Instant (25)
- 1x Arcane Denial
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1x
Blue Sun's Zenith
- 1x Brainstorm
- 1x Counterspell
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1x
Cryptic Command
- 1x Cyclonic Rift
- 1x Daze
- 1x Delay
- 1x Dispel
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1x
Echoing Truth
- 1x Evacuation
- 1x Fact or Fiction
- 1x Force of Will
- 1x Hinder
- 1x Mana Drain
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1x
Mana Leak
- 1x Misdirection
- 1x Mystical Tutor
- 1x Pact of Negation
- 1x Pongify
- 1x Rapid Hybridization
- 1x Remand
- 1x Spell Snare
- 1x Stifle
- 1x Swan Song
Creature (7)
Artifact (17)
- 1x Basalt Monolith
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1x
Everflowing Chalice
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1x
Expedition Map
- 1x Fellwar Stone
- 1x Grim Monolith
- 1x Mana Crypt
- 1x Mana Vault
- 1x Mind Stone
- 1x Mox Opal
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1x
Pithing Needle
- 1x Rings of Brighthearth
- 1x Scroll Rack
- 1x Sensei's Divining Top
- 1x Sol Ring
- 1x Thran Dynamo
- 1x Voltaic Key
- 1x Worn Powerstone
Sorcery (11)
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1x
All Is Dust
- 1x Bribery
- 1x Capture of Jingzhou
- 1x Curse of the Swine
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1x
Fabricate
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1x
Gitaxian Probe
- 1x Merchant Scroll
- 1x Temporal Manipulation
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1x
Temporal Mastery
- 1x Timetwister
- 1x Windfall
Planeswalker (3)
Commander
Sideboard (10)
- 1x Daze
- 1x Declaration of Naught
- 1x Dissipate
- 1x Flusterstorm
- 1x Gilded Drake
- 1x Intuition
- 1x Muddle the Mixture
- 1x Relic of Progenitus
- 1x Tormod's Crypt
- 1x Trickbind
Land (35)
- 1x Ancient Tomb
- 1x Cavern of Souls
- 1x Flooded Strand
- 1x Homeward Path
- 1x Misty Rainforest
- 1x Polluted Delta
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1x
Reliquary Tower
- 1x Scalding Tarn
- 25x Snow-Covered Island
- 1x Strip Mine
- 1x Wasteland
Enchantment (2)
Maybeboard (1)
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Femme_Fatale says... #23
May I ask what is with your illegal cards list? It shows ... practically your whole deck in there.
September 27, 2013 12:07 a.m.
MTG_Player says... #24
@Femme_Fatale: I replaced the standard deck with this edh decklist and I believe it still thinks the format is standard, instead of edh. But there are no illegal cards in this list.
September 27, 2013 12:22 a.m.
Femme_Fatale says... #25
Oh, I see now. Allows you to ramp up the score on your deck ... cheating for points are we?
September 27, 2013 12:28 a.m.
Lol I was wondering why i was having a hard time remember this deck list. I like it though. can't really make any suggestions.
September 27, 2013 1:01 a.m.
MTG_Player says... #27
@Femme_Fatale: You've figured me out! oh no is that the sarcastic siren of the non-extant tappedout police? Lol, yeah pretty much. I'm trying to have this deck surpass Epoch's as most-liked EDH deck, would you like to contribute to the cause?
@Nobilior: Thanks, don't forget to like it so you recieve notifications and such, I'm trying to have this deck surpass Epoch's as most-liked EDH deck.
Thanks guys. * or should I say guy and fatal female
September 27, 2013 1:26 a.m.
Femme_Fatale says... #28
What makes you think I'm fatal?
eyes you innocently
September 27, 2013 1:41 a.m.
megawurmple says... #29
I wish I could help, but I don't play EDH and I have no idea how to build an EDH deck.
September 27, 2013 2:39 a.m.
MiniDragon says... #30
Better ramp for mono decks are Gauntlet of Power , Extraplanar Lens , and Caged Sun . Fellwar Stone doesn't do you any good since it will only produce either blue or colorless mana. Other options for ramp are Mana Vault and Gilded Lotus . There is Temple of the False God instead of Ancient Tomb . I would run more Island instead of the search lands, and you could use Journeyer's Kite . Just my preference. Tolaria West can transmute for Pact of Negation or another land. Academy Ruins is good to get artifacts back. Good draw card creatures for blue are Arcanis the Omnipotent and Sphinx of Magosi . Other good blue creatures are Fatespinner , Grand Architect , Kira, Great Glass-Spinner , Lighthouse Chronologist , and Stormtide Leviathan . Since you have Bribery there is Acquire . For extra turns Beacon of Tomorrows , Time Stretch , and Time Warp . For hand renewal there is Time Spiral . Also Twincast is very good. Hinder and Desertion for counters.
