Been brewing this deck for some time now and just after Dragons of Tarkir came out I figured it was time to finally pull the trigger. As expensive as most of these creatures are, the main point is that some of these will never actually be casted. Their purpose is to be used for Scion to copy. This is the second revision I've done of this deck and has so far competed very well in one-on-one and multiplayer commander rounds.

Fun combos

Dragon Broodmother + Utvara Hellkite + Dragon Tempest - If this makes it around the table the Dragon Tempest activates 4 times before my combat phase. Swing with 4 of the little dragons and pump out 4 more. Even if my opponent declares blockers they trade the 1/1 for a 6/6.

Scion of the Ur-Dragon + Dragonlord Ojutai - for me this is more of a protection move. If an opponent tries to burn or steal my commander pay 2 to turn it into Dragonlord Ojutai and it's now hexproof

Scion of the Ur-Dragon + Teneb, the Harvester - Swing for 6 to and pay 2 and a Swamp to bring back a dragon I previously copied or that was destroyed.

Scion of the Ur-Dragon + Yosei, the Morning Star - A defensive move more than anything but block with Scion or let Scion be burned by a spell/ability, pay 2 to turn into Yosei and let him die and tap down and freeze an opponent

Dragon Broodmother + Dragon Tempest + Wound Reflection - Mildly obvious that these 2 work so well together but in a 4 person game it's great because the Dragon Tempest resolves every turn if it isn't burned.

There are a bunch of others that I've come across in playing this deck. I've now played it in multiple 4 person rounds and it has won the majority of the time. Most importantly this is just a fun deck to play with, what I do/can do with my commander changes each game and the amount of control I can have while still pumping out big nasty dragons is great and causes some chaos.


So I've become slightly predictable with the creature base of this deck so I decided to drop a few non-creature spells that were not being used as often and added a few more. The unexpected one of the bunch is currently the Rimescale Dragon which has been fun to watch opponents deal with.

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thatgingerguy says... #1


I'm only running 40 right now cause I'm lacking a few of those pieces. This is just the first version of this deck but definitely do appreciate the input. I do agree on not wanting to rely on hard casting my dragons. I have a few that I look to hard cast but most I want to clone. Domri Rade has been in there somewhat as a "can I slide through a game with him in long enough to proc off his -7" card.

Thank you again for the input. I've been having a lot of fun playing this deck so far and has given other decks some serious issues that have had a lot more time to playtest.

May 6, 2015 10:12 p.m.

Klovin21 says... #2

+1 for a fellow scion deck!Take a look at mine to see if you can take any ideas from it!

May 12, 2015 12:59 p.m.

thatgingerguy says... #3

Klovin21 I actually was just looking at it! Haha. You have some awesome stuff going on in there. Honestly as massive and terrifying as this deck is/can be I aim to control the board with most of it. The attacks are big but I also enjoy tapping down my opponents creatures so they can't attack next turn as well as having dragons like Dragonlord Dromoka in play so they can't cast spells during my turn. The Door to Nothingness was thrown in sort of as a goof card but I actually pulled it off the other night and it almost resulted in a table flip.

May 12, 2015 1:06 p.m.

Krakshot says... #4

May 12, 2015 6:39 p.m.

thatgingerguy says... #5

Krakshot Haven't dropped the $$ on them yet. I know the combo well and have contemplated throwing it in there just haven't done so yet. As of now this deck has worked really really well so I'm gonna ride it out a little longer.

May 12, 2015 7:48 p.m.

Krakshot says... #6

It certainly isn't necessary to have, it's just nice as an instant kill combo. Skith is a tad spendy, but at least Moltensteel is less than a dollar.

May 12, 2015 8:25 p.m.

thatgingerguy says... #7

Krakshot yeah Moltensteel is fun and will most likely happen sometime soon. For now hard casting Atarka, World Render and changing Scion into Hellkite Overlord is a fun instant kill when I pump him up enough to do lethal commander damage.

Running 5 color originally worried the hell out of me in terms of land and what to play but now I've realized this deck is basically one massive toolbox.

May 12, 2015 8:36 p.m.

Skullion123 says... #8

Crucible of Fire would be great for this deck.

May 13, 2015 4:22 p.m.

thatgingerguy says... #9

Skullion123 I had one in here for a little while. Definitely does work well but needed the space for a spell or two (couldn't remember what i replaced at this time).

May 13, 2015 4:27 p.m.

