Kuldotha Red

crazyshark150 Score: 3


name says it all... + 1 if you like the deck, comment if you can think of any changes for the better.

Had the most awesome play with this deck at FNM last week.Turn 1- Kuldotha Rebirth Turn 2- top decked a Goblin Guide , played that one in addition to the one i already had in my hand.Turn 3- Top Decked a Goblin Chieftain , played it and swung for the win

Sempifi99 says... #1

I like the deck, Kiln Fiend + Assault Strobe is always good, it works pretty good for being a budget red deck. Though with the cost of 2x Koth of the Hammer = $70+ I would think it would be better invested in Plated Geopede and some fetch lands or maybe Kargan Dragonlord . Also with all those goblins maybe Goblin Chieftain could serve you well. Also you could probably do better than Galvanic Blast considering you could never use metal craft for it, perhaps Fling . Then you could launch a powered up kiln fiend for the win after he swings hard on turn 3, fling also gives him +3 before he is sacrificed too.

October 29, 2010 2:15 a.m.

crazyshark150 says... #2

I have Koth of the Hammer in here because i was lucky enough to open them in a pack. And i would love to put in Kargan Dragonlord but he is vary hard to find...Fling could help and i may replace Galvanic Blast with it i just put in the blast as another one drop burn to boost Kiln Fiend . Im still deciding if i like the Ember Hauler or not and i may replace him with Plated Geopede

October 29, 2010 2:22 p.m.

mrtimva says... #3

Part of the casting cost of fling is sacrificing the creature, so kiln fiend does not receive the pump before you have to sacrifice it.

October 29, 2010 6:14 p.m.

Sempifi99 says... #4

Ah, true so it wouldn't be pumped. Still I think it could be a good option, as you could cast it in response to a burn spell targeting Kiln Fiend prior to his attack going off.

October 30, 2010 12:06 a.m.

mrtimva says... #5

i agree i run both fling and kiln fiend

October 30, 2010 1:05 a.m.

blakfishy says... #6

take out the 2 chandras for 2 fling

October 31, 2010 6:25 p.m.

crazyshark150 says... #7

fling is not that good. it does not boost kiln fiend and uses up two mana that i could be using for more useful spells that deal damage and boost kiln fiend. Based on playing this deck chandras are much better for the late game since RDW does not always win as fast as it should.

October 31, 2010 8:22 p.m.

Slayerfan231 says... #8

Actually Fling does boost Kiln Fiend . But if you put in Fling for 1 card it's not worth it.

November 2, 2010 9:48 a.m.

Slayerfan231 says... #9

And you should run Pyroclasm sideboard.

November 2, 2010 9:50 a.m.

Slayerfan231 says... #10

Misread Fling . My bad. With the original Fling , Kiln Fiend would have gotten the boost.

November 2, 2010 10:02 a.m.

Sempifi99 says... #11

@slayerfan231 I disagree with Pyroclasm being a good choice on the sideboard as most of his creatures would be killed by it also. I would think Fireball is a stronger choice as it is directed and can be super pumped ftw with koth.

November 2, 2010 5:33 p.m.

crazyshark150 says... #12

Comet Storm would be a better choice in my opinion since i can target multiple creatures and do the same amount on damage to each instead of dividing it equally among multiple targets

November 2, 2010 7:24 p.m.

Sempifi99 says... #13

That would be good too I think, it would work well against multiple creatures, especially with all the token decks that seem to be going around now, good call. I agree that Comet Storm would be a better choice.

November 2, 2010 9:07 p.m.

Sempifi99 says... #14

Also I think adding 2x Valakut, the Molten Pinnacle could help you out. Adding two would have little chance of slowing your game down and besides doing late game damage they will also help to power up card:Chandra's Spitfire

November 2, 2010 9:14 p.m.

Sempifi99 says... #15

Just out of curiosity how was Silence misplayed?

November 2, 2010 9:15 p.m.

crazyshark150 says... #16

molten pinnacle would be a good idea i didnt think about that. the person was using silence kinda like a cancel by using it in response to an instant and then saying it stops whatever instant had been cast

November 2, 2010 9:19 p.m.

Sempifi99 says... #17

Ah, yes that would be misplaying it. I could understand the confusion tho.

November 2, 2010 9:22 p.m.

crazyshark150 says... #18

yeah it pissed a couple people off when they found out

November 2, 2010 9:36 p.m.

