Mana Loop Win

Standard* Glycan

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FNM —June 8, 2012

Got 3rd place out of six players, and not very legitly (lack-of-time draw for the first round, which was the only time I got out my combo, forfeit in the second round because some guy decided he didn't really want to play, and lost the third round. Fourth round was canceled due to a lack of people)

Glycan says... #1

@fireteam: My logic was that with, Palladium MyrMTG Card: Palladium Myrs alone, you can't get a turn-4 wincon.

  1. Land
  2. Land
  3. Land
  4. Land + Palladium Myr
  5. Land + Myr Galvenizer x2 + Wincon

As apposed to

  1. Land
  2. Land + Sliver/Leaden Myr
  3. Land + Palladium Myr + Myr Galvenizer
  4. Myr Galvenizer + Wincon

Although the chances of the former are 5/25. I'll try out Forbidden Alchemy, which seems a great deal more useful than that Think Twice for only one more mana. Also, why should they be at instant speed?

May 20, 2012 5:55 a.m.

Glycan says... #2

@fireteam: Based on your suggestions, I replaced 2x Silver Myr by 2x Palladium Myr, 2x Leaden Myr by 2x Alloy Myr, 4x Diabolic Tutors by 4x Forbidden Alchemy. Here's the stats:

  • Average: 11.4
  • Length: 5
  • Frequancy: [(8, 1), (12, 1), (11, 1), (20, 1), (6, 1)]

I'll try out replacing the Alloy Myr by shapeshifters.

May 20, 2012 6:22 a.m.

Glycan says... #3

@fireteam: So I did that, I replaced Think TwiceMTG Card: Think Twice with Forbidden Alchemy, and got slightly better results, but still worse than the original

  • Average: 9.4
  • Length: 5
  • Frequancy: [(8, 2), (9, 1), (10, 1), (12, 1)]

I generally have to many Exsanguinates than I need. What if I removed some in exchange for some Forbidden Alchemy? Also, 2 shapeshifters for the same.

May 20, 2012 6:42 a.m.

Glycan says... #4

@fireteam: Did the above, got:

  • Average: 8.0
  • Length: 5
  • Frequancy: [(10, 1), (12, 1), (5, 1), (6, 1), (7, 1)]
May 20, 2012 6:58 a.m.

Glycan says... #5

For the same:

  • Average: 7.6
  • Length: 10
  • Frequancy: [(6, 3), (12, 2), (5, 2), (7, 2), (10, 1)]

And if I replace the 6 defensive spells with 3 of each monocolor Myr, tweek the lands, and accidently remove the two Evil Twins..:

  • Average: 7.0
  • Length: 10
  • Frequancy: [(7, 4), (9, 2), (5, 2), (10, 1), (4, 1)]
May 20, 2012 12:36 p.m.

fireteam says... #6

This is looking a lot better. I might recommend DismemberMTG Card: Dismember, you can pay the three if you want to, or you can get a kill spell for only 1 mana.

May 20, 2012 8:37 p.m.

Glycan says... #7

Questions:

  • Any ideas for things that give everyone haste cheeply? That would give me a couple of turns of advantage, if done right
  • Shapeshifter themes
  • Token swarm clearers that cost cheaper IRL than Ratchet Bomb
May 21, 2012 10:03 a.m.

The mana loop idea is cool. But all that mana and just cheap spells to spend it on? I'd say throw in something scary then with all those useless myrs Infinite ReflectionMTG Card: Infinite Reflection them.

May 21, 2012 12:39 p.m.

Just a thought outside of ExsanguinateMTG Card: Exsanguinate anyway

May 21, 2012 12:41 p.m.

Glycan says... #10

@EndingWithDrake: Really no, because the Myr really aren't useless, and they aren't there for the mana. This isn't an ramp-then-reflect deck.

May 21, 2012 9:30 p.m.

Dirt3pz says... #11

nice kitchen table deck.

May 23, 2012 7:12 p.m.

Glycan says... #12

@Dirt3pz: Well, what does it lack?

May 23, 2012 7:34 p.m.

Toddington says... #13

Have you considered red, it gives you access to Whipflare and Fireball variants?

Steel Hellkite is another infinite sink that isn't useless when you don't have infinte mana.

Shimmer Myr, flash out your combo pieces around removal counters.

Nice deck.

May 26, 2012 5:54 p.m.

Glycan says... #14

@Toddington: Whipflare would be very useful, but only as a sideboard, since it's fairly useless against control or (less so) ramp decks.

Steel Hellkite is useless with infinite mana and costs to much otherwise.

Shimmer Myr , as afar as I understand, isn't that useful - what would I gain by playing them as flashes? What exactly do you mean by 'removal counters'?

May 26, 2012 6:36 p.m.

Toddington says... #15

There's a little part of me that likes to dream, swinging with a 45(etc.)/5 Hellkite...

I meant removal / counters, cause you can play your Myr EOT, psuedo haste? The lord effect could mess up combat math. Maybe I'm looking at your deck wrong, the version I was basing my opinions off was RW with Tempered Steel. It was more aggro orientated.

May 26, 2012 7:40 p.m.

Glycan says... #16

@Toddington: Oh, I see. Something like that would be fairly useful, but it lowers the minimal win. Also, it doesn't actually give haste, it just makes you need to have the cards out less.

Hellkite can be blocked, destroyed, killed with a Lightning Bolt + Pillar of Flame , whatever.

May 26, 2012 9:57 p.m.

Glycan says... #17

Uh, that last part probably wasn't clear. I mean that it's much harder to deal with a damage-dealing (or card-drawing) sorcery than a amazingly large creature (one that only has Flying, at that. Not Unblockable, nor Hexproof)

May 27, 2012 9:08 a.m.