Athenaaa says... #10

More mana rainbows? Prismatic Omen, Shard Convergence, Realmwright,, Bloom Tender

More value mulicolored shit? Decimate, Titanic Ultimatum, Violent Ultimatum, Plasm Capture

More tribal shit? Descendants' Path, Patriarch's Bidding

Better creature cheating/tutoring shit? Defense of the Heart

May 15, 2015 3:19 p.m.

thatgingerguy says... #11

Athenaaa Thanks for the recommendations! A few of these I've had my eye on and a couple I was not aware of.

May 15, 2015 3:26 p.m.

UpsetYoMama says... #12

Counterspell over Cancel and Swan Song over Negate.

Demonic Tutor over Sarkhan's Triumph.

I think maybe you should run more recursion stuff like Animate Dead and Necromancy.

I'm not a fan of Cataclysm because it gives your opponent choices. A well-timed Armageddon can often win a game.

Gravepurge is kind of a not so great card. Just run Eternal Witness.

The ultimate creature tutor is Survival of the Fittest. It can fuel graveyard shenanigans and get you whatever you're looking for in your hand.

May 16, 2015 11:51 a.m.

gittlebass says... #13

This deck is in my playgroup, not fun to play against hahaha

May 16, 2015 11:52 a.m.

thatgingerguy says... #14

UpsetYoMama thanks for the recommendations. I'm running the Sarkhan's Triumph over Demonic Tutor cause I'm gunning mainly for my Thunderbreak Regent. Gravepurge ends up in the deck to continue to fuel my Scion of the Ur-Dragon. Being able to do that after 4-5 clones is helpful. I don't want them in my hand as much as I want my cards in my library. I choose to hardcast every once in a while but can finish off the job with Scion and one or 2 other dragons in play. I keep meaning to drop a counterspell in over a cancel.

But thank you for the recommendations again and for checking out the deck!

May 16, 2015 11:58 a.m.

UpsetYoMama says... #15

Okay that makes sense.

May 16, 2015 4:09 p.m.

Disdained says... #16

No Skithiryx, the Blight Dragon? what kinda deck is this?

May 17, 2015 5:53 p.m.

thatgingerguy says... #17

Disdained I know that + Moltensteel Dragon combo is a thing I just haven't added it to this deck as of yet. I know it's a great instakill combo but honestly I've been running this deck for the past few weeks in my playgroup and it has not been beaten unless I have a mana issue.

May 17, 2015 7:13 p.m.

Disdained says... #18

understandable, Skithiryx is just my favorite dragon in all of magic.

May 18, 2015 2:38 p.m.

thatgingerguy says... #19

Disdained Don't get me wrong that card is absolutely incredible. It will probably end up here in time. For now I've been having fun with just controlling the table during my turn as much as possible with Dragonlord Dromoka and Ojutai, Soul of Winter. No spells plus freezing my opponents causes a lot of headache for them.

May 18, 2015 2:43 p.m.

Goran says... #20 a look at my deck and see what you would do

May 18, 2015 10:54 p.m.

nayrash5 says... #21

Cancel is like, the worst Counter, even for that cost. I would upgrade it to Swan Song or Dissipate. Swords to Plowshares and Path to Exile are also both worth running in EDH.

May 19, 2015 12:56 a.m.

thatgingerguy says... #22

nayrash5 thanks for the recommendations. I currently have Cancel in there because it's one of the few counterspells I have handy. Path to Exile and Swords to Plowshares i've seen in a bunch of decks and will probably add at some point.

Thanks for checking out the deck though!

May 19, 2015 10:38 a.m.

Skullion123 says... #23

Coat of Arms should be in here. I also think you should put Crucible of Fire back in, seeing as most of your creatures are dragons.

May 19, 2015 7:33 p.m.

thatgingerguy says... #24

Skullion123 I've thought about putting crucible of fire back in because it does play to my creature type but I haven't needed to really pump them up anymore since I'm usually hammering my opponents over the head with multiple dragons at time and usually with either Double Strike (cause of Atarka) or going for multiple combat phases with Aggravated Assault.

May 20, 2015 2:22 p.m.

smiffdemon says... #25

I think this deck is off to a great start! I love some of the options you have in here.

Silumgar, the Drifting Death is a must. He's not only instant protection for Scion, but he can kill weenies super easily. Believe me, when you're going up against some goblins, you'll be thankful. Hell, late game, Silumgar can kill some major creatures if you've got enough dragons. Combo's super well with Dragon Broodmother and Utvara Hellkite.

