Necronomicon | Teysa Karlov | Primer

Commander / EDH Masterful

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Jan. 10, 2019

IN:

  • Wayfarer's Bauble & Knight of the White Orchid: Amazing early ramp card for non-green. Land ramp is invaluable because of its resistance to disruption.

  • Mana Crypt: Possibly the best card in EDH. I'm not sure why I didn't have it in here originally. It's even better in this deck due to our resistance to incremental life loss.

  • Priest of Forgotten Gods: This card does everything our deck wants to be doing and MORE. If only it had a death trigger tagged on.

OUT:

  • Merciless Eviction: While this is a great board wipe, exiling our own creatures hurts pretty bad. The other board wipes in the deck, while less versatile, have more synergy and less potential downside.

  • Dawn of Hope: This is also a great versatile card, but we have other more efficient token producers and card draw. We also aren't constantly trying to capitalize on lifegain like a lifegain deck that would really want this card might do.

  • Cathars' Crusade: A good win condition, but quite useless during setup or while behind.

  • Plaguecrafter: This provided a lot of utility by being a one-time sacrifice outlet while forcing our opponents to sac, but it didn't do any one thing amazingly that the rest of our deck couldn't already do.

Ashen0ne says... #1

+1 for you my friend!

Been working on this new Teysa myself since she's my wife's favorite character among the guilds. Since her birthday is right around the release of this set I'm hoping to have it pretty much together so that she can play her the moment she gets her.

This has been a big help. You're thoughts and descriptions are very informative and I can see this deck is going in the right direction. Hadn't even considered the synergies with Requiem Angel and Divine Visitation

Can't think of anything to suggest just yet that isn't already either in the deck or the maybeboard. Are you planning on running the new Smothering Tithe in this one?

January 6, 2019 9:53 p.m.

Masterful says... #2

RecklessN7 I'm glad you found the guide helpful. Smothering Tithe is interesting. It will certainly create at least 2-3 treasures per round, so it effectively taps for 3+ each turn. It also works very well with Anointed Procession. I'll put it in the maybeboard for now until I can figure out what to take out. Cathars' Crusade is on my radar since it's a bit win-more.

January 6, 2019 11 p.m.

kyleskickinit says... #3

I wouldn't put cathars crusade unless you go full on counters theme - which makes Ghave a better commander. I had Cathars Crusade in my deck along with Blade of the Bloodchief, Carrion Feeder and Animation Module. Those pushed out other pieces that I could have put in and made the deck feel less aristocrats.

January 7, 2019 2:21 a.m.

Masterful says... #4

kyleskickinit I don't think Cathars' Crusade needs to be in a counters matter deck to be good, just in a deck that has a lot of creatures entering the battlefield. However I do think that it's a bit clunky due to its mana cost, and its effect being useless at certain times. It's probably going to go once I get around to updating the deck with some of the maybeboard.

January 7, 2019 6:21 p.m.

Wargru says... #5

Teysa will not double the effects of creatures with a trigger that resolves upon their own death. Teysa states that it doubles the trigger of permaments on board upon the death of the creature. For example, as Kokusho states that it triggers upon it's own death, Teysa will not double it. Upon it's death, it is no longer a permanent that you control, and is instead a card that is in the graveyard. It is easy to confuse, and I did the same thing myself before re-reading the card. So, Archon of Justice, Kokusho, Hunted Witness, Pawn of Ulamgog, etc. will not double. It needs to be permanents you control at the time the trigger is placed on the stack. Hope this helps clear up any confusion. :)

January 8, 2019 12:24 a.m.

Wargru says... #6

Although, disclaimer, Pawn of Ulamog triggering off the death of other creatures is still fair game to double.

January 8, 2019 12:29 a.m.

Masterful says... #7

Wargru I had a similar comment on my reddit post, so I'm going to copy my response:

Not sure where you read this (I can see now that the misconception seems to be that Teysa says 'permanent'), but Teysa is the first card printed that uses the term “dying” in place of dies. While no rulings have been released about her yet, this likely means creatures are still permanents while dying, thus her ability works with cards with Afterlife and cards like Doomed Traveler. It seems odd to release Teysa with such an ability if it doesn’t combo with the Orzhov mechanic of the set (especially since her other ability does), therefore I’m working under the assumption that it does. If you’ve seen some official rulings released about her that confirm what you’re saying, I’d like to see them. Otherwise, only the release of the set will tell.

To quote BlazingRagnarok from his MTGSalvation comment:

"If that were true, death/leaves the battlefield triggers wouldn't work at all, since permanent abilities do not function outside of the battlefield unless another zone is specified. The game uses something called last known information to allow such triggers to function, which allows Teysa to double other creatures' death triggers. When afterlife triggers, last known information says the creatures with afterlife were permanents on the battlefield, so Teysa copies their triggers."

January 8, 2019 2:21 a.m.

ZendikariWol says... #8

I would write a primer but I'm too busy trying not to drown in finals. Maybe sometime.

Anyhow, I made a similar brew, borrowed a card or two from yours, and now you deserve to borrow some cards from mine. Thanks for the help and happy brewing!


Teysa, Ayli, Elenda, Ravos, Athreos, Krav, Regna..

Commander / EDH* ZendikariWol

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January 8, 2019 2:44 p.m.

Last_Laugh says... #9

Ogre Slumlord makes some pretty significant deathtouch, vigilance, and lifelink tokens.

January 9, 2019 9:42 p.m.