Mayael's Wild Pair-ty

Commander / EDH MindAblaze

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To War! —May 16, 2014

I haven't been able to play this deck in it's most recent form lately, but it finally happened this week.

I had two games, which I learned a lot.

Game 1: Don't piss off the Scion of the Ur-Dragon player when you don't have flying defense ready...lost to Commander Damage...first one knocked out.

Game 2: The deck recovered from Wash Out naming green on turn 6, which bounced my Garruk Wildspeaker, beast token and Wild Pair back to my hand. The Kira, Great Glass-Spinner player ended up countering my Avacyn (which the Scion player ended up reanimating...) and Venser, Shaper Savanting my Sigarda and I still won.

Controlling Gisela, Blade of Goldnight, Warstorm Surge, Wild Pair and Sword of Feast and Famine all at the same time is just too much pressure for people to handle...

ChiefBell says... #1

Please can you delete some of the old updates - they're really confusing to read.

Cards that return things from graveyard to hand are generally not as strong as cards that return from graveyard to the battlefield. I would recommend Karmic Guide , it's extremely strong. You also have enough creatures with power 2 or less to make Reveillark not be a bad idea.

January 7, 2014 4:48 p.m.

MindAblaze says... #2

You have a point there. The old deck change updates are probably irrelevant.

January 7, 2014 5:05 p.m.

ChiefBell says... #3

I wish I could see what you commented! But I can't because you removed it!

January 7, 2014 5:11 p.m.

MindAblaze says... #4

So...what to replace then? Epoch would tell me he doesn't like Acidic Slime . I'm not particularly fond of Yavimaya Elder but it doesn't do the same thing as Karmic Guide ; it's "ramp" and draw at the same time. It's much better when Azusa or Oracle of Mul Daya is letting me drop multiple lands per turn. But often it's just a difficult to cast 2/1 that I can't do anything with until the next turn.

Do you think Reveillark is more necessary than any of my other creatures in that price-range? Sun Titan essentially does the same thing, without hitting Seedborn Muse and Elvish Piper but it does get any of my non-creatures. Paleoloth seems to be an option too...I dunno. I keep taking long looks at Warstorm Surge too but there have been so many situations where it results in blowouts...

I'm at a loss.

January 7, 2014 5:16 p.m.

MindAblaze says... #5

Lol. It was a point about cleaning up irrelevant updates. I took your advice but got didnt think to do it before I commented.

January 7, 2014 5:17 p.m.

ChiefBell says... #6

Epoch is both right and wrong. Acidic Slime is an amazing card if you've build a deck to revolve around ETB triggers (as I have). In my deck it can clear out all the opposing lands on the board by around T5. In another deck that isn't built to break the game so much - he IS slow and clunky.

For example - Viscera Seer + Saffi Eriksdotter + Acidic Slime + Reveillark .

This is a simple combo that is easy to pull of very quickly with some ramp. That's a good use of acidic slime. Any other use isn't so fantastic.

Well Reveillark + Karmic Guide together is incredible broken, but your deck doesn't revolve around infinite sacrifices so it's not suitable.

Karmic Guide is better than Reveillark so stick to that at first. I agree that Sun Titan is probably a little better than Reveillark in a non-combo deck.

I don't like Paleoloth because creatures going back to hand isn't great.

January 7, 2014 5:24 p.m.

MindAblaze says... #7

No. It's not. But Wild Pair requires it. Paleoloth is also a 5/5 with no evasion beyond that...hm.

January 7, 2014 5:28 p.m.

ChiefBell says... #8

But isn't the point of your deck to NOT play things from your hand?

January 7, 2014 5:31 p.m.

ChiefBell says... #9

I, personally, would use Mayael in a deck that could re order the top few cards so that I wasn't drawing high power creatures. That way I had control over the things I could cheat out and the cards that I drew were non creatures.

For example - you could use Sensei's Divining Top to try and never draw a creature but keep it in you library - then you can play it for 6 mana (is Mayael's ability 6? can't remember) instead of 8 or 9 or whatever.

January 7, 2014 5:33 p.m.

MindAblaze says... #10

Hm. If I was to find an Aura Shards to swap in for Hull Breach I could probably afford the Karmic Guide >Acidic Slime change. I'm just concerned about dealing with my opponents bastardy non-creature permanents, and I got hosed by my buddy's Maze of Ith and Mystifying Maze .

January 7, 2014 5:34 p.m.

ChiefBell says... #11

Try and fit in Aura Shards , that's good (in this deck). Unless you find it gets removed all the time, in which case you may want to go back to Hull Breach . Just see how Aura Shards works out.

Run Strip Mine for land destruction. Because Strip Mine + Sun Titan is horrible.

January 7, 2014 5:38 p.m.

MindAblaze says... #12

Yeah, I hear you. Sensei's Divining Top makes her much better. What it comes down to is most games I don't even cast her. If I'm using her ability then often I've run out of steam or I'm so far ahead it's getting out of hand.