Yes that's a lot but it's all just suggestion. All to user preference on a build really.
September 27, 2013 3:40 a.m.
I believe it is because the last part of your user name say Fatale maybe?
Btw, what did this deck used to be? lol
And as for a serious comment, how well does Force Spike do? it doesn't seem that good of an EDH card to me.
September 27, 2013 5:33 p.m.
MTG_Player says... #33
@Femme_Fatale: see your username, (as Nobilior said)
@MiniDragon: I avoid the mana rocks because everyone plays blue in competitive EDH, so it helps them too, Fellwar Stone is good for ramp, I need to hit my land drop each turn so Temple of the False God is too inconsistent before turn 6, fetchlands are good because they combo with Rings of Brighthearth I am avoiding Tolaria West because it is too slow, coming into play tapped, teh 6 mana draw creatures are too expensive, the other creatures are too niche, Acquire is a situational Gilded Lotus , the other cards are too expensive (mana-cost wise), Time Spiral might be good, I'll think about it.
@Nobilior: Force Spike is good for countering early commander spells, or anything, because having one U up means the opponent will not expect anything. This deck used to be Blood Artist
@phatpatdargonmaster51: Tunnel Vision has a mini-combo with Hinder but that is too inconsistent, otherwise it is a very poor Worldly Tutor for 6 mana.
Thanks for the critique!!
September 29, 2013 3:03 p.m.
Femme_Fatale says... #34
@ Nobilior
I was being sarcastic, surely the eyes you innocently part gave you a bit of a hint did it not?
September 29, 2013 7:08 p.m.
I've been out of it for a few day. lol
Right on then! Its just seemed like it was to situational.
September 29, 2013 7:23 p.m.
MTG_Player, looks like now you have to compete with Swamps for most upvoted EDH...
October 2, 2013 5:42 p.m.
180lbbagofsugar says... #37
The only thing I can see that this deck is missing is a static way to play at instant speeds. Somthing like Leyline of Anticipation or Vedalken Orrery gives you a chance to maximixe turns.
October 4, 2013 5:49 a.m.
180lbbagofsugar says... #38
Also adding a Treasure Mage would give you another way to fetch out Rings of Brighthearth since most of the combos require it.
October 4, 2013 5:58 a.m.
phatpatdargonmaster51 says... #40
hey @mtg_player could you look at my mono red edh ?
October 9, 2013 4:09 p.m.
BirkaBirkowski says... #41
Isochron Scepter seems like it could do some good here, what with all the low-cost counters, i.e. Counterspell , Mana Leak , Swan Song , Delay ...
October 11, 2013 5:22 p.m.
Just a correction on the description... Mind Twist is black. you must've meant Timetwister or something.
One suggestion I can think of Mirrorworks Instead of probably Phyrexian Metamorph . With Rings of Brighthearth , you can produce 3x more artifacts.
October 12, 2013 9:04 p.m.
TheLouie57 says... #43
Mind Twist was his way of describing the opponent-crippling power inside Jin-Gitaxias, Core Augur
October 13, 2013 3:28 p.m.
TheLouie57 says... #44
Tolaria West is too good in this deck not to consider. It may quote "come into play tapped" but who is going to use tolaria west as a land? It transmutes all the goodies in your deck, it finds those land-based answers you built into your deck that won't normally work reliably against specific matchups considering you have to clarify the odds of seeing a deck that runs a specific card, then further proceed to draw the card you do need during that particular game. Tolaria West = any answer you need at the time, including a timely Pact of Negation , situation suiting. Plus the targets Everflowing Chalice (an infinite combo piece, Mana Vault , and Mox Opal are extremely relevant to the playstyle of the deck. In short, Tolaria West is another Expedition Map that does it's job just as well as the land-digging artifact itself and so much more. So why not run it?
October 13, 2013 3:40 p.m.
Ah, gotcha. I was the drawing ability left too much of a deep impression to me that I forgot all about the hand size ability of Jin. =.=
October 13, 2013 8:29 p.m.
TheLouie57 says... #46
Lol yeah a free Forced Fruition every turn can make a combo deck work pretty well sometimes...
October 14, 2013 8:55 a.m.
Did you ever consider putting one of the Eldrazi gods with all the mana you have? Kozilek, Butcher of Truth is great because of hand accel(which you don't necessarily need), and he's a 12/12 with annihilator 4. Or maybe even Ulamog, the Infinite Gyre because he can remove Iona, Shield of Emeria or other issues you have, and is an indestructible 10/10.
