- 1x Bone Picker
- 4x Gifted Aetherborn
- 2x Odric, Lunarch Marshal
- 1x Oketra the True
- 4x Scrapheap Scrounger
- 3x Selfless Spirit
- 4x Thraben Inspector
- 3x Yahenni, Undying Partisan
- 4x Concealed Courtyard
- 4x Evolving Wilds
- 5x Plains
- 4x Shambling Vent
- 5x Swamp
- 2x Westvale Abbey Flip
fumigates are better in general, more life, and can target more things than dusk/dawn can in terms of the boardwipe function.
April 18, 2017 9:08 p.m.
Well, the fact that most of our creatures don't die to Dusk / Dawn and the 4 CMC make it interesting. However, the real issue I have with the card is that our Scrapheap Scrounger tends to eat up our graveyard, so the Dawn side hardly gets used.
April 21, 2017 4:15 a.m.
V2, sideboard changes
Brought in the 3rd Kambal, Consul of Allocation. He is amazing against control and burn, always want a third against those decks. He is always removed in those matchups, so the legendary rule isn't an issue. Also seeing a lot of zombies, so I added another Scarab Feast (might need more). Took out 2x Forsake the Worldly, still have enough artifact/enchantment hate.
April 22, 2017 12:40 a.m.
Did a rewrite after winning a lot and following the banning of the cat combo.
April 30, 2017 12:54 a.m.
Nice deck, similar to mine. I recently added a few Oketra the True to main board as well, going for Bone Picker over Selfless Spirit. Always Watching pushes my creatures out of a lot of removal range but it's interesting to see how you use Fumigate. +1 from me. I tend to be pretty competitive as well! Check out my Odric deck
April 30, 2017 6:04 p.m.
I have found her unreliable when I tested her. 2 power first strike just wasn't enough to allow me to actually swing with her. Yes, with Odric she is good, but the cards need to be impactful on their own. Thalia is also a 3 drop with first strike, but she can do a great job of stabilizing the board.
Also, it's not really a go-wide deck, it tends to kill off it's own creatures, so the +1/+1s don't last that long. That said, they would work well with the scrapheaps that are swinging in anyway.
Those are my thoughts at least. But hey, I'll try it out. Thank you for the attention!
May 1, 2017 12:41 p.m.
Nice deck! Back when Aether Revolt was the cool new thing I brewed and threw a list up here of a similar BW deck revolved around Odric, Lunarch Marshal. Since then I've updated it for Amonkhet and it's even better. However, I am a large fan of Drana, Liberator of Malakir and Oketra the True. I suppose it's because my deck revolved completely around Odric, where Yahenni, Undying Partisan didn't make the cut. I can post the link here if you're interested!
+1 for similar minded ideas!
May 2, 2017 11:28 a.m.
May 8, 2017 8:13 p.m.
Thanks, Shadow12721, I love the ideas. Actually, I already have considered both of these options. Elusive Tormentor Flip is regrettably easy to exclude. I would LOVE to play it with Odric, but the card just doesn't do anything on it's own. Fundamentally, in order for this deck to work, I have excluded anything that isn't good by itself; Odric is too unreliable, and if his effect is not active, then a card like Elusive Tormentor Flip does too little.
Taking this a step further brings up my latest changes. When playing the list with Oketra the True, she is often the most dead card in my hand. Her best utility is as a 4 mana token generator, which just isn't efficient. If you take away the Odric synergy, then she becomes hard to use. Because of this I looked at other options, including Bontu the Glorified. He is better in combat, because once he is activated, the opponent can't take it away (usually with Oketra, they would use removal on one of the three other creatures and shut off Oketra)).
However, his ability ends up killing off the fodder creatures that we need to drive Yahenni. Also, one other card I have considered is Vampiric Rites. For 3 mana, the card will break even on card advantage, and from that point on can repeatedly generate more card draws (2 mana to bring back a scrounger and 2 to sac it .. again and again). All of that comes at a tempo hit and I'm not sold yet. Currently I'm bouncing between Oketra, Vampiric Rites, and adding Gifted Aetherborn and/or Gonti, Lord of Luxury (have I mentioned I love putting Cartouche on a deathtouch creature?)