I'm not sure what direction you want to go with the deck - if you want more combos, there are the usual ones that have already been done 100 times. You have one piece of a combo with Nivvy in there and Curiosity or Ophidian Eye is cheap and pretty easy to get.

I've also found Sunscorch Regent to be awesome in this deck, especially if you get him out early game. He doesn't seem threatening, especially while your opponents are focusing on Scion - and then soon enough he's HUGE. Also that bit of lifegain helps tremendously while setting up your board for combos or just trying to pool together enough mana.

Bringer of the Black Dawn is an awesome tutor for this deck if you feel you need more of that. It's a cheaper alternative to things like Demonic Tutor or Vampiric Tutor as well.

Cheap reanimator spells you might consider: Animate Dead Life/Death

I'd also recommend Karrthus, Tyrant of Jund. He's got a handful of good combos that go well with him and he'll give your dragons haste if you don't already have Dragon Tempest on the field. More options are always good. Alternatively, Temur Ascendancy for haste and card advantage.

Again, I'm not sure what approach you want for the deck in general, so I'm just giving general ideas based on my own personal preference of playstyle.

But this deck looks awesome! I'd love to play against it with my own Scion deck :)

May 20, 2015 5:09 p.m.

smiffdemon says... #26

*budget alternative when talking about Bringer, not cheaper CMC wise.

May 20, 2015 5:12 p.m.

thatgingerguy says... #27

smiffdemon thanks for all the recommendations. I've thought about Karrthus for a while, was going to use him as my commander in my old Jund Dragons EDH deck but went and dropped the money on Scion first.

As far as direction of the deck it's still mostly a "toolbox" against my playgroup. There's a Kaalia deck that likes to do reanimation as well as an Undying deck so the Leyline of the Void comes in handy.

Only reason I don't have Silumgar, The Drifting Death in is mostly because I don't have one. I've been using Dragonlord Ojutai as protection for scion for now or if I want to be mean turn my Scion into Yosei, The Morning Star and freeze whoever came after me first.

It would be awesome to play against a fellow Scion deck. Right now I'm dealing with a Turbofog deck in our group so I either pound that deck with hits from dragon tempest or pull off the Door to Nothingness which usually gets both a shocked reaction and utter laughter.

Thanks for all the recommendations though! Much appreciated!

May 20, 2015 5:15 p.m.

smiffdemon says... #28

Karrthus is kinda pricey, so I totally get it. Thankfully, Silumgar isn't! If you find him laying around at your local cardshop, I think he'd be a pivotal addition.

But yeah, play to cater to your opponents for sure. Don't let me tell you otherwise! It's the reason that I have a sideboard with Pithing Needle and Phyrexian Revoker which are weak cards in general but not to my playgroup that has a few people using commanders from the 2014 sets.

+1'd by the way!

May 20, 2015 5:27 p.m.

thatgingerguy says... #29

smiffdemon Thanks a lot! I'm sure someone in my playgroup has a silumgar somewhere so I'll ask them first (though I don't know how much they are really willing to help me these days haha).

May 20, 2015 5:30 p.m.

Heavystorm274 says... #30

Mana Confluence? City of Brass? I feel like both would add some more consistency.

May 20, 2015 7:54 p.m.

As a fellow Scion player, I can safely say he's one of my favorite generals to play (and I've played a few). Some quick thoughts I had... Mana Bloom and Armillary Sphereare far outclassed by some very cheap pieces of ramp... Skyshroud Claim and Farseek(which get better if you have shocklands or True Duals), while Mind Stone and Chrome Moxare cheap and good pieces of ramp (okay, Chrome Mox isn't super cheap.) Moving on, Terminus might not be the greatest piece of boardwipe for a deck that relies on it's commander as much asScion decks do. Austere Command may be the actual best boardwipe, and it gets points for being one of the most modal. Leyline of the Void is a great Magic card, but it clashes with your reanimator subtheme. Something targeted like Tormod's Crypt is often better. Kill Shot is easily outclassed by Swords to Plowshares and Path to Exile, and Krosan Grip is just something you should be playing. Gravepurge is not as good as Footbottom Feast, you should play Feast first every time. I'll finish up with a few Dragons... Dragon Tyrant usually spells the end of an opponent, Quicksilver Dragon says "2U: Save Scion from a spot removal spell", Hellkite Charger + Bear Umbra + Aggravated Assault makes infinite combat steps, and Scourge of Valkas, in addition to being my favorite card with the Dragon subtype, is the best thing to target with a kicked Rite of Replication. Also, while I remember, you're playing all 5 colors so play the best counterspells: Plasm Capture, Counterflux, and Pact of Negation won't break the bank, while Mana Drain and Force of Will are the best counterspells ever. Whatever floats your boat.

