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With a lot of the proposed changes I lose to modular edge that the deck has and shift more toward ravager affinity. And although I think that's a good deck, that's not what I wanted to make here. Thanks for comments and I'll let you know of any changes that are made. Cheers
February 8, 2017 10:16 p.m.
February 9, 2017 10:23 a.m.
How confident are you that Glimmervoid won't backfire? Affinity plays a lot more cmc0 and cmc1 artifacts, and even that deck occasionally has trouble with early removal also killing Glimmervoid.
February 10, 2017 8:46 p.m.
Emzed haven't had problems with it yet and i've been playing the deck nonstop since i made it. cheers
February 10, 2017 8:52 p.m.
Great deck! +1
It's nice to see ravager used in a new way.
Bioshift might fit in here.. maybe
February 10, 2017 10:30 p.m.
February 10, 2017 10:38 p.m.
Hey! I don't play Modern, but if I did I would play THIS LIST!!!!!!!!! In fact I just might! +1
February 10, 2017 11:52 p.m.
Geoffrey1 buddy. DO IT!!! Go have a time. Kick some ass chief this is a lot of fun !
February 10, 2017 11:59 p.m.
Awesome, haven't seen a deck like this before. +1
February 11, 2017 12:15 p.m.
hardhitta71194 thanks. I think it's the first of its kind. Stay tuned for some video playthroughs if you want to see it in action. Cheers!
February 11, 2017 12:25 p.m.
good luck on your further development!
February 11, 2017 6:27 p.m.
Sorry to burst your bubble, but it isn't anywhere near the top 100 on all of tapped out. Being in the "tops" section is good and all (certainly better than I have ever done), but the top decks have like 2000 upvotes, it's insane (most of them are also joke decks but that's beside the point).
Otherwise this looks like a fun deck, +1!
February 13, 2017 10:10 p.m.
Hey, yea Grunyarth, I understand it's not an all-time top deck, but if you look down on the right side it shows this is #4. I'm guessing this means decks posted by week or category. Cheers and thanks!
February 13, 2017 10:13 p.m.
I actually have a U/W deck similar to this, but I hadn't thought about adding Walking Ballista. It's a great idea. One thing I use as well is Steel Overseer. Another suggestion might be Efficient Construction to generate thopters every time you cast an artifact spell. Another thought might be Inexorable Tide if you added Inspiring Statuary.
February 14, 2017 10:09 a.m.
The average CMC value given by tapped-out isn't a very relevant number in the case of this deck. While it would matter for cards like Dark Confidant, the only thing you are doing with your spells is casting them. With regards to that, Thoughtcast and Metallic Rebuke usually only cost you 1-2 mana instead of 5 and 3 respectively, and your two X-creatures costs 2 or 4, but never 0. Fortunately, in your case those costs reductions and increases cancel eachother out to some degree, but i still wouldn't read much into the value given here on the site.
February 14, 2017 10:48 a.m.
Emzed I have calculated an adjusted CMC for the deck at 1.24-1.43. This adjusts for Ballista and hangabback being cast for 2 mana, and thoughtcast and metallic rebuke being cast for 1 (1.24) and 2 (1.43). The range gives an accurate representation of the actual costs the deck incurs. Thanks for your comment!
February 14, 2017 11:55 a.m.
February 14, 2017 11:59 a.m.
XVicarious Yup I originally built the deck with metallic mimic in it but found that it was a target for removal with no secondary benefit and also it can only help constructs or servos, not both. It was replaced with hardened scales.
February 14, 2017 12:09 p.m.
February 14, 2017 1:13 p.m.
I had sea gate wreckage, academy ruins and inventors' fair in the deck when I made it but they're too slow. I replaced them with darksteel citadel to activate mox opal and help thoughtcast. SaSSolino8
February 14, 2017 1:17 p.m.
Brilliant concept; +1 for sure!
It may be too slow, but I'm wondering if Ruins of Oran-Rief would be worthwhile as a one-of or two-of?
Do you have a feel yet for how it performs in various match-ups? Please keep us posted!
February 15, 2017 7:38 a.m.
clayperce hey thanks man, i'll try out ruins to see how it works.
As for match ups, I've been playing this deck nonstop since I made it and have played against every single deck in the modern meta multiple times over. There's nothing it does poorly against. As a matter of fact, it shines most against control (esper, azorius) and aggro (8whack, zoo, etc) because of creature manipulation and token generation. Harder match up are against midrange decks like Jund and Eldrazi and Taxes, however, all you have to do is play smart and not make hasty decisions. All the sideboard pieces are there to shut down combos, remove artifact hate, remove threats, etc. I'm confident that if this deck were played by a team at a major modern event they'd have great results.
If you want to see some of my playtesting results I have a 'video playthrough' section in my description. I will be constantly adding more videos to this as time goes on, as well. Cheers!
February 15, 2017 8:01 a.m.
This is an great idea and well constructed deck. I am a big fan +1
February 15, 2017 8:50 a.m.
I really love this list. I've been looking for an excuse to pick up a playset of Arcbound Ravagers. This might be it.
February 15, 2017 4:37 p.m.
Spire is a great replacement to do this deck on a budget. So is yavimaya coast. Glad you like the deck brother! catrule3564
February 15, 2017 4:44 p.m.
