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Taking this beast on tour! My average is a win by turn 7. If I don't get flooded that is :P
Wait till the other player has a large creature out. Then...
I don't expect to get my Slumbering Dragon to get high enough to attack or block. He's really just there to freak out high aggro decks... So...
And of course Vexing Devil for an early WTF?!
Any suggestions for sideboard? Or any other ideas?
So I just took out the cards from the Mirrodin block and have only included some suggestions that others have made that I have felt worked while I was play testing.
Can't wait to see what Return to Ravnica has to offer us! This deck is still a LONG way off from being complete!
Thanks for all the comments and suggestions so far! Looking forward to hearing other ideas and strategies in the future!
I was thinking more burn but I didn't want to get stuck with no creatures on the field leaving me wide open. Wall of Fire was just added to help against bigger creatures. Plus no one I play against remembers I can pump him up :D
Any other cards you could think of to take it's place?
Chandra's phoenix is a great one to add and have 4 of them they cost the same as your wall of fire and they're a 2/2 with haste so your swinging in with them and they reoccur themselves with your burn. A side not, why not volt charge instead of brimestone volley, it would let you proliferate your dragon so you can up the counters on him. My suggestions would be.
-2 wall of fire, -1 Firewing Phoenix, - 2 Hound of Griselbrand, +4 chandra's phoenix which leaves you a space open for +1 chandra's Chandra, the Firebrand. -4 red sun's zenith, +4 shrine of burning rage, - 2 goblin arsonist, -3 furnace scamp ( i know this may seem like a lot of changes and it is, but im giving you the best advice i can offer. Also furnace scamp is fun but you have better one drops i.e. vex devil and others but here this out.) +2 stromkirk noble ( there are so many humans out right now, he's just to awesome not to have four of him.) +2 Slumbering Dragon/-4 Slumbering Dragon and +4 hellrider ( which is amazing, he has haste and when you swing with him for every attacking creature as well does 1 point of damage to target player, which could be redirected to planes walkers.) either way you have an extra slot if my math is right lol. -3 increasing vengeance (its cute but if you really wanted to go this route i would with reverberate, it allows you to copy your opponents spells as well.) +1 searing blaze, +3 volt charge and the last thing -1 brimstone volley for a +1 devils play. -8 mountains, +4 copperline gorges and +4 rootbound crags (for sideboard options). Another side note lol. If you play act of aggression instead of traitorous blood because it's an instant. This would be an awesome RDW...hope you like my ideas and remember you dont have to do any of this.
Side board3 Ancient Grudge stupid2 shock2 pillar of flames4 Thunderous Wrath stupid flyers2 naturalize2 dismembers because of things that have 4 or greater toughness
well there is a side board of you like it lol let me know how you like this stuff as well
I haven't really had a chance to use him. I feel that Hellrider does and doesn't work for this deck. Sure every time I attack it does 1 damage for each attacking creature. My deck isn't real creature oriented tho. If I use him it'll probably be to swap out with Hound of Griselbrand . That way I won't have too many 4 drops.
I know of Zealous Conscripts ! I just haven't thought about it here tho... hmmmm... It is a interesting idea and I think it would flow really well here. My only concern is it's cost. My biggest drops are 4 and I don't have too many of them... I think I could give it a try and see what happens! Thanks :D
I recommend -2 Shock +2 Pillar of Flame , because nothing is better than exiling their card:Geralf's Messenger or their Gravecrawler . I do realize that Shock is instant speed, making it better in some situations, but I think you would rather have Pillar of Flame in most situations. Also, take Thunderbolt out of your maybe board. It's nowhere nearly as good as Incinerate in your main-deck. I run some in my side board so I can kill their Restoration Angel . Again, the idea of this deck is cool, and it's nice to see it not splashing black for Bloodthrone Vampire .
Funny, you are actually the first person to ask about Bonfire of the Damned ! :D
Don't get me wrong! I would love to have that card! Miracle cost is amazing! However in the box plus of Avacyn Restored I purchased I pull ZERO! D': Only one of my friends pulled it... and he pulled 2 of them, and is currently using them both.