Scion of Legends Playtest

Commander / EDH* ViridianTempest


The only other thing I can suggest, which would do more for this deck than any of the above suggestions,is to upgrade the manabase to shocklands/true duals and fetchlands. This is easily the most expensive part of a 5-color deck, and it's not an easystep to take, but the more consistent your mana is, the more often you'll get to smack people with big fat dragons. Take a look at my list if you don't mind, and let me know if there's anything you think I should change. Thanks for listening to me ramble on for way too long :p

May 20, 2015 11:34 p.m.

smiffdemon says... #32

ViridianTempest: Gravepurge and Footbottom Feast literally do the exact same thing for the exact same CMC.

May 20, 2015 11:57 p.m.

thatgingerguy says... #33

ViridianTempest Thanks for all the suggestions. Yeah I want to jump to Shock lands but it's definitely a $$$ thing. I've been playing this deck consistently since i've built it and haven't had much of an issue with my mana base. 4-5 times I'm up there pretty quick.

As far as leyline it doesn't mess with my reanimation because it only affects my opponents (I have a deck in my playgroup that depends on delve and another that has a lot of undying) so it's mainly a smack to the face for them. I also just picked up a Plasm Capture and getting a Counterflux this week so i'm making swaps (was using what I had handy for counterspells at first). With the infinite combat steps I was running with Bear Umbra + Savage Ventmaw + Aggravated Assault while having a few dragons out as well. Does the same thing but the combat steps cost me 2 less than they would with Hellkite Charger.

I'll definitely check your deck out as well and thanks again for checking this one out.

May 21, 2015 9:37 a.m.

Zicca21 says... #34

I had a Scion deck and changed it into Karrthus but one of my favorite cards for the deck, and quite tribal, is Cryptic Gateway - it allows for you to drop something like Dragon Broodmother, Broodmate Dragon, or Bladewing the Risen and have multiple dragons on the battlefield to immediately tap and bring in more dragons. It's really helpful when an opponent has a lot of bounce spells because you can recast the dragons a few times without having to spend near the amount of mana. This works especially well when you have Dragon Tempest on the field.

My last suggestion for you would be Mirari's Wake because as soon as you get it out everything get's better. Double mana is the best for expensive CMC dragon cards!

Nice Deck, keep brewing!

May 22, 2015 2:46 p.m.

Zicca21 says... #35

And you already have Mirari's Wake, my bad.

May 22, 2015 2:48 p.m.

thatgingerguy says... #36

Zicca21 Thanks for the suggestion on Cryptic Gateway!

As soon as I think I'm done brewing on this I find something else/get recommended something else.

May 22, 2015 2:50 p.m.

That's the cool thing about EDH: It's your deck, and your decks are supposed to be extensions of yourself, so as your interests and playstyles change, so do your decks. And when people tell you about cool stuff, you can just jam it in for stuff you no longer want to use.

Also, don't listen to smiffdemon, Footbottom Feast is 124% better than Gravepurge. Trust me.

May 27, 2015 7:46 p.m.

smiffdemon says... #38

ViridianTempest I think you're screwin with me now lmao

May 27, 2015 11:18 p.m.

xavouine says... #39

Solid list, looks fun! :PHow about Unburial Rites to get even more extra value out of these dragons ?

May 28, 2015 10:27 a.m.

thatgingerguy says... #40

xavouine Thanks for checking it out! I've thought about that one as well. Just getting to the point where cutting/swapping cards has become extremely difficult haha. This deck has been a lot of fun and has drawn a fair amount of hate in my playgroup as it's taken down every EDH deck in it.

May 28, 2015 10:47 a.m.

Mackman99 says... #41


May 29, 2015 10:41 a.m.

thatgingerguy says... #42

Mackman99 yeah want one, never pulled one and he's still sitting up at about $40 so it's a lot to drop. There are some in my playgroup but all not wanting to trade haha.

May 29, 2015 11:05 a.m.

maxshadow987 says... #43

here are a couple of good combo in those deck

and i think you already know - Moltensteel Dragon + Scion of the Ur-Dragon + Skithiryx, the Blight Dragon

if you need inspiration you can also look at my deck scion of the many dragon

June 4, 2015 2:21 p.m.

thatgingerguy says... #44

maxshadow987 I have checked out your deck before and it is also awesome. I have the aggravated assault + savage ventmaw combo in my deck and trust me my playgroup has seen that combo pop off more than once. It's an interesting deck to play because I'm constantly shifting how I have to play it. Also it brings about a lot of hate, there is a constant "gang up on the 5C deck" mentality in my group as of late haha.

