- 4x Aether Hub
- 4x Blooming Marsh
- 3x Evolving Wilds
- 3x Forest
- 4x Hissing Quagmire
- 2x Mountain
- 1x Swamp
- 4x Greenbelt Rampager
- 3x Rhonas the Indomitable
- 4x Scrapheap Scrounger
- 3x Tireless Tracker
- 4x Verdurous Gearhulk
- 4x Voltaic Brawler
8 Ways to fetch basics, but only 6 basics. I would cut an Evolving wild and add an other basic.
BTW. I run a Jund Midrange. Jund is great in the current standard
April 13, 2017 1 p.m.
jwal1983 thanks for the input! I may make that change. I think if I draw all 4 evolving wilds and 2 attunes, or 3+ attunes im losing the game anyways. but ill do the maths and see how often that happens. I totally see what u mean tho, thanks!
April 13, 2017 1:05 p.m.
I like it, very well made with my "playtesting"(Playtest feature against some decks already in standard) Gonna say I may just put Bontu the Glorified in here just because she is my favorite god and for the meme.
April 13, 2017 5:04 p.m.
How much better did Jund get with Rhonas? Words can't even say. Cant wait for FNM.
April 19, 2017 8:30 a.m.
April 19, 2017 8:43 a.m.
The creature base is kind of weird. You have Rhonas that requires a power 4+ creature to attack/block but don't have a single creature with that much native attack power.
The only way you can make Rhonas attack/block is by having a crewed Heart, have a Tireless Tracker in play with +1+1 counters, use the 3CMC ability on Rhonas or play Verdurous Gearhulk on turn 5+. Doesn't seem right. It's more hoops to jump through than I personally would want in a creature deck like this. I don't want to pay 3CMC to buff a creature, only to have it get removed and I then still can't attack/block with Rhonas if you know what I mean. Seems too narrow. Why not have Bristling Hydra at least in the main so that you have a 4 power creature that can also protect itself.
April 19, 2017 12:02 p.m.
Noctem Here is what I do. If you do not have a gearhulk/kiran/tracker+1, use his ability main-phase on any creature. Now he is a creature too.
Also, many times you do not play him turn 3 because you need to start playing your removal spells. He's just as good later as he is turn 3 because they might be unprepared to deal with him by then.
April 19, 2017 12:33 p.m.
Yes but the opponent can simply respond to your activation and kill the creature you're targeting. So now you spent 3 mana and got nothing. You can't even attack with Rhonas. Even if you move into combat phase, the opponent can still respond this way and stop you from attacking or defending. So it's not as great as seem to think imo.
April 19, 2017 12:56 p.m.
April 20, 2017 12:31 a.m.
As was said, I've been playtesting and Rhonas the Indomitable is not easy enough to put online.
Most of your strategies require at least two steps to achieve this.
The beauty of Mardu Vehicles is that just about every Creature in that deck could Crew Heart of Kiran.
You need a similar strategy with Rhonas the Indomitable.
This is not a Tier 1 deck. Not yet.
I would take that out of the title for now. It has not been earned.
April 20, 2017 1:33 a.m.
Would you have a problem with me linking to your deck in my Sideboard notes?
It might end up driving some extra traffic your way, but will also tell people how to Board against you.
April 20, 2017 9:26 a.m.
Argeaux You make all valid points. Knowing the limitations of the problem however gives us the power to play around that. While I considered Lambholt Pacifist Flip , Greenwheel Liberator , and even Lupine Prototype, I found that these cards are just weak if I did not draw a Rhonas. Playing 4 Rhonas means you draw multiples pretty often... To get around this I play a good deck on its own, and let 3x Rhonas increase its finishing power / evade removal. This means I do NOT play rhonas turn 3. He is most effective turn 5! :) That way you have killed some/all of their threats, you untap, and even if you are empty handed pump/pump (preferably 2 diff. dudes) and win.
In summary I understand your concern, I think it is simply a deck-builing and play-style preference. I do not use Rhonas turn 3 unless there is nothing else to do. In that case, I will do everything I can >> Heart/trackerclue/pump to make him a creature if i need to.
You always have great criticisms and are consistent with your knowledge, up-to-date meta sense. Thank you!
April 20, 2017 9:42 a.m.
I've been playtesting this for a bit on XMage, and I will say I've almost constantly been Sideboarding (believe it or not) Scrapheap scrounger for Kalitas/Hydra(with some Fatal Push for creature heavy decks) Rhonas I have found somewhat not too difficult to turn on, and I believe Lambholt Pacifist Flip would work magnificently with this deck
April 20, 2017 8:25 p.m.
I've got those in the decks I'm planning to run during AHK.
Apparently getting Rhonas online is not the goal of this deck.
I don't really know why. It's a bit of a game changer.
April 20, 2017 8:38 p.m.
Yeah no one is running them against me. Its weird if you ask me. But I have seen rhonas played a lot on there around a similar strat.
April 20, 2017 10:51 p.m.
So much lovely removal, have you thought about Goblin Dark-Dwellers so you can do it all over again? Also another enabler.
April 21, 2017 8:22 p.m.
You can activate Rhonas with Lupine Prototype Fairly easily
April 22, 2017 10:37 p.m.
April 23, 2017 7:32 a.m.
You don't cast the creature you put into play via champion to be clear. But ETB triggers will go off.
April 23, 2017 7:37 a.m.
I've been play testing this against Watching Glory, which is another archetype I predict will emerge in standard.
April 28, 2017 6:38 p.m.
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|Top rank||#5 on 2017-04-28|