Marchesa: Queen of Pain (100% Altered)

Commander / EDH* Older20

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Shift of Focus & Musings —Feb. 27, 2018

In the past month or so I have discovered the joys of Xmage - a free online way to play magic. It's far from perfect but it enabled me to playtest the deck against a large variety of decks that I would not normally at my local game store. Decks on Xmage tend to be fairly creature heavy and explosive - everyone is playing dual lands, all the fetches, mana crypts etc. A lot of players run snowball decks where either they win quickly or they get board wiped and spend the rest of the game top-decking in hopes of a miracle card. Also general threat assessment seems lower than usual with people making dubious decisions then abandoning the game if it doesn't go well for them. Having said all that - it is still a good venue to test new cards or ideas.

This extensive play testing has lead me to make a number of changes and a slight shift of focus in my deck. I believe these changes have plugged some holes in the deck and made it a more well-rounded and solid build. I have provided a few points of thought (Read: inane rambling) below:

.. This deck isn't a creature deck.

In the past I've been treading a fine line with the creatures in this deck, where I have wanted to play powerful creatures like Grave Titan to have a creaturely board presence, but win the game with incremental damage. However I've come to embrace the idea that my creatures should be generally cheap and provide great value - I'm not playing a Craterhoof Behemoth deck and the compromise wasn't helping me win. Nowadays most of the game I'll have 1-3 creatures on the field and their sole purpose, for the most part, is to preserve the Monarchy, keep me alive and/or drain my opponents.

However, what few creatures I have should have tools to preserve and enhance them. I added in Sword of War and Peace and Sword of Feast and Famine a while ago and they have been all stars. The protection allows me to regain Monarch and often bypass a clogged board of giant creatures to get those last few points of damage in. I have just added Sunforger to my equipment package to see how it performs. I have held off putting it into the deck for a while due to it being quite expensive mana wise - however I hope the payoff of incredible flexibility will be enough for it to have a home in the deck.

.. Flexibility.

Speaking of which: Sunforger give access to answers and provides instant speed options to virtually every problem. This is an idea that I love and recently have added two cards which assist in this goal. Vampiric Tutor and Mirage Mirror. Vampiric Tutor doesn't need much comment - it gives you access to whatever you want, (virtually) whenever you want it. The only reason I didn't have it in the deck previously was because I didn't own a copy. Mirage Mirror is more interesting. I was playing in a game against a Sram, Senior Edificer and had just tutored for my Sword of Feast and Famine, I played it without thinking and quickly learned the power of the Mirror. My opponent was able to copy the Sword, swing, untap, play a bunch of spells and pull far ahead. Perhaps a simple misplay on my part demonstrated the power of a card that can become the strongest Artifact, Enchantment or Creature on the field each turn and is extremely hard to remove. I threw it into my deck immediately and it has outperformed my expectations.

Mirage Mirror underlines why having options is so valuable. Not only does it provide a more fun way of playing, but there are fewer times where you feel the game is out of your control; you always have an ace up your sleeve.

.. Play your opponents.

I have to admit that I have a strong mental picture of how EDH magic should be played. I like decks that are proactive and earn their victories. By this I mean decks that after a victory they can point to many times in the game where they did something that had a major contribution to their later victory. I also like decks that allow other players to play their own game; no extra turns or controlling another player or infinite combos. In contrast, I love this deck because it can punish other players for playing their decks and capitalises other players' overextensions. Plonk down a 50/50 fatty? Backlash. Have 200 elves? Rakdos Charm.

For a long time I played this deck very aggressively and with more pain cards. However I have come to realise that there should be a balance of aggression & pain and patience & passiveness. This deck will never really win the game outright very early, but it digs it's heels in and can have a stranglehold over the game with Ankh of Mishra, Spellshock, Manabarbs with Exquisite Blood and No Mercy out. Often this will provoke desperation and overcommitment by other players as they get lower and lower. Having a handful of spells such as Deflecting Palm, Arcbond and Teferi's Protection is a fantastic feeling as your opponents' life totals tick lower.

With a lot rattlesnake cards out (Ophiomancer / No Mercy) your opponents will often only swing at you when they are convinced they can kill you. Your play up to that point should ensure that you have an answer for that moment - because that is when you either act or die. Your opponent likewise will probably in the same position - kill Queen Marchesa or die to Twilight Prophet & Wound Reflection. However this deck is built to survive do-or-die scenarios exactly like this - you have forced your opponent to play your game. It is a thrilling way to play.