May 9, 2017 1:19 a.m.
+1 btw--love this build :)
May 10, 2017 2:13 p.m.
Yes, DanaBarrosReincarnate, I've been trying to fine tune the deck. Bontu the Glorified and Gonti, Lord of Luxury were both really close to making the cut, but a 4th Gifted Aetherborn is just better at getting us though the early game, and beat out Gonti for that reason. Bontu was competing too much with Yahenni for our creature fodder, and just wasn't effective enough. It also competes with Vampiric Rites.
I'm still not sure about the vampiric rites. The one-of copy just hasn't been very relevant in games to date. There are a lot of games where I would not mind drawing at as the game went on, so it is staying for now.
I've added one Grasp of Darkness and taken away a Fatal Push. It seems like a good balance. I don't really want any more low-curve creature removal; those cards are dead in a control matchup, which tends to be our hardest fight.
I've made some changes to the sideboard. Zombies have been tricky, but adding in 3 Trespasser's Curse has been really helpful, also against aggro and drake haven decks. To make room I removed 1 Anguished Unmaking, 1 Fragmentize, and 1 Planar Outburst.
I like Pick the Brain but it just doesn't slow down control enough, which is the main reason to chose it (the fact that we take a card from the opponent's hand is the benefit of this card, while the other options are guaranteed to remove all of the target cards). Instead, I split the sideboard to 2x Lost Legacy and 2x Dispossess.
May 10, 2017 10:59 p.m.
Great deck! My suggestions would be more board wipes such as Dusk / Dawn.
May 11, 2017 12:33 p.m.
Cool deck! Have you considered Hidden Stockpile? Judging by your description, I believe it would fit into your deck better than Vampiric Rites as it replaces your sacrifice fodder and still provides card advantage. On that note, what about Zulaport Cutthroat?
I also think Bontu the Glorified is a better fit than Oketra. As you said above, Oketra is far too easy to turn off where Bontu plays well with the sacrifice theme. I agree that doublestrike is better than menace, but it still makes combat more difficult for your opponents when Odric is in play. Bontu's ability does compete with Yahenni, but she also benefits from it as well. Plus she acts as an additional sac outlet incase Yahenni gets exiled.
How is Forsake the Worldly performing? It seems more like a sideboard card to me.
May 17, 2017 11:14 a.m.
Thanks Hi_diddly_ho_neighbor. I have considered Hidden Stockpile. I worry that it just doesn't do enough and is too slow. In the perfect situation, it will help us grind through a long creature based back and forth, but we do alright in that match anyway. When we are trying to beat control or aggro, it just does too little. Just my thoughts.
I really like Bontu the Glorified and Zulaport Cutthroat in an aristocrats deck. Fun to play, but they need lots of creatures to sac. MTG Goldfish just posted a version a few days ago as an example. The deck benefits from token generators like Doomed Dissenter or Sacred Cat. We just don't have room for all that in this deck.
Forsake the Worldly is great in my mainboard, but entirely because cycle gets it out when its not needed. The meta has enough targets that are disrupted by this to make it useful. I have found it helpful very often, and am kinda surprised I don't see it more. Cycle is really really good.
Thanks for the suggestions!
May 18, 2017 10:19 a.m.
Hi all, I just wanted to update that I am working on the control package. There are many good options, and the right pick is probably variable for your meta and budget. Options include Fatal Push, Declaration in Stone, Forsake the Worldly, Anguished Unmaking, Cast Out, Grasp of Darkness, Ruinous Path, To the Slaughter, Transgress the Mind, Lay Bare the Heart, Unburden, Dispossess, Lost Legacy, Pick the Brain, and probably some others I'm forgetting.
May 26, 2017 5:57 p.m.
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