.
@ krotash, I think Velox summed up my thoughts of Dangerous Wager pretty well, as you will only use it when your hand has been spent. Also, it can be a saving grace if you are desperate for card draw (i.e. creatures or land); most of the time, however, you will just be playing: "1(R), draw two cards."
@ Velox, Wow, you sure have the hate for Incinerate! (no pun or rhyme intended). In Standard as of Magic 2013, there are 136 3-toughness creatures that Incinerate can reach with its extra 1 damage that sets it apart from Shock and Pillar of Flame. Many of those are very commonly played creatures and MAJOR threats (i.e. Sublime Archangel, Captain of the Watch, Fiend Hunter, Angelic Overseer, Angel of Jubilation, Glissa, the Traitor, Vampire Nocturnus, Vampire Nighthawk, Bloodline Keeper Flip, Olivia Voldaren, Krenko, Mob Boss, Vexing Devil, Hellrider, Putrefax, Thragtusk, etc). This is not to mention other cards that could give +1/+1 bonuses to lower toughness creatures, or any 2 or lower toughness creature in general. With so many threats out there, it is IMO better to just pay the extra mana for one extra point of damage, with a perk of denying regeneration (prominent in green and especially black cards, which white has trouble with). This maximizes red as a support color to a beatdown white in this circumstance.
When everything cycles, though, I think I will shift to either Shock and/or Brimstone Volley to replace Incinerate, and Flames of the Firebrand will be an easy (but still downgraded) transfer from Arc Trail. But I do agree on the flavor points for Chandra :). Hopefully Ravnica will bring out some new good burn spells.
@ Lantern214, Thanks man! I am more pissed about Honor of the Pure cycling out than anything else, but the onset of dual-coloured cards in Ravnica will hopefully compensate for this issue. I can settle for something like Glory of Warfare or similar.
With the absence of Hero of Bladehold and Timely Reinforcements , there are still options like Doomed Traveler , Attended Knight , more Increasing Devotion and possibly Captain of the Watch (who I idealized this deck on in conjunction with Odric originally). If necessary I can bump up the mana curve to include the captain and heavier burn spells like Brimstone Volley , Flames of the Firebrand and more Reforge the Soul instead of Dangerous Wager (as I do have a full playset). There is also still potential for Reverberate and Increasing Vengeance .
@ blackrun, really? I've played with him a few times already and he has been gamebreaking every time he goes off. I have the choice of making all of my creatures unblockable, or killing certain creatures that the opponent would never want to see in combat (i.e. Talrand, Sky Summoner , Krenko, Mob Boss , Intrepid Hero just to name a few), OR just killing regular combatants who would lose in my optimal circumstances (i.e. an unbuffed Vampire Nocturnus or Sublime Archangel getting beat down by Odric himself. Just keep playing with him, it may take a few tries for him to go off. After all, he IS legendary, and has a giant bullseye painted on him the minute he hits the field. Just make sure your deck doesn't depend on him alone to win, as you can only run 4 with 1 out at a time. And for sure, i'll take a look at your deck!
Thanks for the comment man! I haven't used this deck in a while but now that my school semester is nearly finished I am going to come back to this deck and start using it again. I definitely think an addition of 1 or 2 Assemble the Legion would go great with the token theme, especially as a finisher or clock to put the game on. Thanks for the suggestion. :)
|Date added||1 year|
|Last updated||3 months|
|Legal formats||Commander / EDH, Extended, Legacy, Modern, Standard, Vintage|
|Top rank||#2 on 2012-06-24|