I am just TOO CHEAP to buy this card single. I am waiting to find someone that isn't using them that are looking to trade. Yet it seems like a losing battle :P
I was going to say, if you were willing to spend some money, while not as much as bonfire, Thundermaw Hellkite is an awesome addition to any red deck. It might not be the most expensive card in your eyes, but I'm like 13, so deck-building with even slightly expensive cards is hard for me. On a side note, this deck is awesome. Period.
If you're going to steal creatures to "fling" them, why not use Mark of Mutiny instead? It has the same CMC as Traitorous Blood but adds a +1/+1 counter. That one damage could make a big difference. My friend runs a similar deck, except he Fling s his own creatures. Fling ing Malignus with a Curse of Bloodletting on the field is his win-con. Maybe the Curse could help as well?
How often do you get to use Reverberate ? I play tested your deck against a few of mine and most times it seemed like a dead card to me. Don't get me wrong it is nice to be able to copy a spell of yours for double the fun, or "an eye for an eye" so to speak in the case of an opponents spell, but I felt it was more of a sideboard card.
On the contrary though I can't think of much to really replace it with, but if you ever found another card that you wanted Reverberate would be one of the first cards I would consider swapping out
You are spot on! Reverberate was put in here as a "eye for an eye" card really. When I ran this last week at FNM I found that I ended up siding it out for Thunderous Wrath which helped out a lot more it seemed. I am probably going to be swapping it to the sideboard, especially since Chandra, the Firebrand 's -2 is Reverberate all on its own :D
Yes I am considering Whipflare and Slagstorm but since they are going out of standard soon I am not use them :'( Volcanic Fallout is pretty sweet! but again I am looking to keep this deck as standard as possible. When Return to Ravnica drops in October I will find out if this deck will transition over to standard format easy... If not then I guess this one will go modern! :D
Thanks for all the suggestions!
I love RDWs, and I have always been a fan of the Act of Agression/Fling idea.
My suggestions (if you have access money/access):
Sideboard;Change out all+3xcard:Red Sun's Zenith +2xReverberate +2xAncient Grudge (put Rootbound Crag s in Mainboard so you can use Ancient Grudge 's flashback) +2x Zealous Conscripts +2xShrine of Burning Rage +3x Combust +1xBonfire of the Damned
Stromkirk Noble s are possibly the best One Drop for right right now. Slumbering Dragon slows aggro that doesn't have an answer for it, if they are swinging through like mad, letting the dragon get bigger, you better count on them having a vapor snag/kill spell in hand, and that's when you hold on to your fling, and fling the beefy dragon in response to them removing it.Bonfire of the Damned ... besides being the single most broken card in the format... no that's about it... most broken card, run it, run it hard! So much aggro out there, you are going to want to see it most of the time... when you don't, Faithless looting.Faithless Looting is better than Wild Guess imo. The flashback gives you so much better card draw, if you are running two, you should see at least one per set of three matches. Meaning, you get to use it twice. Guess that one is more preferenceShrine of Burning Rage ... I would personally run it as a 4x, but you didn't main board it, so I imagine it's not your favorite. This card will win you so many games, board stalls, you win, you play lots of spells, you win. Get this bad boy out there turn two... it will be hard for you to lose. Just play around the three mana you need to activate it incase they target it to destroy it.
Sideboardcard:Red Sun's Zenith Vs. Zombie/Reanimator/UndyingAncient Grudge Vs. Artifacts... better than Torch Fiend cause you get flashbackBonfire of the Damned Vs. Any aggro asside from Zombie... no, even zombie.Shrine of Burning Rage Vs. ControlZealous Conscripts Vs. Wolfrun, or anything that uses big creatures + more Fling Combust Vs. White or Blue creatures.... Delver.Reverberate Vs Control, or decks that run Bonfire of the Damned
I have Shrine of Burning Rage side boarded... I didn't want to rely heavily on it since it will be cycling soon :'(
Alas the only thing standing in the way of Bonfire of the Damned is money... I am on the look out for better deals and I am still trying my luck out with packs every once and awhile.
This beast is changing! Thanks for the suggestions :D
Thanks for your input!