Have you given any thought to splashing black for Winding Constrictor?
February 15, 2017 5:39 p.m.
Yes but the costs of speed and flexibility outweigh the benefits. The 1 CMC slot in this deck is where all the utility comes from. Having a 2 CMC utility card would hurt tempo a lot cause it means we really don't start seeing residual benefit til turn 3, and also, if constrictor gets bolted it becomes a sunk cost whereas other creatures can provide further benefits at death. Thanks tho TheFausz
February 15, 2017 5:49 p.m.
Have you considered a 1-2 inclusion of Stoic Rebuttal over a straight 4 inclusion of Metallic Rebuke? I feel that your deck runs slow enough that such an inclusion would hold value into your mid game.
February 15, 2017 11:07 p.m.
I was looking at various affinity and artifact decks trying to find a replacement for Arcbound Stinger, the card in the deck I like least. This is when I realized that Steel Overseer could be amazing. With Hardened Scales, Overseer just seems outright unfair.
February 16, 2017 12:41 a.m.
stoic rebuttal seems like it may impose a large enough demand on mana that it may not work. will playtest tho ArchFline.
catrule3564 i had steel overseer in the deck for a brief time but replace it with Arcbound Stinger for more modular. i will playtest again and let you know. It's definitely a spot that you could change if wanted to tho - not as integral as some of the other positions in the deck. Cheers!
February 16, 2017 8:37 a.m.
I can see the case for Steel Overseer being too slow/clunky. The modular creatures are a lot better than they look, but playing them just feels weird. Adding Overseer would take away from the "combo" turns that the deck can have, but would provide a way to abuse all of the tokens we can make off of Hangarback Walker and Animation Module. It's also worth noting that with Animation Module Overseer becomes "Tap,Pay X: Create X 1/1 Servos. X cannot be larger than the number of creatures you control."
It was just a thought, in any case. I'm sure you've done far more testing with the deck than I have been able to do, so I may be undervaluing the importance of modular creatures.
February 16, 2017 9:59 a.m.
catrule3564 i really like your note about overseer+animation mod. I am going to give this some testing and see how it feels - cause in the end, no matter what a deck looks like in theory, it's all about how it feels/plays. Cheers and thanks for giving some solid input man.
February 16, 2017 10:26 a.m.
February 16, 2017 11:50 a.m.
catrule3564 i am liking overseer a lot more than when i first had it in the deck. I think it's because i didn't have hangarback in the deck before so token generation was coming solely from animation module. Thanks again for the input!
February 16, 2017 7 p.m.
Althought this is an artifact deck, it surely is not an Affinity deck, as the only card with Affinity is Thoughtcast. May you please change the hubs?
That said, it doesn't have to be affinity for it to be PURE EVIL. This is genius, and if I had the money, I'd build it. +1.
February 16, 2017 8:36 p.m.
Have you come upon any bad matchups so far with the deck? Also, how has the deck performed against decks like Tron, Valakut, and Jund? I like the deck, definitely a +1!
February 16, 2017 10:20 p.m.
Is it just me or the deck does seem to struggle against pillow fort?
I didn't test sideboard though.
February 17, 2017 6:37 a.m.
February 17, 2017 7:13 a.m.
SaSSolino8 I think that's a question of preference. For me, I choose reverse engineer strictly because most often it's going to cost 2 and you get more draw. I ran reverse engineer in this deck for a bit and the extra card makes a bigger difference than it seems it would
February 17, 2017 7:40 a.m.
SaSSolino8 MusicMaster these matchups all depend on hand with this deck. Tron and valakut are speed-dependent decks. If you can interrupt a big play you can win. Pillow fort is the same. If you can outpace an opponent or play smart with ravager you can win, although it is one of the more difficult matchups, along with kind. Against Tron, we can dominate after sideboard as long as we can remove engineet d explosives. Cheers
February 17, 2017 7:46 a.m.
AwezomePozzum thanks! Spire can be used in place of glimmervoid to cut about $100 cost. Cheers
February 17, 2017 7:47 a.m.
Hmm... a few things:
You are running both Hardened Scales and Walking Ballista, so you might as well add Rite of Passage to combo off.Metallic Rebuke is nice and all... But Stoic Rebuttal is generally a better counter in artifact heavy decks. Animation Module is a great card if used in the right deck... But without an infinite mana combo is kind of lackluster.
Your sideboard could use some work, as you have nothing against titanshift, only one card against dredge, nothing against affinity aside from Pithing Needle, and most importantly in this meta, no consistent and effective ways of dealing with infect. May I recommend Tormod's Crypt, Hurkyl's Recall something along the line of Shadow of Doubt and Melira, Sylvok Outcast?
On a side note, you did beat me to creating the idea, I found yours under the 'similar decks' tab
March 6, 2017 6:37 p.m.
+1_** Very nice, man. I'd deffs be playing play this if I had the cash. Someday!
June 14, 2017 6:23 a.m.
Hot damn. I'm pretty new to this site and started looking for an affinity deck to play a while ago, but this is SO INTERESTING! I'm going to start building it slowly, as soon as I finish my current modern deck. It's really nice to see Hangarback Walker in a deck again, i don't see that to often.
September 9, 2017 11:37 a.m.
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