Meren's Returning Army

Commander / EDH NV_1980

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Cheaper yet again —May 30, 2017

Decided to remove Diligent Farmhand and Doubling Season and replace them with Hermit Druid and Entomb respectively.

Caeruleus says... #1

Hi :)

I appreciate this deck: the list looks pretty enjoyable. I just have a few of cards I think should be cut in favour of more interesting cards. If you want to keep the effect I've made some suggestions for alternatives in the slots; but really you could take those slots and put anything in there.

Happy Brewing & dream big! :)

May 11, 2017 2:11 a.m.

NV_1980 says... #2

Hi Caeruleus; thanks for your suggestions. No +1 though? Such a shame ;) I had Reclamation Sage and Sylvok Replica in here before, along with the other enchantment/artifact removal stuff and decided to remove them. Reason: the deck already had plenty of other ways to deal with artifacts/enchantments.

I agree that Vulturous Zombie is just a big, fat flier and that Rune-Scarred Demon or Devouring Strossus could at least be just as effective. I'm going to give that one some thought.

I'm not sure what to think about the Dilligent Farmhand suggestion. What the hell is 'Muscle Burst'?

May 11, 2017 2:29 a.m.

Caeruleus says... #3

Hi NV_1980,

In respect of (1) Maybe don't add those cards, but I think you can still do better then the Leige.

In respect of (2) Glad to hear it.

In respect of Diligent Farmhand. Consider it as a card in your opening hand. Comes down turn 1, sac's turn 2, and ramps you to 4 for turn 3. The Muscle Burst reference is irrelevant to the card in this context. It comes back off meren and can be repeated sac'd for lands. Compare to the Carytid, which also ramps to turn 3 meren. Except that it doesn't serve another purpose later, other than being a random blocker.

May 11, 2017 3:38 a.m.

NV_1980 says... #4

Hi Caeruleus,

For its casting cost, I think the Liege does alright. I can use its tokens for all manner of purposes in this deck and the bonuses to my other creatures are just gravy :) However, suppose I wanted some more control in this deck, I guess I'd replace it with something like Fleshbag Marauder or Spore Frog. I've also been looking into Deathrite Shaman, as a possible addition for multiple utility purposes.

I get that I can use Diligent Farmhand like an extra Sakura-Tribe Elder in this deck, I just didn't understand what the muscle stuff was about. But thanks for pointing that out.

May 11, 2017 8:29 a.m.

arkstudios says... #5

Hey man, I wrote out this long list for you but Tappedout wants to be lame and not let me save it.
Basically remove all of the comes into play tapped duel lands but 1 or 2 of them. Vivid lands do nothing in 2 color. Westvale Abbey as well. Just play basic lands.
Cards I'd like to see you add are reclamation sage, deathrite shaman, hermit druid, apprentice necromancer.
changing out Eldrazi Monument for Conjurers closet wouldn't be a bad idea either.

Thanks for the +1 man. Have a wonderful day.

May 28, 2017 4:47 p.m. Edited.

NV_1980 says... #6

Hi arkstudios,

Thanks for your recommendations! I think you're right about the Vivid lands not adding much in a two color deck; especially since they enter the battlefield tapped. I'm going to replace them with regular lands. The other two-color lands though ... I dunno yet. And I've actually won games by transforming Westvale Abbey ... I'm gonna ponder some more on this.

The creatures you're suggesting all sound interesting. Especially Reclamation Sage and Deathrite Shaman; I'm gonna think some more on what needs to go in order to make room.

Your last suggestion is also very useful and will be implemented immediately. More than a few of my creatures have ETB effects and survival is not really an issue in this deck anyway.

May 29, 2017 2:33 a.m.

arkstudios says... #7

If you rely to heavily on the duel lands/ you'll eat a blood moon one day and lose 1/2 of your mana base. Plus if you get a Hermit Druid then you can self mill, but keep it to a minimum.

May 29, 2017 2:53 a.m.

NV_1980 says... #8

My playgroup has banned Blood Moon, so I'm not too worried about that. The self mill of Hermit Druid does make it more valuable than Diligent Farmhand or Sakura-Tribe Elder in this deck. I might switch one of those out. I don't have a Hermit Druid yet though, so I'll start by acquiring one first :)

May 29, 2017 3:08 a.m.