Sempifi99 says... #19

The ruling when like this if i'm not mistaken, the first spell to which he responded to with Silence was already cast and Silence doesn't prevent it from resolving so it still resolves.

November 2, 2010 9:42 p.m.

Sempifi99 says... #20

Check out my red deck and let me know what you think red-deck-wins-11-1

November 2, 2010 10:19 p.m.

jessetaverne says... #21

this deck wins for sure

November 3, 2010 2:09 p.m.

crazyshark150 says... #22

lol. thanks

November 3, 2010 2:20 p.m.

Deco_y says... #23

That Silence BS sucks, sorry to hear that, but this deck is pretty boss.

Fling works best with Act of Treason and Mark of Mutiny but those won't fit in your deck, so I agree with keeping Fling out. Put in something else IMO. Try a Reverberate or Chandra Ablaze . Ablaze may not fit your curve, but with burning spells her ultimate is a undisputed win condition. Drawing the cards would help too if you run out of burn spells or if you need that 1 more spell.

November 7, 2010 1:31 a.m.

crazyshark150 says... #24

I would like to put reverberate in instead of searing blaze but i haven't been able to find them or trade for them. As for chandra i tried her out and by the time i could play her i didn't have a hand and its usually hard for me to get up to six mana

November 7, 2010 8:24 a.m.

crazyshark150 says... #25

Im thinking about taking out card:Chandra's Spitfire and putting in two Temple Bell And two Searing Blaze . let me know what you think

November 7, 2010 1:17 p.m.

Sempifi99 says... #26

card:Chandra's Spitfire will deffinetly be helpful as it can powerup at the same time as Kiln Fiend so you could hit for a bit more, plus her toughness is more than burst lightning or galvonic blast so that's good. I think she is a good addition. Also she could combo with her planeswalker too for the long game. Searing Blaze would also be a good choice too. I don't know about Temple Bell though, do you really want your opponent drawing an extra card too?

November 7, 2010 1:32 p.m.

crazyshark150 says... #27

oops i meant to say taking out the Arc Trail i dont know what i was thinking when i typed that. my problem with searing blaze is that i can only play it if the opponent has a creature and my thought behind temple bell was they may draw another card but it will allow me to draw more burn spells...i realize them drawing is bad but i cant think of anything else that would let me draw cards

November 7, 2010 3:19 p.m.

Sempifi99 says... #28

Also with Arc Trail the opponent would have to have a creature, because it says to "another" target creature or player, which if I am not mistaken would mean that you could not do both damages to the player. If your concern is that your opponent does not have a creature on the board I would recommend using Forked Bolt instead.

As for Temple Bell , there really is no red card that lets you draw cards however I can not think of a benefit to having your opponent and you draw a card at the same time. There would be very few times where the extra card draw would allow for a win condition to where if you were to draw your extra card instead of Temple Bell it would not be the same. For that reason I am thinking you ought to go for something else instead of Temple Bell .

November 7, 2010 9:17 p.m.

crazyshark150 says... #29

thats a good point for the temple bell...youre right about the arc trail having to target to different things but i can always target myself for one dmg to do two dmg to them if it comes to it

November 7, 2010 10:10 p.m.

jessetaverne says... #30

How are the chimeric masses working for ya? I can imagine they dont do much... I know theyre saccing fodder, but would you not swap out one for a mox opal, you know, for when you're feeling lucky? :)

December 21, 2010 11:27 p.m.

shamanicgreen says... #31

Panic Spellbomb would work really well if you needed a little card, sac it for rebirth, then pay an extra R to draw a card.

December 22, 2010 12:10 a.m.

Sempifi99 says... #32

I wouldn't discount the chimeric masses, I could imagine proving really useful against control decks since they are not creatures most of the time they could prove nice late game wins if pumped with koth when played.

December 22, 2010 12:42 a.m.

crazyshark150 says... #33

@jessetaverne i personally like the chimeric masses. they are really good for when im running out of options and i can drop it with 3 or 4 counters to use as a beater. As for the panic spellbombs they might not be a bad idea but i dont no what i would take out for them

December 22, 2010 12:50 a.m.

Slayerfan231 says... #34

Needs....Wait for it.... jace, the mind sculptor.

December 25, 2010 11:44 a.m.

Slayerfan231 says... #35

But on a serious note I do agree with Mox Opal . Makes this deck so much faster.

December 25, 2010 11:45 a.m.

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