That being said, Scroll Rack does what you're describing very well and Sylvan Library helps too. I don't necessarily need the redundancy of the Top but in a deck like Mayael the Chubby Chaser I see the value.

January 7, 2014 6:05 p.m.

Ohthenoises says... #13

Another thing that's great with Sun Titan is Safe Haven .

January 7, 2014 6:07 p.m.

ChiefBell says... #14

You could literally fill your deck up with super ramp and then big fatties. That way you could do Mayael's ability maybe T4 or 5 or something?

January 7, 2014 6:08 p.m.

MindAblaze says... #15

Ok. That's what I'll do and you're right. One can never go wrong with Wasteland and Strip Mine

January 7, 2014 6:10 p.m.

ChiefBell says... #16

A friend of mine plays Mayael and what he does is he ramps up massively in the early stages and then as soon as he possibly can he'll cast something like Worldly Tutor in his own turn, after his draw phase. He'll put something like Blightsteel Colossus on the top of his library and then activate Mayael. I'm almost certain he's had this work by T4 before with Lotus Cobra and a ton of fetchlands. I'm not sure EXACTLY how but it's certainly explosive. You can use tutors that send things to the top of your library instead of your hand to make Mayael silly.

January 7, 2014 6:16 p.m.

MindAblaze says... #17

@ Ohthenoises Safe Haven is a neat trick but one guy I play with is one of those LD junkies...it wouldn't be worth it I don't think. I'll keep it in mind.

@ ChiefBell I could just ramp and play fatties but that's not really my style. This set up is a little slower, but I feel like it gives me more resilience.

January 7, 2014 6:17 p.m.

MindAblaze says... #18

An earlier version of this dropped Avacyn on turn 4 thanks to Worldly Tutor and Bloom Tender . It's damn good ramp but very vulnerable.

January 7, 2014 6:21 p.m.

monkeysspade says... #19

for an alternate and i prefer Hellkite Charger infinite attack combo you could use Bear Umbra with it since its when the creature attacks. with the Sword of Feast and Famine if they were to somehow block hellkite charger both times it wouldn't work. or another card i recommend is Nature's Will so it isnt only restricted to hellkite dealing damage or whoever is the creature with the equipped card. and jsut a fun combo i like probably not that great to put in a mayael but just incase if it sounds fun to you Stuffy Doll and Pariah combo so your enemy hurts himself.

January 8, 2014 2:34 a.m.

MindAblaze says... #20

Stuffy Doll and Pariah are great fun, but they don't really fit here.

Nature's Will is interesting, but limited in that they just get to untap their lands on their turn anyway. Im a big fan of Vorinclex for shutting down their land. I guess it stops their instant speed removal, if they dont use it in response to the trigger, or counterspells...that's a good thing. I'd think in a deck build intended for combatting the Archenemy or something it may be really good. Or where there are still a number of people who get to go after you and you want said player dead...

Bear Umbra ...if this was a Uril, the Miststalker build it would be an auto-include. Even having said that though, much of the removal in my meta is exile, tuck or sweeper. Bear Umbra would help my creature survive the last one, but that's all. Second to that, my meta had a fair bit of green and black so the sword-bearer rarely gets blocked. TBH I've been considering taking Hellkite Charger out for my copy of Windbrisk Raptor . Most of the time I think it just does more.

January 8, 2014 11:11 a.m.

I love this! Mind if I take a few ideas for modifying my Marath EDH?

March 24, 2014 8:39 p.m.

Ohthenoises says... #22

What are your opinions on items that grant multiple attack steps?

World at War
Savage Beating
Aggravated Assault

I was able to successfully cast a World at War yesterday and then on the rebound turn I was able to cast Aurelia, the Warleader (who I see you have) for 3 attack steps.

Also, Xenagos, God of Revels , Nylea, God of the Hunt , and some of the other gods could be good here, particularly Xenagod with multiple attack steps compounding his pump, and his haste playing, oh so nicely, with Mayael the Anima . (A 5/5 becomes a 10/10, then a 20/20 which allows you to swing for 30 in one turn with just one creature.)

March 24, 2014 8:57 p.m.

MindAblaze says... #23

@ Krause...not at all, borrow away.

@ Ohthenoises Xenagod for sure, he's been on my "to acquire" list for awhile I just haven't prioritized it since I've been working on my Nekusar list. I'm keeping an eye out for them though. I love World at War and Savage Beating ...I've been trying to decide if Sterling Grove is serving its purpose but I need more testing...win-cons-aplenty in this deck so the tutors aren't as necessary.

March 24, 2014 9:45 p.m.

Ohthenoises says... #24

Well, sterling grove CAN go get Aggravated Assault ...

March 24, 2014 11:18 p.m.

Ohthenoises says... #25

Interesting note, you have 4 creatures that can fetch Xenagod off of Wild Pair ... interesting...

I'll post my wife's current WIP Mayael sometime soon to share with you.

March 24, 2014 11:55 p.m.