Also, once you get Jin out, how do you keep him alive. The issue I have is that once I put him out he is an immediate target, and I know there are only so many counterspells in your deck to protect him. Maybe a Lightning Greaves , Swiftfoot Boots , and/or Darksteel Plate to help him stay alive.
Also, another great card to add in would be Land Equilibrium . You can play the majority of your cards with 3 islands out at most, plus you have all the mana rocks to boot. This could protect you against high cost commanders and such.
One more thing (I promise): While you can bribery it, Blightsteel Colossus is an awesome card that goes well together with your mana ramp. Any creature that it blocks or gets block by is usually dead, and if there are no blockers it's gg for them.
Oh and the eldrazi are also a great win con.
October 21, 2013 8:06 p.m.
Ohthenoises says... #49
You have Notion Thief listed as a card that beats you. Simply playing Consecrated Sphinx and then either playing a cantrip or passing turn will allow you to kill the owner of notion thief via mill in one shot.
October 29, 2013 7:33 p.m.
Ever considered using Erayo, Soratami Ascendant /Erayo's Essence with this? Its pretty vile when use with Jin-Gitaxias, Core Augur since he forces your opponent to top-deck unless they have something to give them no max hand size...Erayo's Essence would counter whatever they may happen to draw unless its a land correct?
October 31, 2013 12:33 a.m.
thelastbrujah says... #51
I like the deck name. It's a very competitive list, and nice job with the run-down, although I do think there are stronger ones in competitive EDH. If this deck is truly undefeated... I think you need to find more competitive opponents. No deck goes undefeated for very long in a truly competitive environment.
November 1, 2013 9:01 p.m.
lovethemagic says... #52
+1 from me, but thelastbrujah is right, so don't expect to win that easy
November 24, 2013 10:06 a.m.
I think my deck could perhaps defeat this deck
deck-large:teneb-combo-harvester-competitive-edh
November 24, 2013 2:13 p.m.
Also according to the French banlist which is sometimes used in high-level competitive, 1v1 EDH - Back to Basics is banned, along with Mana Vault and Mana Crypt
November 24, 2013 2:50 p.m.
ChiefBell - I believe this was made for multiplayer competitive decks not 1v1.
November 25, 2013 3:18 a.m.
I just pointed it out because there was talk of us doing a 1v1.
November 25, 2013 4:21 a.m.
Jace, the Mind Sculptor + Rings of Brighthearth isn't an "evolution engine" because adding loyalty counters is the COST not effect. Rings does not copy the COST.
Just figured I'd point that out...
December 23, 2013 10:52 p.m.
PlattBonnay says... #61
why bother with snow lands if you aren't running mana doublers like Extraplanar Lens and Gauntlet of Power ?
January 10, 2014 10:02 a.m.
Fleetwood-Mat says... #63
I think you should consider using a different commander, put Jin-Gitaxias in your deck, and also put Proteus Staff, I had a 6 player FFA become a 5-on-1 because of that little trick. I used Thada Adel, Acquisitor as my commander.
December 9, 2014 5:34 p.m.
Podkomorka says... #64
When I read "undefeated" I automatically assume your playgroup/meta is just on the competitive side of casual and not a bunch of top tier commanders. That would explain why a Jin deck is undefeated lol
February 17, 2016 9:29 p.m.
ickyickywickywicky says... #65
Troll in the dungeon! The here's a troll in the dungeon!....thought you'd all like to know.
February 18, 2016 10:58 a.m.
how do you stop yourself from accidentally milling yourself?
March 12, 2016 2:21 a.m.
captaincarrion says... #68
I like this list. I run a slightly less competitive Jin-Gitaxias list, but I'm curious as to why you're not running Laboratory Maniac? It's low enough on the curve, and it's an alternative where you can one-shot deck yourself and just win
April 11, 2016 8:37 a.m.
DarkEagleX says... #69
seconding what captaincarrion has said, Laboratory Maniac is a brilliant card as a backup.
Checkout the Win-cons in my mono-blue to see it's uses; Patron of the Mill
April 28, 2016 9:45 p.m.
ehohenthal says... #70
caged sun only helps you. definitely use caged sun.....
August 7, 2016 12:54 a.m.
Either you exclusively play against literal toddlers or your deck is not undefeated.
September 14, 2016 11:56 p.m.
Scour from existence Or spine of ishnah will take care of Iona and akroma
May 24, 2017 7:45 p.m.
Podkomorka says... #75
If it's still undefeated it's being played in the wrong meta
May 30, 2017 4:29 p.m.
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September 26, 2013 11:24 p.m.