So these were some random musings - I hope they were interesting or at least comprehensible to those reading. Feedback/comments are always appreciated!

Nice deck. I would love to hear how Mathas, Fiend Seeker is working for you. I play Queen Marchesa: Politics, Aikido, and Control, and I don't think that he has a home in my deck. I would love to see someone use him well, though.

September 5, 2017 9:22 p.m.

Older20 says... #2

Thanks mate, I actually haven't had a chance to thoroughly test Mathas yet. A key part of this deck is to not treasure you own creatures much; many times I have played Marchesa turn 3 and board wipe turn 4 just to gain Monarch and begin the incremental value. Its important to get creatures that generate value quickly; so not sure how Mathas fits into that - but I like what little play testing I've done so far.

September 7, 2017 9:10 p.m.

Older20 says... #3

Just some recent changes:

Mathas, Fiend Seeker -> Erebos, God of the Dead

Mathas has just been too slow and only really pays off with a board wipe. He isn't terrible - just mediocre. Erebos has always fitted perfectly into the deck - not the most exciting card either but efficient and useful.

Sheoldred, the Whispering One -> Insurrection Insurrection is just a more powerful card which wins games. Sheoldred doesn't really fit into the style of the deck either - if I want the recursion some time in the future I will probably use a Sun Titan.

I've also put in Arcbond, Grenzo, Havoc Raiser & Vampire Nighthawk after drawing inspiration from precociousapprentice's very cool Queen Marchesa deck. I've played with Arcbond before in an old infect deck and its surprisingly powerful. Fits very well into my build of Queen Marchesa.

October 22, 2017 10:47 p.m.

OTPHJ says... #4

Excellent deck description, i came here to see how you formatted that section and some notable inclusion you may have. My Marchesa deck focuses on lifegain swings and deters opponents from attacking me like any respectable Marchesa deck. Kaeverek is an interesting inclusion, the cmc for what you are getting is a little high for me when you could just include a vial smasher for 3 mana. I feel like erebos, god of the dead doesn't do enough for me to include it, i don't find opponents gaining enough life and i can draw enough cards through the queen and paying two mana is annoying. Check my list out and tell me what you think.

November 28, 2017 12:57 a.m.

Older20 says... #5

Thanks for commenting! The CMC for Kaeverek is quite high but with the amount of ramp that I run + Marchesa's card draw into lands I never really have issues casting him. He does draw an awful lot of hate though. I found vial smasher's damage below what I would like and it doesn't hurt 3+ players enough. Erebos could be cut - however occasionally shuts down entire decks + my mana curve is pretty low so using that extra 2 mana every now and then is no problem.

December 9, 2017 3:06 a.m.

Older20 says... #6

Rough New Years Update:

Before I get to the Ins/Outs I wanted to share an image that I created in the hopes of getting a custom playmat done for my favourite EDH deck. It is a very subtly edited artwork version of the Queen herself - just with my spin / interpretation as Marchesa as a battle/pain queen that has fought for her position. Link: https://imgur.com/a/YLne9Queen Marchesa

Out:

Grenzo, Havoc Raiser Didn't impress too much - will still keep on the Maybe list

Aura of Silence I still really like this card - but going to try Mana Web as an alternative Stax option

Painful Quandary Really gets the attention of the entire table in a bad way. I still like it though.

Olivia Voldaren Was actually perfectly happy with the utility Olivia provided so this might be very temporary

Fumiko the Lowblood Love this card - another temporary swap most likely

Debt to the Deathless + Exsanguinate + Gray Merchant of Asphodel Removed the entire package in favor of more control / action

Harsh Mentor Didn't do quite enough - was powerful on occasion but a lot of the time just a bear

Vial Smasher the Fierce Not enough damage - warps how I sequence spells as well which I didn't like

Erebos, God of the Dead This guy is always in and out - could always be brought back into the fold

In:

Mana Web Trialling this card which I have wanted to for ages - interested to see how it performs

Sword of Feast and Famine + Sword of War and Peace Makes regaining Monarch a lot easier. War and Peace is surprisingly good as with the inherent card draw in the deck you often have a large hand size which can net you a lot of life

Talisman of Indulgence + Mind Stone More ramp to enable turn 3 Queen Marchesa

Deflecting Palm Trialling this to avoid losing Monarch (Often opponents only attack with only enough to steal Monarch) and occasionally to reverse blow out the game.

Grave Titan A big threat which works well with Purphoros, God of the Forge

Archfiend of Depravity Trying this fella' out. Have wanted to for a while.

January 2, 2018 2:08 a.m.