Thanks for checking it out.

June 4, 2015 3:44 p.m.

Meghatron714 says... #45

I agree with a lot of the suggestions Athenaaa gave you. Patriarch's Bidding is my favorite card! Defense of the Heart would be amazing in this deck! You should also consider something like Bloom Tender for mana ramp. I threw one in my Scion deck just to try it out and it frequently allows me to throw the game-winning punch. Another great way to pull the mana necessary for this deck is with Land Tax. I would take out Descendants' Path and throw in a Birthing Pod instead! Works well with reanimate and allows you to control the dragons on your field. My second favorite card would be seriously beastly in this deck! Check out Sneak Attack, not only can you drop a creature for one red mana, but if you have good reanimate cards you can really beef up your graveyard for a Patriarch's Bidding or Living Death. Just something to consider!! Please look at my deck and see if you have any advice to offer. I don't know how to add a link without it taking you to someone else's deck instead. Just go to Meghatron714 and my deck is called "Did Someone Say Dragons?..." Thanks!

July 20, 2015 10:23 a.m.

Zer0w says... #46

Scion is the best! you've got some combos here that I had not considered for my scion deck. I might have to steel them :P

Other good 1 card combos to consider:

Credit Voucher + Keen Sense + Niv-Mizzet, the Firemind = win for only 7 mana. put keen sense on Scion, turn him into the Firemind, then draw cards until you are almost out of cards in your deck, then cast and activate the voucher discard your whole hand (about 80 cards and draw the mall again. You've dealt about 160-180 damage

Dack's Duplicate + Enduring Scalelord = a 9,999/9,999 flying creature and a 9,999/9,999 Scion for 6 mana. Just turn Scion into the Scalelord then cast Dack's Duplicate, attack with one or both Scalelord's (one or more opponents, as long as one has the most life) and the trigger will put +1/+1 counters on them until I want it to stop, then damage is dealt!

Dragon Tyrant + Might of the Nephilim = a 16/16 flying trample double strike dragon... aka instakill. simply attack with Scion then, whether or not they block you can say "surprise! your dead."

Aggravated Assault + Savage Ventmaw and Bear Umbra + Hellkite Charger = Attack infinite times... that just makes me happy ;D

Boros Charm + Pernicious Deed , now that's just mean! If you can combine it with Mycosynth Lattice it is just stupid.

Hellkite Tyrant + Mycosynth Lattice = steal all of your opponents stuff including lands.

Cyclonic Rift + Nicol Bolas is a fun and hateful thing to do, cast Cyclonic Rift overloaded, attack with scion, they can't block cause all of there stuff is in there hand, turn scion into Nicol Bolas, then then they drop there whole hand.

For other card ideas take a look at my scion deck, I've spent a lot of time on it and it is very strong. How to train yours Dragons.

+1 from me

November 20, 2015 9:42 p.m.

Deck looks like a lot of fun! I just build a Scion as well as a "cheat all my favorite cards" out kinda deck. Trying to determine if it will replace my Kaalia deck or if it will just be another fun deck a run. If you are in to cheating out fatties regularly but not really relying on them I'd recommend Elvish Piper, Maelstrom Archangel , and Kaalia of the Vast to get those bombs from your hand onto the battlefield with ease as well. If Scions getting them from the deck then someone should get them from hand as well lol! I run a lot of Nondragon cards because with 5 colors I have nearly all of magics critters at my disposal and Conspiracy is insane when it cheats out the likes of a Gisela, Blade of Goldnight while Atarka or what have you is also on the field.

May 1, 2016 2:30 p.m.

kkira says... #48

This comes a bit late, but I followed your advice and added more Dragons to my Ur deck. Thanks for the tips.

October 16, 2016 6:10 p.m.

thatgingerguy says... #49

kkira not a problem. Glad I could help. I need to actually play this deck more again. Been playing a Mizzix of the Izmagnus deck for some time now.

October 21, 2016 2:05 p.m.

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-1 Hex main
-1 Leyline of the Void main
+1 Fist of Suns main
+1 Obelisk of Alara main
-1 Explosive Vegetation main
-1 Mirrodin's Core main
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