RTR Potential Jund Control Build
Feel Free to comment, this is my first Non-Blue deck on this site haha. Not used to playing completely without it
After testing against the potential local meta, Geist of Saint Traft seems to be a popular choice, and this deck seems reasonably able to play against it, except for the version that plays increasing savagery (like the block version).
Life gain is pretty big in this deck, as drawing cards but that costs me life.
The deck is fun to play. Still not sure how optimal it is, definitely has weaknesses still, but I'm enjoying playing it and watching it come together.
I only just thought of this recently but Quirion Dryad will be amazing in RtR. I don't see Lily doing too much for you in this deck. She digs for lands but you don't have any really high cost cards. If you can afford it you need Bonfire of the Damned . Thragtusk doesn't sell me in this deck. Yes he gives versatility, but I see him more useful in a flicker deck or a side in vs. control or some such. Your land count is too high for a deck that doesn't break 5cmc. Some grixis decks play that much, but that's because their win-cons are 6+ cmc usually. I don't know if you really need 4 Sign in Blood as well as 2 Underworld Connections . Mizzium Mortars is another very useful board wipe if bonfire is too expensive (granted you have the new golgari PW in here so I doubt money is an issue).
September 11, 2012 5:34 p.m.
Hey, thanks for the advice. The Golgari Walker is kinda just hoping I get lucky with my box heh. I wouldn't normally be able to afford a card like that otherwise. The amount of draw spells could be quite high, and the Quirion Dryad is interesting. She can easily get big, but I'm expecting that there should be a lot of removal, so she might not work. That being said, if there isn't much, she sounds like a great idea. Thragtusk is in the deck since I'm expecting Zombies to be a thing, and I thought two bodies and 5 life might be good to stop them. I'm currently planning to use card:Devil's Play and Olivia Voldaren to make use of the high land count/flooding. It is possible there is too much land though.I'll definitely take your advice into consideration, it's been very helpful. Thanks a lot =)
September 11, 2012 9:37 p.m.
I don't think removal is going to be as big of a threat in RtR as a few people are thinking. Doom Blade and Go for the Throat are gone. Murder is less popular. Dreadbore is sorcery speed and requires 2 colors, thus less common. The same for Abrupt Decay . Also, Abrupt Decay is already expected to be easily 10+$. Looking at some of the other decks not many are running Oblivion Ring , at least not as much as they used to. I guess Tragic Slip is still around, but that'll require a morbid trigger. Plus Quirion Dryad gets 2 counters whenever you cast a B/R card.
September 11, 2012 10:36 p.m.
Quirion Dryad only gets one counter per spell. from the gatherer ruling
7/1/2012 Quirion Dryad's ability will trigger only once per spell you cast, as long as that spell is at least one of the listed colors.
i would suggest taking out the card:Devil's Play for card:Rakdos's Return, it provides massive card advantage by making them discard cards, as well as being an X burn spell
September 12, 2012 11:46 p.m.
Interesting. Thank you for clarifying. Glad I didn't start making that dryad deck already. Also, I second the card:Rakdos's Return.
September 13, 2012 12:38 a.m.
card:Rakdos's Return was definitely a consideration. I felt like later in the game that card:Devil's Play was a better finisher, due to the lack of cards in their hand later on, and the flashback of devil's play. Perhaps I'll try it with the return when the set comes out too. Perhaps I'm evaluating it incorrectly. Thanks a lot =)
September 13, 2012 10:14 a.m.
Thragtusk might be an issue to obtain, does anyone have any possible ideas on how to replace it?
September 17, 2012 7:03 a.m.
Have you considered putting in a Rogue's Passage or two to guarantee that Vraska's tokens go through if they go off?
September 19, 2012 4:58 a.m.
Hi. I think with this deck, growing the two creatures isn't what I'm aiming to do. however, the Menace could be a possibility depending on what kind of decks might show up when RTR comes out. I might need to grow the two. As for Rogue's Passage, I did not consider it. I do not expect Vraska to get to ultimate while my opponent has a board. I tested the mana base for this deck today, it ran very well, however, I don't think it can support a colourless land. Thank you for the creative ideas, if you have any more, please keep them coming =)
September 19, 2012 6:09 a.m.
Personally, i love Deathrite Shaman , he has so much utility, especially here where you are casting lots of spells as well as putting creatures into graveyards. If you do include him you might also consider some Evolving Wilds so you can exile them for mana, thus negating the incoming tapped land.
September 30, 2012 8:53 a.m.
My girlfriend is planning to acquire 4 Deathrite Shaman for her deck so I never considered it, but that being said, it could be very good out of the side against some match ups. The downside being, it dies to my boardwipes that aren't named Bonfire of the Damned . It could definitely be a good idea though, I'll try it once other people start playing more RTR at my play area. Thanks
September 30, 2012 6:24 p.m.
You were right, this is quite similar to my MBC - Mostly Black Control deck. I like it! I had considered running a Jund variation because Thragtusk is such a bomb and kind of laughs at Mutilate , but it just seemed to lose the spirit of MBC to me in some sense. I would agree with the person above, I'd run card:Rakdos's Return over card:Devil's Play, the former being absolutely fantastic against any mirror/control style deck. Sure it doesn't have the flashback, but making them pitch their hand and then stare at a Thragtusk , Desecration Demon , or Olivia Voldaren is pretty much just as good. ;)
I don't think Deathrite Shaman has a spot in a deck running 3-4 Mutilate . It's a fantastic card, but it's too fragile. I'd rather see Cremate in the board if you're worried about ripping things out of graveyards.
Anyway, seems really solid to me. +1'd!